Sasuke

[XxTayxX]

I dont know if someone made the same thread about this but sorry in advance. But how does Sasuke's CT work?

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We do know that he doesnt need black sphere's to create CT he can perform it by making the target the CT core but does that apply to enemies automatically or does he has to place them under some genjustu before He can actually do that??
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[Decimo Blaze]

its automatically he just place the biju under genjutsu so they wouldn't go crazy and try to escape

 

[Kαmi]

Think about it like this: The black sphere is simply a chakra construct created to have a strong gravitational pull to the black construct in order to create a sphere of rubble around it.

The Bijuu are nothing but beasts of chakra themselves. Sasuke's Chibaku Tensei allowed him to use the Bijuu as his sphere since they are masses of chakra already, created a sphere like Nagato or Madara wasn't necessary. He was able to do so after his genjutsu so chances are, his target has to be somewhat subdued or restrained for him to use his CT to this magnitude.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

The target probably needs to be still

 

[IndraGripen]

For me is Sasuke 100% stronger than Naruto... Just look at this shit he can do...

 

[Dantee]

He claps his hands and gg.

 

[XxTayxX]

Think about it like this: The black sphere is simply a chakra construct created to have a strong gravitational pull to the black construct in order to create a sphere of rubble around it.

The Bijuu are nothing but beasts of chakra themselves. Sasuke's Chibaku Tensei allowed him to use the Bijuu as his sphere since they are masses of chakra already, created a sphere like Nagato or Madara wasn't necessary. He was able to do so after his genjutsu so chances are, his target has to be somewhat subdued or restrained for him to use his CT to this magnitude.

Thats as logicial as it gets.

 

[Narusenpou]

on that scale they had to be restrained with a genjutsu being the best option

 

[XxTayxX]

Not even close. Naruto's RSM form combats Rinnegan users like they're nothing.

Not to mention this Sasuke at VOTE2 needed to stalmate Naruto with 9 tailed beasts chakra. Naruto with full kurama who can do TWICE as much now ... so now he is: Twice as powerful, can tank twice as much, and can create twice the size.

He pretty much destroys anyone right now.

They were fighting evenly the entire fight until sasuke took the bijuu chakra & got the upper hand, then Kurama sent senjustu to naruto to stalemate the indra arrow. Sasuke=Naruto, Naruto=Sasuke. Deal with it.

 

[XxTayxX]

Exactly. Naruto can gather natural energy to use with his avatar to amass strength beyond that of Sasuke.

He would need to absorb/gather that chakra to equal him out if Naruto ever deemed to go serious for that one moment.

Naruto > Sasuke in terms of strength
Doesn't mean Naruto beats Sasuke, I mean, unless you actually want to debate about it.

Deal with it ~

Well what your telling is obvious to me already. Naruto power wise is stronger because most of his moves are just about forest busters.

 

[ministerC4]

They were fighting evenly the entire fight until sasuke took the bijuu chakra & got the upper hand, then Kurama sent senjustu to naruto to stalemate the indra arrow. Sasuke=Naruto, Naruto=Sasuke. Deal with it.

Is this before Naruto fought in war for 4 days without sleep, or after Sasuke showed up at night, and fought Naruto the next day after doing absolutely nothing in the Kaguya fight?

Or is this before Sasuke got chakra from Hashimara, Juugo, and again more from Juugu.
Wait, is it that early on?
Maybe it was later on when Sasuke took Naruto's tailed beast chakra?

 

[Amaterasu]

Think about it like this: The black sphere is simply a chakra construct created to have a strong gravitational pull to the black construct in order to create a sphere of rubble around it.

The Bijuu are nothing but beasts of chakra themselves. Sasuke's Chibaku Tensei allowed him to use the Bijuu as his sphere since they are masses of chakra already, created a sphere like Nagato or Madara wasn't necessary. He was able to do so after his genjutsu so chances are, his target has to be somewhat subdued or restrained for him to use his CT to this magnitude.

Couldn't have say it better

 

[Im Still Robin]

Think about it like this: The black sphere is simply a chakra construct created to have a strong gravitational pull to the black construct in order to create a sphere of rubble around it.

The Bijuu are nothing but beasts of chakra themselves. Sasuke's Chibaku Tensei allowed him to use the Bijuu as his sphere since they are masses of chakra already, created a sphere like Nagato or Madara wasn't necessary. He was able to do so after his genjutsu so chances are, his target has to be somewhat subdued or restrained for him to use his CT to this magnitude.

Then why didn't Pain just do that to Naruto since he has a huge aaa chakra pool plus the foxes which is attached to his?

Kinda bursts this theory in a way, but I guess there are plot holes for everything.

 

[Im Still Robin]

Not even close. Naruto's RSM form combats Rinnegan users like they're nothing.

Not to mention this Sasuke at VOTE2 needed to stalmate Naruto with 9 tailed beasts chakra. Naruto with full kurama who can do TWICE as much now ... so now he is: Twice as powerful, can tank twice as much, and can create twice the size.

He pretty much destroys anyone right now.

Yeah, noob sub par rinnegan users. He has yet to defeat a rightful full fledged rinnegan user by himself.

Nagato, wasn't his, same with the pains.
Obito, didn't use the moves, couldn't anyways.
Kaguya, sasuke was there and CT was needed anyways.
Sasuke, fox admitted if he was fully trained they would of lost the clashes by him simply absorbing rasengan or TBBs while they are clashing.

Naruto had his huge @ss chakra pool plus the fox huge aaa chakra pool ... if you don't know how that looks then here -

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And that's only half kurama my friend, plus he had all the other tailed beast chakra and sage mode which is the sages sage mode not toad sage mode.

Sasuke only had his chakra which pales in comparison to naruto's entirely and what was left of the tailed beast chakra, because even the beasts weren't at 50% when they were freed because kaguya was stated to be almost out of chakra a couple of chapters before they were released.

Naruto will always have more chakra than sasuke, manga fact.

Sasuke would ultimate defeat Naruto logically because rinnegan counters everything naruto has and naruto has nothing to counter what sasuke has aside from clashing.

As you can see he could only tank or clash with other things to match. I mean a C.O.A.T ball was equal to one of sasuke's sh!tty arrows that were used waaaaaaaay back vs danzo XD

Sasuke = Naurto though I can burst a naruto fanboy with just this alone.

 

[Im Still Robin]

Exactly. Naruto can gather natural energy to use with his avatar to amass strength beyond that of Sasuke.

He would need to absorb/gather that chakra to equal him out if Naruto ever deemed to go serious for that one moment.

Naruto > Sasuke in terms of strength
Doesn't mean Naruto beats Sasuke, I mean, unless you actually want to debate about it.

Deal with it ~

He doesn't need to absorb chakra to be equal seeing as naruto has the upperhand because of beats. In a logical fight if it had rules rinnegan would be allowed and or part of sasuke's normal sharingan abilities only because removing the tailed beasts would kill naruto.

Naruto will always .. well not be stronger, but as their normal body I would probably, well not really. Idk in terms of strength because they fought evenly in nearly everything honestly.

Sasuke will always be faster .. can't really say that either since naruto did blitz kaguya, but kakashi did too .. lmao and sakura so that's illogical to say sasuke is slower than kakashi and sakura. But he's instant and naruto can't dodge those attacks.

 

[XxTayxX]

Is this before Naruto fought in war for 4 days without sleep, or after Sasuke showed up at night, and fought Naruto the next day after doing absolutely nothing in the Kaguya fight?

Or is this before Sasuke got chakra from Hashimara, Juugo, and again more from Juugu.
Wait, is it that early on?
Maybe it was later on when Sasuke took Naruto's tailed beast chakra?

What are you talking about?

 

[ministerC4]

What are you talking about?

I'm just trying to find the date the two became equal, after which powerup was it?
I have no clue, there's just so many of them, I need some help.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

Kami pretty much summed up what I was going to say.

Remember that the genjutsu placed on the Bijuu allowed Sasuke to use the Reverse Outer Path to take in their chakra. He merely uses his control over the bijuu, which are just masses of chakra, to apply the gravitational effect of CT to the bijuu using that same connection.

 

[~Ethereal~]

That Kami though, wish I could rep him.

 

[Kαmi]

Then why didn't Pain just do that to Naruto since he has a huge aaa chakra pool plus the foxes which is attached to his?

Kinda bursts this theory in a way, but I guess there are plot holes for everything.

Sasuke used genjutsu first.