Sasuke's Enton

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Are you retarded? Reread what I posted. If what you're saying is true, then how come Madara was able to only use Kamui after taking Obito's eye? How come Itachi loses his light when using Izanami? How come Sasuke eye's bleed when he uses Amateratsu? The only feat of a dojutsu being used without eyes is Sussano

You're the retarded one because you ignored everything I said.


Madara was able to use Kamui because Obito's eye has Obito's chakra, just like Shiusi's eye has Shisui's chakra. The chakra in the eye is what gives the user dojutsu techniques and that chakra is produced by the original user's brain.

Because the brain is what produces Sharingan chakra the user can still use their dojutsu without the eyes, Itachi was still able to use Susanoo when his eyes went blind and Madara was able to use Susanoo without a Sharingan.

With one missing eye Sasuke can't use Amaterasu on targets but he can still generate a flame and use his right eye for Enton. Because his brain produces the chakra for DMS which is responsible for giving his eyes DMS feats
 

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You're the retarded one because you ignored everything I said.


Madara was able to use Kamui because Obito's eye has Obito's chakra, just like Shiusi's eye has Shisui's chakra. The chakra in the eye is what gives the user dojutsu techniques and that chakra is produced by the original user's brain.

Because the brain is what produces Sharingan chakra the user can still use their dojutsu without the eyes, Itachi was still able to use Susanoo when his eyes went blind and Madara was able to use Susanoo without a Sharingan.

With one missing eye Sasuke can't use Amaterasu on targets but he can still generate a flame and use his right eye for Enton. Because his brain produces the chakra for DMS which is responsible for giving his eyes DMS feats

He doesn't need MS to do so, he can manipulate fire just as good as lightning if he wants


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Enton is doujutsu. regular katon is not connected to it so i dont think so but he can shape his katon regardless


then that user would only be able to create the flames and shape it, use it as thrown projectiles but wont be able to spawn the flames directly on the target in his line of of sightsince amaterasu is the spawning of the enton flames on the target.

I agree with this.

So he can manipulate Amateratsu without MS? Please tell me more

I've seen worse tbh. Some retard would ramble about pre war arc MS Obito being able to use Rinnegan abilities without a Rinnegan because of dormant rikudo chakra in him :lol
 

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Enton is shape manipulation of Amaterasu so I doubt it. Though he can probably just manipulate the katon in general without it since it's made with his chakra.

Hmm...I was just wondering since the katon jutsu shown tend to be shaped with hand seals and then expelled from the body. I was wondering is he could use Enton to shape them when they are far away from his body and without hand seals.
 

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you are getting it wrong. without his left eye, he wont be able to spawn the flames on the target, thats is amaterasu. however he can create the flames (hes shown to do this) and shape them with his right eye so its not useless, he can use the flames independent of amaterasu, he just wouldnt be able to spawn them on the target. if he has his left eye however and not his right, then he wont be able to shape the flames.

So he can spawn Amaterasu flames with his Enton eye, but it is only near the body and not on a target in the user's line of sight? If you wouldn't mind, could you point me to some links or scans that show this ability?
 

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So he can spawn Amaterasu flames with his Enton eye, but it is only near the body and not on a target in the user's line of sight? If you wouldn't mind, could you point me to some links or scans that show this ability?
he can produce the black flames without amaterasu
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Blaze Style: Kagutsuchi only works to create flames when used through contacting chakra, which is why he needed to use Amaterasu when trapped in ice.

He deliberately created flames using Enton Kagutsuchi multiple times:





All without requiring Amaterasu. He likely used Amaterasu while encased in Kaguya's Ice considering the flames are more focused and spawn instantaneously through Amaterasu.

Edit: Looks like TNC XIII beat me to it.
 

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Exactly, so if MS Sasuke's left eye was crushed or stolen. His right MS eye would be useless because there is no amatersu by what you're implying? You're saying he needs his left eye in order for him to use his right, otherwise without it he can't use his right eye at all.
Stop trying to call the other eye useless. You're confusing Enton with Amaterasu.

This is not Amaterasu, it still uses the black flames.
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So he can spawn Amaterasu flames with his Enton eye, but it is only near the body and not on a target in the user's line of sight? If you wouldn't mind, could you point me to some links or scans that show this ability?
The black flames are just black flames. Amaterasu is the name of the Jutsu.
 
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Hmm...I was just wondering since the katon jutsu shown tend to be shaped with hand seals and then expelled from the body. I was wondering is he could use Enton to shape them when they are far away from his body and without hand seals.
Oh then nah. Enton is just for Amaterasu.
 

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Manipulates lightning without dojutsu
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Manipulates fire without dojutsu
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Manipulates wind without dojutsu
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But according to your dumb logic people can't use shape manipultion unless they have MS
 

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Manipulates lightning without dojutsu
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Manipulates fire without dojutsu
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Manipulates wind without dojutsu
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But according to your dumb logic people can't use shape manipultion unless they have MS

It's not possible for someone to be this retarded. Show me a scan of Sasuke manipulating blaze release or Amaterasu without his eyes
 

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Manipulates lightning without dojutsu
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Manipulates fire without dojutsu
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Manipulates wind without dojutsu
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But according to your dumb logic people can't use shape manipultion unless they have MS

In all those cases, the shape was manipulated branching out from the user's body. Sasuke first created the chidori on his hand, then used shape manipulation to make it launch out like a spear. For the fireball, Itachi spat fire from his mouth while shaping it into a ball and it maintained that shape when it was launched forward. Similarly, the Rasenshuriken is first shaped in the user's hand, then thrown. It maintains its shape for a bit, then destabilizes and creates a giant sphere of tiny wind needles.

What I'm asking is if there is a fire present in the user's sight but far away form the body, would the user be able to manipulate its shape with his Enton eye. I never said he wouldn't be able to manipulate an elements shape without his MS.
 
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