Sasuke's Darkness And Naruto's Fire

[Xāvî1]

Till now Naruto dosen't have a answer though :|
I completely agree with Sasuke Part btw

Just wait he will find the answer!!

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

Splendid as usual.
I am most definitely am going to read up on Maximilien de Robespierr.
He sounds very interesting.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Naruto is having same mindset as all other hokages did.
What did it solve hatred or fights? Nothing, NV had 3 world wars not counting the last one in span of rougly 100 years.


Sasuke is just 17, if lives another 50 or 60 it will be longest peace duration NV has known.
Sasuke doesnt intend to cause bloodshed either just enough to atract the hate towards him and its not like he cant find or brainwash someone later on and pass the torch.

 

[EPICMenma]

Judging from Last movie, Sasuke get Tnj'ed is most likely happening..
OT: Great Thread, Sir Derp Obito.

 

[Sir Cool Blizzard]

Nice thread.
I agree.....violence and hatred will never lead to sustainable and permanent peace. U_U

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

I agree with most of the points of this thread.Sasuke's solution will backfire in the long run and create more strife as a result.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Nice theory. +rep

Naruto will TnJ Sasuke, no doubt.

LOL at nice theory

This is not even a theory

By the way Sir Derp Obito, good explanation there about light path and dark path.

 

[KingHashirama]

So he will be just like Jiraiya[the same guy try to kill Nagato] and won't kill anyone becoz of their sob stories and will keep chasing after peace :|
How is going to counter the Hatred of Shinobi abd bring peace world dats what i m asking?

How did he counter Obito's hatred? How did he counter Nagato's hatred?

Did he state he won't kill anyone because of their sob stories? And since when did killing = peace? Avatar Aang ended a 100 years of war without killing anyone.

Hatred of shinobi exists because there is no understanding, and over the course of this war. Naruto Uzumaki had become the symbol of Hope. He had shared his heart with the people. People understand each other now better than before, due to Naruto Uzumaki.



Jiraiya didn't say anything about not killing, nor did Naruto. He only stated he won't kill Nagato, because he UNDERSTOOD HIM.

Naruto is the same as Hashirama, he is not going to try and do things as a dictator.... and try to get other people's approval.

Unlike, sasuke he won't be killing anyone who thinks his way of doing things is wrong.

What type of answer is that Lol a bad one. Naruto has yet to show any signs of having an solution to peace while Sasuke does. Sasuke wants to start a revolution. He wants to show them what a real kage should be like and he said that before while he was dying after madara stabbed him. Sasuke will show them the actions a hokage is suppose to make and define the role of a hokage or kage. After sasuke dies the role kage will already be defined by sasuke example he has set, with there being peace others will continue to follow this idea of a kage. The only thing wrong with sasuke plan imo is that in the future someone might end up abusing there power and become a tyrant.

But he has shown a solution to peace. The solution is understanding, and not forcing. The solution is love and not power.

How can he show them what a real Kage should be like, if he didn't even invent the position? idiocy.

Hashirama defined the role of Hokage, yet what did Hiruzen do? What did Itachi do? What did Danzo do? What did Tobirama do? none of them followed his steps.. and if they had followed his steps, maybe there truly would've been peace.

Sasuke himself plans to turn into a stalin, if you approve of stalin, then so be it.. but i don't.

They are Ashura's transmigrants for a reason.
Hagoromo chose Ashura instead of Indra and that stared this feud. It later continued with Hashirama siding with Tobirama over Madara which continued the feud.
This time around he decided to give both Ashura and Indra's reincarnates power to end the feud, but Naruto wants to keep everything the same, something that Sasuke doesn't want.
Anyone who doesn't agree with Naruto's ideals are automatically wrong. This is why Naruto was faping to Itachi this chapter.

Lets seperate prespective from the "fact".

Perspective: Rikudou choosing Ashura starts the feud

FACT: Indra getting hurt and not understanding starts the feud.

Perspective: Hashirama sided with Tobirama over Madara

FACT: Hashirama was pushing Madara to be the second Hokage. But Madara couldn't handle not being in power.

Perspective: Naruto wants to keep everything the same

FACT: Sasuke wants to keep up the feud with a death and kill , and continue it. While Naruto uzumaki wants to end it.

Perspective: Naruto was fapping to Itachi this chapter.

FACT: He was only making your fav Sasuke, look like a hypocrite who wanks on his brother 24/7 yet doesn't follow what his brother says.


Notice how much your perspective is off from the "MATTER OF THE FACT".

 

[iNotorious]

Hitler #2 inbound.

 

[Dragon Master]

Light = Will of Fire, Love, Peace
Darkness = Hatred, Hate, War

 

[shelke]

The most poor thread out of you, yet. You didn't even explain the idea behind ideologies and have suddenly delved headlong into some pseudo-philosophical tirade, which is quite baseless without establishing the merits for it first. Ideologies don't die with individuals like Sasuke, especially if their compass is wide.

Wow ... just wow ...

 

[Meowazziel]

Till now Naruto dosen't have a answer though :|
I completely agree with Sasuke Part btw

Naruto has an answer.

Dont give up. Believe in yourself and in others. Ask for help and accept help from others.
Accept the past and learn from it.
Naruto knows he cant save everybody. Its one of the lessons he learned when Neji died.
However, one shouldnt run from reality and what you have lost (as Obito did with his dreamworld), but keep who and what is precious to you inside your heart.

Change that what requires change.

Those are things that Naruto does to stay on his path.
Its basically his answer. It also inspires people around him.

Naruto managed to change the embodyment of hatred (Kurama) and befriend him.

Love can breed hatred, but that hatred can change again as well.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Great thread as always. Hate may breed more hate, as Love breeds more Love, yet the two are as Light and Darkness, one is the Gain, the other is Absency. Humanity's very nature strives towards gaining, just as we strive towards the Light, therefore no matter how vulnerable to hate, Love should always Win. Sasuke's darkness (absence/loss of light - due to his clan's massacre) overwhealms the little light he has in him, yet I think Naruto will find a way to Ignite the flame in him (by beating him up) and illuminate him once again.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Light = Will of Fire, Love, Peace
Darkness = Hatred, Hate, War

A most astute comprehension.

 

[Almighty Ra]

Awesome read as usual Sir Derp