Naruto99Uzumaki
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even if im a fanboy of madara i know sasuke cant surpass madara, in logical way
Fact: can sasuke take two massive meteorites from atmosphere, nope
Fact: can sasuke take two massive meteorites from atmosphere, nope
Sasuke will surpass Madara (reasons) must read
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Transcendence
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This is obvious. He's getting PS soon, and in turn he will be > EMS Madara because he has the use of Enton AND a shield on his Susano'o. He'll probably gain the Curse Mark (Level 3 probably) full time to immensely increase the size of the Susano'o more so than Madara's and his techniques increased AND I can see him gaining a new EMS Technique unique to him. This isn't even accounting for the possibility of him and Naruto possibly eating the fruit that will bloom which will put them nigh near Rikudou.
LolChidori
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Youth is not the only thing in his favor. I'm inclined to believe he's developed potential regarding experience and onslaught. Madara can be matched.
People just can't stand the idea of Sasuke chancing at defeating a character that was held at high standards above the shinobi nation.
People just can't stand the idea of Sasuke chancing at defeating a character that was held at high standards above the shinobi nation.
SabakuNoGaaraOVZ
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I disagree. I'm a Sasuke fan, although Madara is my second fav character. I mean, Tobirama has fought Madara but he doesnt know about Madara's rinnegan. Also, he said that Sasuke has the 'potential', that doesnt mean he will surpass him. And I know that Orochimaru knows about Madara's rinnegan, however, he doesnt know about tengai shinsei (the meteor thing) or what madara's powers actually looked like, not to mention that Tobirama and Orochimaru's statements are only opinions, they're not facts. Sai called Sakura ugly, should we now run around saying that its a manga fact that sakura's ugly, just cus sai said it? naruto thinks shes pretty, doesnt make her pretty either, these are just opinions.
Umari Senju
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If that aint the most unbiased opinion on here...You sure you're a Sasuke fanboy? XD
SabakuNoGaaraOVZ
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Well,, I said sasuke fan not fanboy =D, in the sense of that i like his character the most, but still try to be realistic. I mean, I dont like sasuke because hes strong you know, I just find his story one of the most interesting, and the way he sacrificed karin for his revenge, that just made me certain of being a sasuke fan !
Uchihajin Sasuke
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Sasuke was compared to Madara by Kurama, Tobirama and SM Orochimaru...
It's obvious that he is going to surpass him.
It's obvious that he is going to surpass him.
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Uchihajin Sasuke
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The Robot With Human Hair
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Sasuke will surpass him. The author is simply making that clear this chapter. It was obvious long before Madara was resurrected.
I'm an Uchiha fan, and Madara/Itachi share my 2nd favorite spot after Sasuke but this should have been obvious to any Uchiha fan, Sasuke will be the one to carry on the Uchiha name from here on out, Madara will be surpassed and Sasuke's actions will determine the Uchiha's standing in the Shinobi World, no longer will it be Madara. I honestly don't see why anyone has a problem with it. Madara is still stronger at current, and he is still the same character. It's not like the world will come crashing down when Sasuke surpasses him and Madara would become some sort of peon.
I'm an Uchiha fan, and Madara/Itachi share my 2nd favorite spot after Sasuke but this should have been obvious to any Uchiha fan, Sasuke will be the one to carry on the Uchiha name from here on out, Madara will be surpassed and Sasuke's actions will determine the Uchiha's standing in the Shinobi World, no longer will it be Madara. I honestly don't see why anyone has a problem with it. Madara is still stronger at current, and he is still the same character. It's not like the world will come crashing down when Sasuke surpasses him and Madara would become some sort of peon.
SabakuNoGaaraOVZ
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Transcendence
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Considering that Kabuto, his direct subordinate worked on Madara's body, I wouldn't doubt him knowing about Rinnegan Madara. This is the same person who developed a hypothesis that the Sharingan would devolve in to the Rinnegan with the application of Senju DNA; and he's not even an Uchiha who has access to any fragment of the tablet. Sasuke surpassing any or all forms of Madara shouldn't be such a big jump. PS+Enton+Shield is more than enough to overlap EMS Madara; and any subsequent power would catapult him over Edo Madara (Like eating half the God Fruit).
The Robot With Human Hair
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Don't see how that factors in? It really doesn't matter currently, I still uphold EMS Madara holding more than twice EMS Sasuke's strength at the moment. Though this will change in the future.
SabakuNoGaaraOVZ
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All true, but Orochimaru has never seen madara's power in real life, not even EMS. He doesnt know that you can combine EMS & Rinnegan to use jutsus such as tengai shinsei, he knows about the doujutsu level, but he doesnt really know what the doujutsu level entails, what it actually looks like in real life..
Orochimaru absorbed his own chakra from Kabuto, but that doesnt mean he also got his his knowledge. Orochimaru thought that Madara could develop Rinnegan, but that was only a hypothesis, which Kabuto proven to be true.
SabakuNoGaaraOVZ
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Well, the manga stated that Sakura surpassed tsunade, but to me, it didnt really feel that way..with her new powerup, it didnt look like she would be able to beat tsunade, it felt like kishi said that just to give sakura a little bit more attention. It feels like this is happening again, but then with sasuke. But if Kishi really means this literally, and he wants us to believe that whatever tobirama/orochimaru's opinions are, are 100% facts, it would be a little lame to me, because Madara is a legend, and his rinnegan/mokuton/EMS combination was supposed to be the ultimate thing, and now sasuke is gonna surpass that and lose to naruto which both make madara's legend status fade away..