Sasuke's EMS

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What exactly did EMS unlock for him?
 

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Nothing. He just doesn't go blind when using strenuous mangekyo sharingan techniques. It's not Perfect Susano'o either because MS Kakashi used it.
 

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It strengthens the core abilities of the sharingan.
There are two types;the straight comma and curved comma sharingan.
The straight one is noted for its emphasis physical(Or as the wiki states "granting the fluidity of movement") combat which is shown through utilization of the precognition ability to predict moves and counteract them involving in yourself psyhically and the curved one puts empahses on spiritual energy like being particualry strong in genjustu.

To have a mangekyou that combines the staright and curve aspects is to have the strengths of the core abilites at their best.
The only real tangibly apparent difference is the fact that it stops the user from going blind.
 

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EMS is basically a glorified pair of glasses.

It might hasten the user's ability to manifest Perfect Susano'o, but with the right amount of Chakra Control and potency, MS can achieve Perfect Susano'o as well.
 

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What exactly did EMS unlock for him?

He had itachi's powes, along with his own...which is still not clear...but I think it was "kagatsuchi/blaze release"...shaping the amaterasu flames and his own susanoo...

Not sure what he had with his original MS, other than those two things..
 

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Stronger chakra and no blindness. Kishi didn't wanna give him Itachi's MS abilities because he woulda been too overpowered.

Amaterasu/Enton Tsukuyomi Susano'o with yata and totsuka.
 

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EMS is basically a glorified pair of glasses.

It might hasten the user's ability to manifest Perfect Susano'o, but with the right amount of Chakra Control and potency, MS can achieve Perfect Susano'o as well.
Given more time with his MS Sasuke would likely have acquired PS. The only thing that kept him from acquiring said PS was his unrelenting blindness. Otherwise EMS did nothing for him other than take away the blindness drawback and, perhaps, give him Chakra potency, which wouldn't really make sense in the context of Sasuke already having chakra potency of an adult at age 8 or so when he mastered the Fireball technique, and proving he was far greater than most adults at age 13 when he was cursed with the Heavenly Seal and not dying, and even mastering it at age 16. Those feats alone prove Chakra potency was already something he had. So the point on Sasuke getting that with EMS doesn't really hold with that mentally hoarded. There's also the assumption it gave him greater precognition, but who's to say that when there's nothing feat-wise in conjunction with that statement, or does Sasuke literally say his precognition improved from inserting Itachi's eyes? If not, that remains only speculation.
 

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Itachi's power. According to himself. Perfect Susanoo is only gotten with EMS.
 

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Nothing really except no blindness, he didn't gain Tsuki, the shield of Solo, the sword of solo, Itachi's Susa or a fusion of his and Itachi's. I think Kishi originally intended to give Sasuke Itachi's abilities via his eyes hence the statement about Itachi's power flowing through his eyes. However after careful consideration Kishi decided against it because with those powers and 0 restrictions(no blindness) Sasuke would fodderstomp Naruto and everybody else(excluding Madara sama) even without the Rinnegan.
 

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Nothing really except no blindness, he didn't gain Tsuki, the shield of Solo, the sword of solo, Itachi's Susa or a fusion of his and Itachi's. I think Kishi originally intended to give Sasuke Itachi's abilities via his eyes hence the statement about Itachi's power flowing through his eyes. However after careful consideration Kishi decided against it because with those powers and 0 restrictions(no blindness) Sasuke would fodderstomp Naruto and everybody else(excluding Madara sama) even without the Rinnegan.

Perfect Susanoo.
 

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Perfect Susanoo.

Not mentioned as an EMS power or Itachi's power. It's only condition is having MS according to the databook entry.

Complete( literally full body)Susano'o*

Ninjutsu,all ranges,kekke-genkai,offensive,defensive.*
Users: Uchiha Madara
Eternity reigns within these pupils,allowing to shape the bravery into clad blue!*


The power of the "Mangekyo Sharingan" is able to activate incredible ninjutsu.Enormous chakra clad jutsu materialize, towering over the mountains( exceeding the height of the mountains), taking authority over battlefield to its hands(changing the flow of battle).Appearance of the complete jutsu differs in accordance to the user.Moreover for users that are good at ninjutsu "Susano'o"themselves,becomes possible to enter/trigger the invocation of the complete body(kanseitai).Furthermore Susano'o in next form can wear special armor which can shape/turn on wings that allow it to fly.
Picture: the great complete Susano'o cutting strength that can cut-off mountain peaks,is easily enough to shut down even iron hard resistance (or is enough to make even iron-hard enemies to forfeit the battle).*

As somebody else mentioned non EMS Obito used PS via kakashi.
 
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Not mentioned as an EMS power or Itachi's power. It's only condition is having MS according to the databook entry.

Complete( literally full body)Susano'o*

Ninjutsu,all ranges,kekke-genkai,offensive,defensive.*
Users: Uchiha Madara
Eternity reigns within these pupils,allowing to shape the bravery into clad blue!*


The power of the "Mangekyo Sharingan" is able to activate incredible ninjutsu.Enormous chakra clad jutsu materialize, towering over the mountains( exceeding the height of the mountains), taking authority over battlefield to its hands(changing the flow of battle).Appearance of the complete jutsu differs in accordance to the user.Moreover for users that are good at ninjutsu "Susano'o"themselves,becomes possible to enter/trigger the invocation of the complete body(kanseitai).Furthermore Susano'o in next form can wear special armor which can shape/turn on wings that allow it to fly.
Picture: the great complete Susano'o cutting strength that can cut-off mountain peaks,is easily enough to shut down even iron hard resistance (or is enough to make even iron-hard enemies to forfeit the battle).*

As somebody else mentioned non EMS Obito used PS via kakashi.

Kakashi used perfect Susanoo with rikudou's power.
 

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Kakashi used perfect Susanoo with rikudou's power.

Rokudo's power was never stated as being the reason for perfect Susa and the databook entry also confirms M&S is only necessary. Do toy have anything to confirm other than that?
 

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Rokudo's power was never stated as being the reason for perfect Susa and the databook entry also confirms M&S is only necessary. Do toy have anything to confirm other than that?

Sakura said rikudo power enhances Ocular powers.
 

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Sakura said rikudo power enhances Ocular powers.

Sakura is the expert on Rikudo now? While I agree with her it was never stated that Rikudo chakra or EMS gave PS. Anyway none of that answers the databook entry or a living Rikduo chakra Obito not using PS. A dead Obito who's Rikudo chakra likely ceased to exist pulls it off.

The databook is clear on the conditions(MS) for PS. If you have evidence from the databook or Kishi stating EMS or Rikudo chakra are necessary then please presnt it.

I'm not going to repeat myself as we're likely to go around in a circle.
 

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Sakura is the expert on Rikudo now? While I agree with her it was never stated that Rikudo chakra or EMS gave PS. Anyway none of that answers the databook entry or a living Rikduo chakra Obito not using PS. A dead Obito who's Rikudo chakra likely ceased to exist pulls it off.

The databook is clear on the conditions(MS) for PS. If you have evidence from the databook or Kishi stating EMS or Rikudo chakra are necessary then please presnt it.

I'm not going to repeat myself as we're likely to go around in a circle.

Sasuke attained Perfect V4 Susanoo in Danzo's fight. Why didnt he attain Perfect, then and there?
 
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