Sasuke's Imperfect Susanoo [which now has legs] is thanks to Naruto's Chakra!!

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Don't understand how Naruto helped him 'unlock' imperfect susanoo. Sasuke unlocked his susano during the kage summit and developed V1, 2 and 3 on his own. For now it looks like he needs Naruto helps to form this version and if thats the case than that means that he should not be able to use this version again. SA can't do the stuff they were doing without Naruto chakra, it makes no sense that Sasuke would be able to use this version if he really needs Naruto chakra..
If Sasuke uses imperfect Susanoo without the cloak than will prove that he didn't needed it in the first place.
 

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Looool

If and When I'll make one you'll know what hate thread is.

looooool well you're hating on Sasuke all the time, so pretty much every thread I guess looooooool
 

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Don't understand how Naruto helped him 'unlock' imperfect susanoo. Sasuke unlocked his susano during the kage summit and developed V1, 2 and 3 on his own. For now it looks like he needs Naruto helps to form this version and if thats the case than that means that he should not be able to use this version again. SA can't do the stuff they were doing without Naruto chakra, it makes no sense that Sasuke would be able to use this version if he really needs Naruto chakra..
If Sasuke uses imperfect Susanoo without the cloak than will prove that he didn't needed it in the first place.

Sasuke didn't have enough chakra to activate it before, yes even in life threatening situations U_U Now that he got a power-up thanks to Narito's cloak he unlocked/activated it. Once he's got control over that Susanoo he can re-summon it w/out the cloak.
 

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looooool well you're hating on Sasuke all the time, so pretty much every thread I guess looooooool

Oh really? So what're you gonna do about it?
 

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Sasuke didn't have enough chakra to activate it before, yes even in life threatening situations U_U Now that he got a power-up thanks to Narito's cloak he unlocked/activated it. Once he's got control over that Susanoo he can re-summon it w/out the cloak.

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Sasuke didn't have enough chakra to activate it before, yes even in life threatening situations U_U Now that he got a power-up thanks to Narito's cloak he unlocked/activated it. Once he's got control over that Susanoo he can re-summon it w/out the cloak.
So you telling me that Sasuke doesnt have enough chakra to do this version without Naruto help but that he will somehow have enough chakra to do this without Naruto helps ones the cloak is gone. Come now.

That is false and you know that, hell Kiba was begging Naruto to give him some chakra for the second time because he wanted to do a jutsu he did before with the cloak. To bad I can't look up for panel now but it will be the first thing I do tomorrow :p

For now it looks like Sasuke needs extra chakra for this but as soon as he does this without the cloak it will be proven that he didnt need it in the first place.
 

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So you telling me that Sasuke doesnt have enough chakra to do this version without Naruto help but that he will somehow have enough chakra to do this without Naruto helps ones the cloak is gone. Come now.

That is false and you know that, hell Kiba was begging Naruto to give him some chakra for the second time because he wanted to do a jutsu he did before with the cloak. To bad I can't look up for panel now but it will be the first thing I do tomorrow :p

For now it looks like Sasuke needs extra chakra for this but as soon as he does this without the cloak it will be proven that he didnt need it in the first place.

Its a doujutsu, that's how it works! Like how he went from 2-tomoe to 3-tomoe. Or like how Tobi pushed him to further hone his Doryoku!

Now that he's activated it, he can do it again U_U
 

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So you telling me that Sasuke doesnt have enough chakra to do this version without Naruto help but that he will somehow have enough chakra to do this without Naruto helps ones the cloak is gone. Come now.

That is false and you know that, hell Kiba was begging Naruto to give him some chakra for the second time because he wanted to do a jutsu he did before with the cloak. To bad I can't look up for panel now but it will be the first thing I do tomorrow :p

For now it looks like Sasuke needs extra chakra for this but as soon as he does this without the cloak it will be proven that he didnt need it in the first place.

Its more like the 9 tails chakra acts as a trigger, once he has used the 9 tails chakra the EMS awakens this power.

We never saw Madara actually using PS until the Valley of the End where he had the 9 tails.
 

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Its more like the 9 tails chakra acts as a trigger, once he has used the 9 tails chakra the EMS awakens this power.

We never saw Madara actually using PS until the Valley of the End where he had the 9 tails.

Madara's PS and kyuubi have nothing to do with each other.

EMS Madara don't have the ability to absorb kyuubi chakra and he didn't have any kind of kyuubi cloak around him either.
madara awakened PS on his own and kyuubi was there just to help him beat hashirama.

You have showed us that you don't even know what it means to be a jinchuriki and what are benefits of being one.
 

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Sasuke has been using the lower version of Susanoo for awhile now even though he could have used the higher versions. Now he uses the higher version and its because Naruto gave him 9 tails chakara? He also gave this chakara to Hashirama. Sasuke was foreshadowed to be able to use a full body Susanoo thanks to Madara.
 

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Sasuke has been using the lower version of Susanoo for awhile now even though he could have used the higher versions. Now he uses the higher version and its because Naruto gave him 9 tails chakara? He also gave this chakara to Hashirama. Sasuke was foreshadowed to be able to use a full body Susanoo thanks to Madara.

His Susanoo never had a full body until after he got the 9 tails chakra cloak. His full Susanoo was shown when he got EMS and it didn't have legs.

Madara had the 9 tails once too, so maybe that's how he evolved his Susanoo.
 

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It is conjecture to assert that Naruto's chakra can alter the properties of the Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan, for you are employing inductive reasoning so as to ascertain this; however, we know that inductive reasoning is inherently erroneous, as you are assuming that a sequence of events that have previously occurred will occur in a similar fashion.

Furthermore, it is also possible you are erroneously correlating variables; Sasuke has yet to show the full ability of his recently acquired Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan, consequently he may have simply augmented his Susano'o relative to the Shinju's fearsome abilities.

Something of note, I am not against the notion that Sasuke's Susano'o was augmented by Naruto's chakra, in fact I care little about either character's respective power, but it is manifest to me you may be treading in mistaken grounds.​
 

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Read what I said carefully. Sasuke this entire fight has never used his Susanno to its full potential. Even after he got the the EMS when he fought Kabuto he never used it to its full potential. People look too much into the 9 tails chakara and that being the reason why his Susanoo has a full body now. This entire fight with Obito he never used his Susanoo to its full potential even when he used his Suasnoo to protect Naruto. He kept using the version 2 Susanoo instead of using the final Susanoo which is the 2nd strongest version and he has shown to have it. Obito clearly states that Susanoo levels depends on how you control your chakara. This would explain why Madara was able to wrap his Susanoo around the 9 tails in the first place because he knows how to manipulate his chakara well enough. Also the fact that Madara had to put more control over his chakara to shape and form it into the Perfect Susanoo backs up what Obito stated. Its all about chakara control.
 

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If Naruto's chakra was affecting it, the shape and color of the Susano'o should change. Which other than the addition of a full body, it hasn't. Also, Susano'o is made up almost entirely of Yin energy as Shii stated that it's formed using the same chakra that Sasuke used to put him in a genjutsu, and genjutsu chakra is a Yin based chakra, as Naruto's chakra is made up almost entirely of Yang energy it shouldn't have much of an effect, if any. Minato's chakra mixed in would actually be a bigger factor, as it's made up of Yin energy.

Not sure really, if it had affected his Susano'o, it's shape should be altered, as after having Juugo's chakra infused with his body, Sasuke's Susano'o appears similar to Juugo's Sage Transformation, but I haven't seen any such affect upon it currently. Still, can't really claim it either way until the manga gives us an explanation. But I will say that it's more likely that Minato's chakra is what caused it rather than Naruto's.
 
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sigh

You also said that Naruto clones can't get BM or talk to Kurama U_U

I meant that his clones couldn't do it while he did it, and the manga hasn't proven me wrong on that now has it? The rest, I never said. Ever.

I'm just saying you shouldn't jump to conclusions about why Susanoo looks like this when there is a possibility that the cloak and EMS caused this to happen, but you can believe whatever you want.
 

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I meant that his clones couldn't do it while he did it, and the manga hasn't proven me wrong on that now has it? The rest, I never said. Ever.

I'm just saying you shouldn't jump to conclusions about why Susanoo looks like this when there is a possibility that the cloak and EMS caused this to happen, but you can believe whatever you want.

I doubt the cloak had anything to do with it. As I explained in my earlier post and also to add, Susanoo is "yang release" meaning Susanoo is "dark chakara". The cloak is "Yin/Light" chakara. Do you see the conflict in this? That is the direct differences of the Senju and Uchiha. If that was the case then Hashirama powers would have given Madara's Sharigan powers an amazing boost. But as you could see it hasn't. In Sasuke's case it just shield him from being hurt. Unless he uses other elemental powers such as fire or lightning then you would see a difference. But the Sharigan chakara is Yin release.
 
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