Sasuke with Juubi's eyes and Naruto with Juubi'ss body could beat Rikudou Madara

Would like for Juubi's eyes and Juubi's body to posses predicted abilities ?

  • Yeah, Juubi's eye= all doujutsu powers, Juubi's body=all nature elements and Senjutsu

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  • Some of them

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KCMNaruto

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Hello guys, I would like to share with you my thoughts about legit way of defeating Current Madara, who is Ten tails host himself. I will try to show and prove the way I think of to be legit way to stop Sage Madara without asspulls or limiting/nerfing Madara, so we can get full out battle with without any hindrance or plot stopping one of them to use full power. Here I go:

Ten tails's eye :
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^^ Noone across the entire manga knows anything about abilities/powers hidden inside Ten tails's eye which is shown as mix/combination of sharingan and Rinnegan. To be honest The best description I would give this eye could be Nine tomoe Rinnegan.

Kishi didn't elaborate more about Ten tails's eye yet but I think he will soon.

- It was eye which Obito wanted so much to amplify power his eyes to maximum so he can use Mugen Tsukuyomi.
- It was the same eye which Madara wants as reflection of this eye is shown always when preview of Mugen Tsukuyomi is shown.

Honestly I believe the mastery over this eye could grant one: ALL base Sharingan abilities + All Mangenkyou techniques: Sussano, Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Kotoamatsukami and Kamui, but it is not all in theory it should also grant the wielder Full power of all Rinnegan abilities.

In other words it would be:

Nine tomoe Rinnegan= ALL base Sharingan abilities + All Mangenkyou techniques + All Rinnegan abilities + Yin energy full powers

It could defnietly make Sasuke overpowered enough to along with Naruto face Rikudou Madara at his best.
Sasuke getting this eye could also explain how Sasuke will surprass none Ten tails jin Madara.

Ten tails's body :
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^^ The Ten tails's original body was displayed as Giant tree with mastery of wood release use. Ten tail's body was shown as ultimate body possesing all five basic nature elements: fire, wind, water, lightining and earth. While Wood release is one of KKG, in theory Ten tails's body allows to create any combination of two, three or more nature elements combined, even all can be combined creating black fluid substance which has great power:
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Ten tails's body is very durable and strong. It posses great life force which can keep man alive for very long time. Ten tails's body also can automatically absorbs nature energy to make up for lack of the chakra or to power up itself.

In other words:

Ten tail's body= five basic nature elements, + any combination of any number of five basic nature elements + Senjutsu + great life force + Yang energy full power

It could defnietly make Naruto overpowered enough to along with Sasuke face Rikudou Madara at his best.
Naruto getting this body could also explain how Naruto will surprass SM Hashirama, the man who possesed diluted power of God Tree' body himself.

Conclusion
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Sasuke's Ten tails eye > Rikudou Madara's Rinnegan
Naruto's Ten tails body > Rikudou Madara's ten tails body
Rikudou Madara > Naruto
Rikudou Madara > Sasuke
Naruto && Sasuke > Rikudou Madara

I honestly believe that Kishi will grant them power up mentioned by me in this thread, so they will have full out battle with no limit.

Summary :
  • Sasuke will get Nine tomoe Rinnegan/Juubi's eye possesing all sharingan and MS abilities + all Rinnegan abiltiies (Maybe Byakugan moves too)
  • Naruto will gain Ten tails's body possesing all nature elements, all combination of all nature elements, Ultimate Senjutsu and great life force.
  • While both Naruto and Sasuke will exceed Rikudou Madara in their speciality(Sasuke in Eyes and Naruto in body), still Rikudou Madara will stays as the strongest shinobi. Seperatelty they will be close to Juubito or match him
  • Together working Naruto and Sasuke will finish Rikudou Madara in full out battle

Thanks for reading !
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shaRinnegan is the final dojutsu and sasuke won't get it
sasuke will achieve Rinnegan and naruto will get Rikudu mode IMO
 

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shaRinnegan is the final dojutsu and sasuke won't get it
sasuke will achieve Rinnegan and naruto will get Rikudu mode IMO

well why not, Nine tomoe Rinnegan would be unique and original dojutsu for Sasuke as power up. It could also fit Orochimaru's statement with Sasuke surprassing Madara(none jin of course as I doubt Orochimaru included possibility of Madara being Juubi Jin.)

Rikudou mode for Naruto could be great, but I think Ten tails body would be much more powerfull and usefull at the same time.

I see it like:

Rinnegan-> Enhanced Rinnegan(Juubi's eye)
Rikudou mode-> Enhanced Rikudou mode(Juubi's body)
 

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If what you are saying happened, Sasuke will be stronger than naruto. The rinnegan can only be achieved through a union of the eye and body of the sage. If sasuke gets an eye that gives him all of the sharingan and rinnegan powers he will be far, far stronger than naruto. Because he has both the eyes and body and then some. While naruto only has body abilities. The only way to even things is if naruto gets special eyes as well.
 

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well why not, Nine tomoe Rinnegan would be unique and original dojutsu for Sasuke as power up. It could also fit Orochimaru's statement with Sasuke surprassing Madara(none jin of course as I doubt Orochimaru included possibility of Madara being Juubi Jin.)

Rikudou mode for Naruto could be great, but I think Ten tails body would be much more powerfull and usefull at the same time.

I see it like:

Rinnegan-> Enhanced Rinnegan(Juubi's eye)
Rikudou mode-> Enhanced Rikudou mode(Juubi's body)

agree with naruto part
but shaRinnegan is juubi eye, you only can cast the reflection of it on the moon
so Rinnegan or sages elder son dojutsu(If it's something else beside Rinnegan) would be great for sasuke
 

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No where in manga stated or hinted sasuke would get jubi eyes, unless naruto split his jubi chakara with sasuke. I don't see how sasuke possible to get jubi eyes at all. Remember even if naruto have full jubi, he ain't getting jubi eyes. Then how can sasuke without any jubi at all? Only wild guess is possible
 
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If what you are saying happened, Sasuke will be stronger than naruto. The rinnegan can only be achieved through a union of the eye and body of the sage. If sasuke gets an eye that gives him all of the sharingan and rinnegan powers he will be far, far stronger than naruto. Because he has both the eyes and body and then some. While naruto only has body abilities. The only way to even things is if naruto gets special eyes as well.


well you are right ;(, because it could be Rikudou's body + enhanced Rinnegan(Juubi's eyes) Sasuke vs enhanced RB(Ten tails's body) Naruto

so it should be: Rikudou's body + enhanced Rinnegan(Juubi's eyes) Sasuke vs Rinnegan + enhanced RB(Ten tails's body) Naruto

Yes ?

EDIT: I think even if Sasuke gain Rinnegan then Nine tomoe Rinnegan then his body will be on special on use of chakra, amount of chakra, great physcial strength and life force. However he could still lack access to: all nature elements, any combination of free number of elements and Senjutsu that it.
 

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If what you are saying happened, Sasuke will be stronger than naruto. The rinnegan can only be achieved through a union of the eye and body of the sage. If sasuke gets an eye that gives him all of the sharingan and rinnegan powers he will be far, far stronger than naruto. Because he has both the eyes and body and then some. While naruto only has body abilities. The only way to even things is if naruto gets special eyes as well.

I disagree. I dont think naruto will get any dojutsu as it doesnt fit him at all. In truth none of us know the true power of the sages body. Im sure it is just as powerful as the dojutsu of the elder son. You are correct on the rinnegan being a combo of both eyes and body, but maybe this 9 tomoe rinnegan is actually the step after ems and before rinnegan, so it holds no power of body. Of course we will have to wait and see tho
 

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agree with naruto part
but shaRinnegan is juubi eye, you only can cast the reflection of it on the moon
so Rinnegan or sages elder son dojutsu(If it's something else beside Rinnegan) would be great for sasuke

@bold part, what do you think so ?

Kishi would suprise us and show it's combat abilties... but it is up to him.
Elder son's eyes are unique EMS's desgin in my opinion as Elder son lacked Sage's body to have Rinnegan or something stronger, and the the most powerfull depowered Rinnegan version could be EMS.
No where in manga stated or hinted sasuke would get jubi eyes, unless naruto split his jubi chakara with sasuke. I don't see how sasuke possible to get jubi eyes at all. Remember even if naruto have full jubi, he ain't getting jubi eyes. Then how can sasuke with jubi at all without any jubi? Only wild guess is possible

^^ Well feel free to disagree but Kishi is unpredictable so expect unexpected ;)

Besides Sasuke is already well with use of Sharigan, now he only lack mastery over Rinnegan and he may get NT Rinnegan.

I see this like that:
Sasuke get Rinnegan->eats half of fobidden fruit-> Sasuke get NT Rinnegan
Naruto gains Rikudou body->eats half of forbidden fruit-> Naruto get Ten tails's body
 

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well you are right ;(, because it could be Rikudou's body + enhanced Rinnegan(Juubi's eyes) Sasuke vs enhanced RB(Ten tails's body) Naruto

so it should be: Rikudou's body + enhanced Rinnegan(Juubi's eyes) Sasuke vs Rinnegan + enhanced RB(Ten tails's body) Naruto

Yes ?

EDIT: I think even if Sasuke gain Rinnegan then Nine tomoe Rinnegan then his body will be on special on use of chakra, amount of chakra, great physcial strength and life force. However he could still lack access to: all nature elements, any combination of free number of elements and Senjutsu that it.

I agree with this you now
 

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I disagree. I dont think naruto will get any dojutsu as it doesnt fit him at all. In truth none of us know the true power of the sages body. Im sure it is just as powerful as the dojutsu of the elder son. You are correct on the rinnegan being a combo of both eyes and body, but maybe this 9 tomoe rinnegan is actually the step after ems and before rinnegan, so it holds no power of body. Of course we will have to wait and see tho

If the eye is a step behind the rinnegan then it should be weaker than the rinnegan.
 

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If the eye is a step behind the rinnegan then it should be weaker than the rinnegan.

Ya thats what im saying. We dont know anything about this eye, insted of being an advanced rinnegan it could very well be the prequel to it.
 

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here's the problem though, how does sasuke get the juubi eyes? see naruto is the one that is getting all the tailed beast so him receiving anything juubi related is plausible, which would include juubi eyes. but sasuke is only getting senju dna, which has shown the capability to unlock rennigan ie madara. the only way he would get something of the ten tails is to have something of the bijuu which he does not have. so while it maybe a good idea to give him something like that, unfortunately he has no way of achieving said powerup.
 

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here's the problem though, how does sasuke get the juubi eyes? see naruto is the one that is getting all the tailed beast so him receiving anything juubi related is plausible, which would include juubi eyes. but sasuke is only getting senju dna, which has shown the capability to unlock rennigan ie madara. the only way he would get something of the ten tails is to have something of the bijuu which he does not have. so while it maybe a good idea to give him something like that, unfortunately he has no way of achieving said powerup.

Here comes simple solution: Forbidden fruit finally emerges and Naruto and Sasuke split in him in half(theme of teamwork and frienship power etc.) then eat each of half.

Naruto: weaker Ten tails body/Rikudou Body(small amounts of Ten tails chakra)-> eats half of fruit-> Ten tails's body
Sasuke: weaker Ten tails's eye/Rinnegan eye-> eats half of fruit-> Ten tails's eye

I believe that Forbidden fruit will be last step necessary for them to unlock these final power ups and remember that Forbidden fruit is pure essence of Ten tails's chakra ;)
 

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@bold part, what do you think so ?

Kishi would suprise us and show it's combat abilties... but it is up to him.
Elder son's eyes are unique EMS's desgin in my opinion as Elder son lacked Sage's body to have Rinnegan or something stronger, and the the most powerfull depowered Rinnegan version could be EMS.


^^ Well feel free to disagree but Kishi is unpredictable so expect unexpected ;)

Besides Sasuke is already well with use of Sharigan, now he only lack mastery over Rinnegan and he may get NT Rinnegan.

I see this like that:
Sasuke get Rinnegan->eats half of fobidden fruit-> Sasuke get NT Rinnegan
Naruto gains Rikudou body->eats half of forbidden fruit-> Naruto get Ten tails's body

How generous of naruto. If he's so generous, there's no reason he needs to beat sasuke. His sweet talk can ko sasuke at the end for sure
But I really don't recall so6p mom had nine tome rinnegan. And no human ever existed who ever possess such eyes, so I think this is not the way he will get nine tome if kiski want to make that twist
 

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Sorry but it does not make sense. Do you really think Kish will make his main character be weaker than Sasuke. ?
 

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In many mangas the main character isnt the strongest.... But i do hope naruto ends up
Staying stronger. I dont like sasukes attitude
 

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Sorry but it does not make sense. Do you really think Kish will make his main character be weaker than Sasuke. ?

weaker ? no, equal yes ;)

At least until Naruto vs Sasuke final fight then Naruto becomes Jin of Complete Juubi and befriend it getting ultimate powers surprassing even SOSP and living enternal life as guard of peace ;)

In the end of Manga, Naruto will be much stronger then Sasuke.

In many mangas the main character isnt the strongest.... But i do hope naruto ends up
Staying stronger. I dont like sasukes attitude

Well but he would be not weaker and I also don't like Sasuke's attitude but I want them to be balanced as Kishi stated to keep them equal if possible.

Let's me show what would Sasuke have: All MS abilities + all abilities of Rinnegan

Let's me show what would Naruto have: Dust release, Ice release, Wood release, steam release, lava release, Storm release, black fluid substance(juubito and Madara uses) + many other KKG, KKT or higher made of nature elements.

I don't see how Naruto would be weaker...
 
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Naruto true power is not brutal force. his true power is make friends like how he subdue all tail beasts. He didn't wrestle with all tail beasts at once. He melted their hearts. He doesn't need to be the strongest. All he got to do is to be strong enough to survive till sauske become his buddy again
 

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Here comes simple solution: Forbidden fruit finally emerges and Naruto and Sasuke split in him in half(theme of teamwork and frienship power etc.) then eat each of half.

Naruto: weaker Ten tails body/Rikudou Body(small amounts of Ten tails chakra)-> eats half of fruit-> Ten tails's body
Sasuke: weaker Ten tails's eye/Rinnegan eye-> eats half of fruit-> Ten tails's eye

I believe that Forbidden fruit will be last step necessary for them to unlock these final power ups and remember that Forbidden fruit is pure essence of Ten tails's chakra ;)

Here is the problem with your fruit theory. The shinju is a tree with a flower right? In biology a fruit is made only after a flower blooms. What happens when the shinju's flower blooms? bam! infinite tsukuyomi. Naruto and sasuke would already be in the genjutsu before the fruit even gets ripe.
 
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