Sasuke's Crushing Defeat

Jiraiyathesannin

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I'm not here to say whether or not it was a draw. I believe it was a victory for naruto, but thats not what this is about


This is about education

Mangapanda "i...lost..."

*********** "this is my loss".


I'll leave this up to you to decide how to change your arguments in the upcoming "Vs" threads we're gonna see all day

Just making sure you're informed




I can see how "i lost" could be an ideology thing (even though its unlikely)

But in the context of how exhausted they are, "this is my loss" seems very much like him being defeated in the fight.

Anyway, interpret how you will
 

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this right here, sasuke lost, fans need to deal with it
 

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Same topic again? People move on already, geez.
 

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Seasick fans can't even manage the damage control right now.
 

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So imagine if he didn't say ''I lost''

How would Naruto finish him off?
He clearly said they would die of blood loss if they moved...
 

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Depends on what you mean by "lost"
If you mean the fight, no it was a tie
If it's the objectives you're talking about, then yes he couldn't achieve his objective while Naruto did.
And in no way is the defeat "crushing", if at all.
 

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Depends on what you mean by "lost"
If you mean the fight, no it was a tie
If it's the objectives you're talking about, then yes he couldn't achieve his objective while Naruto did.
And in no way is the defeat "crushing", if at all.

Read ***********. Its much more clear. In context, they weren't talking about his ideals right there, they were talking about how much they were able to move. Naruto literally said he was gonna continue fighting. Sasuke was preparing for his death.
 

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Sasuke wanted to kill Naruto and spread his bs, he failed and lost. Mangaz Fax is OP
 

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Interesting to note the Manga name is Naruto, the Hero name is Naruto. To expected Sasuke to win is not logical.
 

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Nobody lost the fight, it is a draw as myself and most others predicted. Sasuke "lost" via ideals and inability to execute his plan, that was the whole point of his flashback. Anybody ignorant enough to try and refute that are just too desperate for wanting naruto to be the winner.

Anyway, it was a nice thing for Sasuke to finally acknowledge him and be more lighthearted.
 

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Nobody lost the fight, it is a draw as myself and most others predicted. Sasuke "lost" via ideals and inability to execute his plan, that was the whole point of his flashback. Anybody ignorant enough to try and refute that are just too desperate for wanting naruto to be the winner.

Anyway, it was a nice thing for Sasuke to finally acknowledge him and be more lighthearted.
No Sasuke lost Kishi had Him say so it canon and you can't change it.
 

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I really think Naruto fans (or Sasuke haters) are being desperate about this, they wanted Naruto to beat him to prove to Sasuke fans he's stronger but he didn't manage to do it so they are grasping at the straws to claim the "victory", it's really quite funny to see such desperation.

Inb4 someone posts that panel again.
 

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Lost loss doesn't matter...wen u don't win u lost...
 

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They both lost the battle but they won something even better. They realize that they respect and admire each other and that their friendship meant more to them than either one of them thought. There is no winner or loser here as far as the fight is concerned. They are both battered and bloody and even though they slept through the night they don't have enough energy to move. Moving too much could cause them to bleed to death.

Sasuke was not admitting he lost the fight, he was saying Naruto's ideals were stronger than his own. That isolating himself and cutting off his feelings was not the right thing. That by finally acknowledging Naruto, he was acknowledging the part of himself that had feelings for Naruto and Team 7. I think that tear from him at the end was a tear of relief that he could finally accept that part of himself, realizing it wasn't a weakness.

He was quick to let Naruto know he was not going to accept everybody or everything. Which is as it should be because a touchy, feely Sasuke just wouldn't be right or true to who he really is. Naruto succeeded in ending the transmigration. Sasuke succeeded in letting Naruto know that while the two of them settled their differences, everything else is not taken care of and he's not willing to accept everything.

Bottom line is like true friends they will have agreements and disagreements, but probably none worth killing each other anymore since they both almost died and they both realize it now. Now hopefully Sakura and Kakashi will find them soon so Sakura can heal them enough to end IT. So please stop fighting over who won and who lost, they both won. Naruto got his friend back and Sasuke got rid of his hatred.
 
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