Sasuke will never be equal to Naruto?

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Part 1: Naruto trains very hard. Sasuke can't follow Naruto's progress. Sasuke is acting like a crying bitch. Sasuke goes to Orochimaru for cheats.
Part 2: Sasuke sees he is no match for Sage Mode Naruto. Sasuke asks Obito for Itachi's eyes. Sasuke likes to cheat.

Naruto: powers thanks to hard training (yes, also by defeating Kurama!)
Sasuke: lucky borned with special eyes, likes to cheat.

Naruto > Sasuke.
LOL you are actually such a fanboy...im laughing so hard right now XD

Pre part 1:
- Sasuke worked hard to be accepted by his father, he mastered his katon jutsu before even joining the academy...
- Sasuke fodderized naruto in their earlier battles, causing him to be uber jealous of his lords strength :p

Part 1:
- Sasuke was able to make of 2 low-jounin level ninja while naruto sh*ts his pants
- Cursed seal is sasuke's only powerup, and he still had to learn how to control it. Naruto & sasuke both have 1 free powerup each
- His intelligence and speed is . He even decided to let naruto live because he felt sorry for his fodder ass at the time U_U

Part 2:
-Sasuke decides he doesnt need oro's sh*tty powerup anymore, decided to train with MS. His fighting style got weaker but thats because he didnt unlock susanoo yet
- He earned his brother's eyes so he deserves to take them. It wasnt a free powerup that carried his ass throughout the entire manga like some people *cough*...naruto...*cough*

BM naruto > sasuke

Sasuke > any other form of naruto

To be fair, Naruto worked for his power ups. Its not like he can use KCM/BM skillfully out of nothing, he actually trained for these powers.
Sasuke worked hard for his MS powerups too
 
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And Naruto was born with the Kyuubi, they both had to work to get where they are today. Besides in a battle there are no rules and you use everything at your disposal to win.
Sasuke: eyes are a present.
Naruto: Kyuubi is not a present. It was a burden.

I am not dissing Sasuke, just telling the truth. Never compare Sasuke with a boss like Naruto when it comes to training.


@the other one: Sasuke defeated Naruto? Remember hospital scene, the reason why Sasuke decided to cheat with Orochimaru. Just face it, Sasuke without his seal (from Oro) and magical eyes is nothing. Naruto without Kurama is still Sage Mode = Elite level.
 

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Sasuke defeated Naruto? Remember hospital scene, the reason why Sasuke decided to cheat with Orochimaru. Just face it, Sasuke without his seal (from Oro) and magical eyes is nothing. Naruto without Kurama is still Sage Mode = Elite level.
lol wooow...

Cursed seal was a burden, he turned it into a power by controlling it just as naruto did with kurama, he just used oro as a sensei when he left

Naruto started to utilize kurama's chakra more...Dont you remember how their earlier battles turned out? naruto got molested every time

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Sasuke worked hard for MS (he killed Itachi) and EMS (he killed danzo)...Saying that he didnt work for his eyes is idiotic and childish. If you disagree then you better have a damn good excuse, meanwhile ill go warm up some popcorn ;)
 

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1. Lol. No, Oro's seal was no burden since Sasuke ASKED for it. He did not need to "tame it" because the seal was from him inmediatelly.
2. Naruto was the one who made name for himself, not Sasuke. Sasuke got jealous.
3. Sasuke did not kill Itachi. Itachi killed himself, he let Sasuke killing him.
4. Sasuke did not work hard for Itachi's eyes. He cheats all the time.
5. Sasuke defeated Danzo because Danzo underestimated him and thanks to Karin's help.

Keep trying, keep failing. I am eating too.
 

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1. Lol. No, Oro's seal was no burden since Sasuke ASKED for it. He did not need to "tame it" because the seal was from him inmediatelly.
2. Naruto was the one who made name for himself, not Sasuke. Sasuke got jealous.
3. Sasuke did not kill Itachi. Itachi killed himself, he let Sasuke killing him.
4. Sasuke did not work hard for Itachi's eyes. He cheats all the time.
5. Sasuke defeated Danzo because Danzo underestimated him and thanks to Karin's help.

Keep trying, keep failing. I am eating too.
1. Does it look like sasuke asked for to you? read the damn manga lmfao

2. Fail point, sasuke is the reason why naruto wanted to become stronger. And he was when sasuke said he wanted to fight him, LOL

3. Fail again, he still fought and almost died. He ran out of chakra and was on his last breath, he worked hard to do what he did against Itachi. He didnt give himself those injuries U_U

4. Oh my god how about you actually have something productive to say instead of "sasuke cheats" show me a scan of sasuke "cheating"?....You make terrible points, please rethink your life if this is the way you go about arguing face to face :rolleyes:

5. As I stated before, he still worked to kill danzo, Its not like it took him zero difficulty and he came out unscathed, maybe if he did then would I say that he got his EMS for free but you and I both know that this is not the case. The fact that he took damage during that fight (and itachi's) proves that he wasnt simply "given" his eye powerups...

I hope you have more fail to show me, this is getting interesting, HA! XD
 
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1. Lol. No, Oro's seal was no burden since Sasuke ASKED for it. He did not need to "tame it" because the seal was from him inmediatelly.
2. Naruto was the one who made name for himself, not Sasuke. Sasuke got jealous.
3. Sasuke did not kill Itachi. Itachi killed himself, he let Sasuke killing him.
4. Sasuke did not work hard for Itachi's eyes. He cheats all the time.
5. Sasuke defeated Danzo because Danzo underestimated him and thanks to Karin's help.

Keep trying, keep failing. I am eating too.
1. Sasuke never asked for it, shows what kind of manga reader you are. Orochimaru forced it upon him
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go back and re-read kid you make yourself look stupid

2. Sasuke was never jealous. Period
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I done with the rest of your worthless crap, you don't even post manga pages to back you up because there is no proof to back you up. Hell your the last person to even be talking with as little proof as you bring to the table, your just making up excuse and false accounts at that.
 
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Normally I would enjoy this, you know, talking the shit out of ya, but this time I am lazy so...
Btw, all your other points I already proved wrong and I don't repeat myself, but it is funny how you ignore how Sasuke went to Orochimaru because he knew Naruto > him. Sasuke is a lil crying bitch, bro, deal with it.
Those fanboys/girls from Sasuke are just the same like him, they have issues. The drama.
 
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it is funny how you ignore how Sasuke went to Orochimaru because he knew Naruto > him. Sasuke is a lil crying bitch, bro, deal with it.
What the f*ck are you reading?

He went to oro so he can gain power to kill Itachi, he couldnt give two sh*ts about naruto's worthless rivalry

How about you deal with the fact that you lost, and cant even make a coherent argument without looking like a retard
 

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Normally I would enjoy this, you know, talking the shit out of ya, but this time I am lazy so...
Btw, all your other points I already proved wrong and I don't repeat myself, but it is funny how you ignore how Sasuke went to Orochimaru because he knew Naruto > him. Sasuke is a lil crying bitch, bro, deal with it.
Those fanboys/girls from Sasuke are just the same like him, they have issues. The drama.
Yeah pt.1 Naruto >>> pt.1Sasuke
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Yepp naruto mos def >> Sasuke
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Get the **** over yourself, you say you speak the truth when you clearly don't . so stop your B.S. while your ahead
 

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Ok Guys, I would like to help us here. First, you might have noticed that I like to defend Naruto and sometime the Senju/Uzumaki in general. This is not because I love them more than the Uchiha. Rather, it is because I think they have been given a very difficult role by Kishi. You can summarize their role in to the following, and not forget this when comparing the two group in general.

In all decisive Naruto/Hashirama vs. Sasuke/Madara fight, Naruto/Hashirama is always trying to retrieve Sasuke/Madara while the later is going all out to defeat them.​

So this is the dilemma in this manga. From this logic, it is easy from the outcome of the battle that Naruto/Hashirama is much stronger than Sasuke/Madara. I used this logic to predict that HAsihirama was a god before Madara on Mangahelepers.com and most people insulted me. The thread was created before the late flashback, and you know the outcome. Now, let dig into Naruto vs Sasuke, and prove why Naruto is stronger than Sasuke.


1. Naruto's goals are much bigger than Sasuke's

I am pretty sure you understand what I mean. Naruto wants to be Hokage, and now has also taken Jiraya's quest for peace in the shinobi world. Sasuke's goal is only to avenge the Uchiha, which is a goal solely restricted to Konoha. If you add to these facts Naruto being the main character, it is easy to see that Naruto will be much stronger than Sasuke. Besides, needless to notice the large pool of his chakra+Kyuubi's. Note that in the shinobi world chakra is like fuel, and once you own it, you become king. Right now, if you add Naruto's late chakra control, he can basically perform all non KKG Jutsu.

2. Back to childhood

Most people who like to oppose the fact that Naruto is stronger and even very smart in battle always dig their argument out of his childhood. However, there is another interpretation of Naruto's childhood vs Sasuke's childhood. This interpretation is very crucial to understanding why Naruto is stronger than Sasuke in particular, and why a gifted Senju end up being stronger than an equivalently gifted Uchiha.

As a kid, Naruto lack coaching, and was only interested in being acknowledge by others. In class, he only showed his prankster side, pretending that he doesn't care about being shinobi. The reason was that when he become serious, he noticed that everyone leave him alone, and felt more pain. On the other end, at home, he was a very hard-worker, but without parent to guide him - resulting into failure. He had no one to tell him that he was failing because Kyuubi's chakra was mixed with his, and make his chakra difficult to control. Thus, Naruto was thinking that he failed because he is not smart. This is also what the bad user will think as well.

On the contrary, Sasuke had the potential of a genius clan. He was trained by his father, and could observe his gifted brother. Clearly, it is easy to see the gap between the two world. While regular student knew only bushin and chakra basis, a typical Uchiha kid was doing something else - trying to unlock the Sharingan. We even learned later that Sasuke went on mission with Itachi.

From these, I think comparing the childhood of the two guys is not accurate. One of them was a shinobi while the other was someone who was trying to become a shinobi in secret while hurting in public. Well, as an advocate of Naruto, I want you to understand that Naruto's goal as this point was to be acknowledge as human, not as a shinobi. Sasuke's goal was to be acknowledge by his father as an Uchiha (rings Sharingan and fire Jutsu).

3. Graduation and post graduation period

After failing the exam, Naruto got an additional awakening. You all know what happened. His body finally responded to his mind, and he got his Kage bushin. In all my interpretations, I always tell people that Naruto unlocked his Uzumaki KKG. The reason is that in the same way Sharingan (eyes) is the Uchiha KKG, life force and body feat are KKG of Uzumaki/Senju. Og course, similar to Uchiha, not all Senju can unlock it. So far, we have seen Hashirama, Naruto, and Nagato (perhaps Kushina and Mito).

From this point, you all know how Naruto caught up with base Sasuke up to the Sasuke leaving the village. This prove that once a Senju become a Shinobi, and start to fight for people he loves, he becomes really stronger quickly. Even, in Naruto's case, Kishi was forced to prevent him from having a lot of Jutsu to keep a balance between him a Sasuke. Kishi was even forced to give Sasuke the CS to balance also for Kyuubi cloak one tail.

4. At VOTE

Recall what I said earlier. Naruto was fighting to save Sasuke from Orochimaru while Sasuke was hesitating between killing him to get MS or not. You can see that actually, at the end, Naruto noticed that even if he wrecked Sasuke and took him back to the village, Sasuke will not stay happy. So Naruto changed his initial decision into marking Sasuke mentally. If you recall, even at the hospital roof, Sasuke always said that Naruto will never be able to put a scratch on his forehead protector. At the end of the VOTE battle, Naruto chose to tell Sasuke that he can while Sasuke tried to killed him. Even with the CS2 Chidori on Naruto's heart, Naruto regenerated before Kakashi came.

It is up to anyone to chose the winner of this fight. As far as I am concerned, I think Naruto won the fight, and could have terminated Sasuke if he wanted. He went down not because Sasuke was stronger. Rather, it was because he chose to save Sasuke rather than killing him.

5. SM Naruto vs MS Sasuke after MS Sasuke vs Danzou.

Some people interpreted Naruto's words literally when he said that he is still weaker than Sasuke. The problem is that they still forget that Naruto's intent is not to kill Sasuke, but to save him. What kind of power will someone need to stop an MS Sasuke without killing him. Well, I think it is a godly power. Naruto needs to be twice or thrice stronger than Sasuke so that the overwhelming power can make Sasuke give up. This is how I interpret Naruto's words.

Interestingly, Sasuke also said that he need Itachi's power to crush Naruto. So he seems that Sasuke could not crush Naruto. Actually, if you dig into it, you will notice that my interpretation is not bad. The reason is that Sasuke was already blind while Naruto has Kyuubi and SM. Clearly, we can even say that Naruto was not talking about Sasuke alone. At this point, Naruto was talking about Sasuke, Zetsu and Obito because Sasuke alone was a blind Uchiha.


I think I could elaborate, but it is a pain because I know that most fans don't care about analyzing the plot. For example, some people said that Naruto beat Pain because Pain did not want to kill him. However, Nagato last shot during their meeting was said to be the strongest. Nagato said that Naruto couldn't free himself from his control at this range, but Naruto did it. He freed himself. This prove that he could have freed himself when he was locked down before Hinata.

Well, I think anyone can think what he wants, but Kishi has made the different route clear for Sasuke and Naruto. The only way Sasuke has a chance to being on par with Naruto is to become a world-level villain. This is because Naruto will become a world-level hero very soon.
 
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Yeah pt.1 Naruto >>> pt.1Sasuke
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Get the **** over yourself, you say you speak the truth when you clearly don't . so stop your B.S. while your ahead
Childish and blind analysis. Look at Sasuke's forehead protector on the ground. Noticed that Naruto is not even hurt from all Sasuke's blow. It was a matter of Naruto's own resolve. He was testing and marking Sasuke mentally. This is how a god behave before a man. The reason is that the god know that a man cannot do anything to him.

I am pretty sure you ignore the fact that Naruto can regenerate from any wound.
 

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That=Madara Uchiha EMS;10923478]Even Zetsu said that Naruto is stronger then Sasuke ( Sage Mode vs MS ). And now Naruto is in the BM+he has some power from the other Bijuu[/QUOTE]

That was before susanoo
 

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Childish and blind analysis. Look at Sasuke's forehead protector on the ground. Noticed that Naruto is not even hurt from all Sasuke's blow. It was a matter of Naruto's own resolve. He was testing and marking Sasuke mentally. This is how a god behave before a man. The reason is that the god know that a man cannot do anything to him.

I am pretty sure you ignore the fact that Naruto can regenerate from any wound.
No naruto can't , Kurama can, their is a diffence; Without kurama that blow wound have kill naruto. Do you think kurama was going to let him die uh no; Naruto just scratched it at the last minute because that is the one thing sasuke said he couldn't do but that was not naruto's resolve ; Naruto's resolved was to be acknowledged by sasuke as equal's.
as of Naruto's mission it was to bring sasuke back which he didn't/couldn't do; Sasuke will come back but of his own free will; he isn't the type to take being told what to do lightly.
 
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Normally I would enjoy this, you know, talking the shit out of ya, but this time I am lazy so...
Btw, all your other points I already proved wrong and I don't repeat myself, but it is funny how you ignore how Sasuke went to Orochimaru because he knew Naruto > him. Sasuke is a lil crying bitch, bro, deal with it.
Those fanboys/girls from Sasuke are just the same like him, they have issues. The drama.
Why so hurtful Blossoms? That time of the month? I understand.
 

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LOL naruto needs plot & powerups (helooooo kurama....)
Umm you dummy that is what the whole manga is about. It is not about Sasuke, or Madara, or Izuna, or Obito, or Minato, or any one else that you can think of. Naruto had Kurama put into him when he was a baby because his father saw greatness in him.

Sasuke on the other hand was born with eyes that wasn't promised him any kind of power. In order for him to gain that power Itachi left him with his life in order to regain the name of the Uchiha Clan.
 

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What the f*ck are you reading?

He went to oro so he can gain power to kill Itachi, he couldnt give two sh*ts about naruto's worthless rivalry

How about you deal with the fact that you lost, and cant even make a coherent argument without looking like a retard
And how about you get with the times and know that right now Sasuke's new rivarly is now and forever Naruto. That is the main reason that he wanted to get Itachi's eyes. Sasuke knew that he was not able to beat Naruto with his current eyes(besides the point that he was going blind). Sasuke knew that his power was not enough to defeat Naruto. Yes Naruto said the same thing about Sasuke but that is only because Naruto doesn't have it in him to kill Sasuke and Sasuke does.

We have yet to really see Naruto go all out without transforming into the Bijuu. Now that he has the capability to go bezerk without actually going crazy we will soon see what he is capable of doing especially if he fuses both SM & BM.
 
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