Sasuke will go beyond the Rinnegan and achieve what Madara couldn't...

[D3A]

I see a NARDARD right

Sasuke pwned him 4 times by my count, so riding on his ugly blondie c**k would not help too much

and riding sasuke homo **** will do any better? Naruto was a poorly trained, unskilled weakling those "four" times. He knows how to fight, he has quite a number of enhancers, pretty much limitless chakra now that the kyuubi's on his side, not to mention every tech of Naruto's other than shadow clones is a one hit kill move. He can stand up to Sasuke.

and he was only pwned by sasuke twice.
1- When they sparred in the academy
2- They're "reunion" in the start of shippuden

Their fight in the valley was pretty much them fighting on equal terms. Sasuke gets stronger w/ cursemark and sharingan, and naruto getting stronger w/ kurama. Sasuke's whole character is based on pride in his clan and sharingan, it makes little to no sense for a character that loves his sharingan so much to get an entirely different eye.

Will sasuke get stronger than Madara? ...eventually, yes. But not through rinnehax or some other bullshit addon. Sasuke EMS will be a force to be reckoned with, why do you thing Kishi gave Madara rinnegan? Its cuz Sasuke will debut what the EMS can do, while Madara will remain a rinnehaxed zombie

 

[Qcks]

If Sasuke obtains the Rinnegan without immediately dying, he'll have done what Madara could not. Just to point that out.

I don't see why people seem to hate the idea of the Rinnegan being an advanced form of the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan soo much that they need there to be some other form of Sharingan for Sasuke to obtain.

All the current ninja powers are related to the Sage of the 6 paths. Even the Bijuu are fragments of power left over from the Sage. Given what's happening and has happened, it'd make sense for Sasuke to get the Rinnegan; plus, it'd clarify the process of obtaining it beyond the shadow of a doubt.

 

[Solo]

"Sharinnegan"

LOL!!

:flaw:

 

[Abd100]

Its quite possible, at this moment sasuke need some powerups to match naruto..


Sasuke fanboys make me hate sasuke, and sasuke haters are quite no-reason trashtalking.

And sasuke pwned naruto at the valley of the end, basicly because naruto is uzumaki and can survive for a long time, he fainted after that hit, sasuke didnt --> sasuke won.

 

[black uchiha]

If Sasuke obtains the Rinnegan without immediately dying, he'll have done what Madara could not. Just to point that out.

I don't see why people seem to hate the idea of the Rinnegan being an advanced form of the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan soo much that they need there to be some other form of Sharingan for Sasuke to obtain.

All the current ninja powers are related to the Sage of the 6 paths. Even the Bijuu are fragments of power left over from the Sage. Given what's happening and has happened, it'd make sense for Sasuke to get the Rinnegan; plus, it'd clarify the process of obtaining it beyond the shadow of a doubt.

Madara got the rinn before he died....just saying :shrug:

Its quite possible, at this moment sasuke need some powerups to match naruto..


Sasuke fanboys make me hate sasuke, and sasuke haters are quite no-reason trashtalking.

And sasuke pwned naruto at the valley of the end, basicly because naruto is uzumaki and can survive for a long time, he fainted after that hit, sasuke didnt --> sasuke won.

@ the 1st part: ur right he does, unless the EMS is just that savage

@ the 2nd: yes both sides go a little to hard in their love and hate....Sasuke is one of my favorite characters, but I'm a happy medium between the fanboy and hater

@ the last part: again ur right but IMO he beat Naruto on the hospital roof too....just to add that in there

 

[Qcks]

Madara got the rinn before he died....just saying :shrug:

Never said it went down differently, but how long did he have it for?

If the answer is "Not that long" then all Sasuke has to do to surpass the living Madara is obtain the Rinnegan without quickly dying off.

Since we don't know how long he had it for, it's speculation either way really:shrug:.

 

[black uchiha]

Never said it went down differently, but how long did he have it for?

If the answer is "Not that long" then all Sasuke has to do to surpass the living Madara is obtain the Rinnegan without quickly dying off.

Since we don't know how long he had it for, it's speculation either way really:shrug:.

Lol what :sy: with that logic all Sasuke has to do is just live longer then madara did without doing anything...lol but that's not what we are taking about. We're talking about the level of eye/techs that could be reached...lol

And the way you stated your post, you were saying that madara didn't get it until he was revived, u may have ment something else but that's how u said it sir.

 

[Qcks]

Lol what :sy: with that logic all Sasuke has to do is just live longer then madara did without doing anything...lol but that's not what we are taking about. We're talking about the level of eye/techs that could be reached...lol

And the way you stated your post, you were saying that madara didn't get it until he was revived, u may have ment something else but that's how u said it sir.

Actually i implied that he died shortly after he awakened it as a direct consequence of awakening it.... but i was a little unclear on that so i apologize.

And yes... all Sasuke has to do to surpass Madara is awaken the Rinnegan without dying.

Considering there are theories running around that state dying is part of awakening the Rinnegan, that should be pretty interesting.

 

[black uchiha]

Actually i implied that he died shortly after he awakened it as a direct consequence of awakening it.... but i was a little unclear on that so i apologize.

And yes... all Sasuke has to do to surpass Madara is awaken the Rinnegan without dying.

Considering there are theories running around that state dying is part of awakening the Rinnegan, that should be pretty interesting.

But that's not him surpassing madara, as madara and he would be at the same level, but Sasuke would just be there longer....


not the same

 

[lubricati0n]

Typical fanboys.

 

[Nathan]

Typical fanboys.

That. ^^

This section has just chaos.
Just another fanboy, talking up Sasuke saying how godly he is, when actually he isn't the strongest character at all.

 

[dhaoracle]

He will achieve the "True Sharingan" or lets say the "Sharinnegan", the Juubi's eye which the Sage of Six Paths inherited after being its host.

I mean come to think of it, what happens when a Jinchuuriki transforms or uses the tail-beast chakra? The eyes take the form of the beasts eyes right?

It makes perfect sense, when the Sage had his sons, he passed down the "eye power" to the elder, to the Uchiha, while the Sage's body was inherited by the younger son.

Just to clear anyones doubts what the "True Sharingan" is here is the panel -

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Your thoughts?

My thoughts are that you are looking way toooo much into it. The Jubi's eyes are not the Sharingan and you are really degrading this powerful dojutsu by calling it anything Sharingan. It is neither the Rinnegan or Sharingan but something totally different. entirely way way more powerful.

Also why do you think if Rikudo didn't get Jubi's eyes would you think that Sasuke out of all people could achieve such feat.??

 

[Qcks]

But that's not him surpassing madara, as madara and he would be at the same level, but Sasuke would just be there longer....

To debate the issue further gets into speculation and hypotheticals... but f*** it, that's how this thread started. Time for a long bit of speculation that you'll probably disagree with.

I think awakening the Rinnegan requires an EMS and Izanagi.

The EMS user uses Izanagi. Most people like to point out that Izanagi takes the sight away from the the Sharingans, but an Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan can never have it's light dimmed. Danzo did not have an arm full of EMSs and he was never going to get an EMS because he wasn't a full blooded Uchiha anyway.

Since Izanagi requires Senju DNA, this tends to be a major barrier to awakening the Rinnegan, and Madara was power hungry. Waiting for a descendant that had Senju and Uchiha DNA wasn't something he wanted to do.

In the narutoverse, Cell implantation is probably a new process. This is why Madara didn't put some random Senju DNA into himself, and why orochimaru's research was actually ground breaking.
Harashima's Mokuton was unique because it generated living plants that were self sustaining to some degree, and that made obtaining a living sample easier then using cells from a different Senju.

The fact that Harashima was the strongest Senju and Madara's rival was just a bonus.

Anyway.... after obtaining the Harashima cells, Madara could use Izanagi.

Now at this point there's a bit of a Chicken or the Egg problem... Madara used Izanagi to create Gedo Mazo. I don't know which would come first; either Madara had the Rinnegan and that's why he created Gedo Mazo, or, it awakened in him when he created Gedo Mazo.

Regardless, at that point, I think the Madara's chakra was severely drained.

So severely drained that his crude Harashima graft went crazy. It probably wasn't a quick death, because Madara did have time to entrust Tobi with some key points of his plan and have his rinnegan implanted into Nagato.

Now, the reason why this is pertinent?

Sasuke has proven to be compatible with Orochimaru's cells. Orochimaru spent along time researching Harashima, and probably used his research and research material to enhance himself, meaning he's at least partially Senju.
If Kabuto implants oro cells into Sasuke, he'll have access to Senju DNA, which will give him access to Izanagi, and, possibly, the Rinnegan. It depends somewhat in what order the person gains access to the Rinnegan, however, Sasuke will naturally be surpassing Madara during his living years because his Senju Implant will be a perfected implant (perfected by Kabutomaru), instead of a rough Harashima graft.

If Edo Madara is not ended with the Edo Tensei technique, something to this effect will have to happen.
Someone has to negate Gedo Mazo. If Edo Madara can summon a giant Soul stealing statue, on top of being an immortal edo tensei summon, a rinnegan user with possibly 5 possessed kage corpses, and having access to his perfected Harashima graft, there would be no way to stop him.

Anyway... flame me. It'll be fun... actually... nm. I'll post up a thread for this spec all on it's own in the morning.

:hey:

 

[home]

maybe but i doubt it

 

[black uchiha]

To debate the issue further gets into speculation and hypotheticals... but f*** it, that's how this thread started. Time for a long bit of speculation that you'll probably disagree with.

I think awakening the Rinnegan requires an EMS and Izanagi.

The EMS user uses Izanagi. Most people like to point out that Izanagi takes the sight away from the the Sharingans, but an Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan can never have it's light dimmed. Danzo did not have an arm full of EMSs and he was never going to get an EMS because he wasn't a full blooded Uchiha anyway.

Since Izanagi requires Senju DNA, this tends to be a major barrier to awakening the Rinnegan, and Madara was power hungry. Waiting for a descendant that had Senju and Uchiha DNA wasn't something he wanted to do.

In the narutoverse, Cell implantation is probably a new process. This is why Madara didn't put some random Senju DNA into himself, and why orochimaru's research was actually ground breaking.
Harashima's Mokuton was unique because it generated living plants that were self sustaining to some degree, and that made obtaining a living sample easier then using cells from a different Senju.

The fact that Harashima was the strongest Senju and Madara's rival was just a bonus.

Anyway.... after obtaining the Harashima cells, Madara could use Izanagi.

Now at this point there's a bit of a Chicken or the Egg problem... Madara used Izanagi to create Gedo Mazo. I don't know which would come first; either Madara had the Rinnegan and that's why he created Gedo Mazo, or, it awakened in him when he created Gedo Mazo.

Regardless, at that point, I think the Madara's chakra was severely drained.

So severely drained that his crude Harashima graft went crazy. It probably wasn't a quick death, because Madara did have time to entrust Tobi with some key points of his plan and have his rinnegan implanted into Nagato.

Now, the reason why this is pertinent?

Sasuke has proven to be compatible with Orochimaru's cells. Orochimaru spent along time researching Harashima, and probably used his research and research material to enhance himself, meaning he's at least partially Senju.
If Kabuto implants oro cells into Sasuke, he'll have access to Senju DNA, which will give him access to Izanagi, and, possibly, the Rinnegan. It depends somewhat in what order the person gains access to the Rinnegan, however, Sasuke will naturally be surpassing Madara during his living years because his Senju Implant will be a perfected implant (perfected by Kabutomaru), instead of a rough Harashima graft.

If Edo Madara is not ended with the Edo Tensei technique, something to this effect will have to happen.
Someone has to negate Gedo Mazo. If Edo Madara can summon a giant Soul stealing statue, on top of being an immortal edo tensei summon, a rinnegan user with possibly 5 possessed kage corpses, and having access to his perfected Harashima graft, there would be no way to stop him.

Anyway... flame me. It'll be fun... actually... nm. I'll post up a thread for this spec all on it's own in the morning.

:hey:

you said all that, but you said nothing lol. Cool story but we were talking about Sasuke surpassing madara, not how to get the rinn lol but :shrug:

Have fun with that as its not what we were talking about.

 

[Honord Sage]

Sasuke job is to make Naruto the strongest person out their, to make Naruto look good. To be in second place to Naruto's first place finish. You may not like this, you may not want this, but they're absolutely nothing you can do about it. Except quit reading Manga if you think Sasuke is the Hero of the story because your desires are not coming true.

 

[psukkar]

He will achieve the "True Sharingan" or lets say the "Sharinnegan", the Juubi's eye which the Sage of Six Paths inherited after being its host.

I mean come to think of it, what happens when a Jinchuuriki transforms or uses the tail-beast chakra? The eyes take the form of the beasts eyes right?

It makes perfect sense, when the Sage had his sons, he passed down the "eye power" to the elder, to the Uchiha, while the Sage's body was inherited by the younger son.

Just to clear anyones doubts what the "True Sharingan" is here is the panel -

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Your thoughts?

dude that pic u posted is just the so6p using his eye techs to control it befor he seals it within himself. Just like the so6p descents, the uchiha(hint hint) can do with summons and the nine tails. by the way the nine tails is from the juubi, I think u can see how it all fits just from this post.

To debate the issue further gets into speculation and hypotheticals... but f*** it, that's how this thread started. Time for a long bit of speculation that you'll probably disagree with.

I think awakening the Rinnegan requires an EMS and Izanagi.

The EMS user uses Izanagi. Most people like to point out that Izanagi takes the sight away from the the Sharingans, but an Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan can never have it's light dimmed. Danzo did not have an arm full of EMSs and he was never going to get an EMS because he wasn't a full blooded Uchiha anyway.

Since Izanagi requires Senju DNA, this tends to be a major barrier to awakening the Rinnegan, and Madara was power hungry. Waiting for a descendant that had Senju and Uchiha DNA wasn't something he wanted to do.

In the narutoverse, Cell implantation is probably a new process. This is why Madara didn't put some random Senju DNA into himself, and why orochimaru's research was actually ground breaking.
Harashima's Mokuton was unique because it generated living plants that were self sustaining to some degree, and that made obtaining a living sample easier then using cells from a different Senju.

The fact that Harashima was the strongest Senju and Madara's rival was just a bonus.

Anyway.... after obtaining the Harashima cells, Madara could use Izanagi.

Now at this point there's a bit of a Chicken or the Egg problem... Madara used Izanagi to create Gedo Mazo. I don't know which would come first; either Madara had the Rinnegan and that's why he created Gedo Mazo, or, it awakened in him when he created Gedo Mazo.

Regardless, at that point, I think the Madara's chakra was severely drained.

So severely drained that his crude Harashima graft went crazy. It probably wasn't a quick death, because Madara did have time to entrust Tobi with some key points of his plan and have his rinnegan implanted into Nagato.

Now, the reason why this is pertinent?

Sasuke has proven to be compatible with Orochimaru's cells. Orochimaru spent along time researching Harashima, and probably used his research and research material to enhance himself, meaning he's at least partially Senju.
If Kabuto implants oro cells into Sasuke, he'll have access to Senju DNA, which will give him access to Izanagi, and, possibly, the Rinnegan. It depends somewhat in what order the person gains access to the Rinnegan, however, Sasuke will naturally be surpassing Madara during his living years because his Senju Implant will be a perfected implant (perfected by Kabutomaru), instead of a rough Harashima graft.

If Edo Madara is not ended with the Edo Tensei technique, something to this effect will have to happen.
Someone has to negate Gedo Mazo. If Edo Madara can summon a giant Soul stealing statue, on top of being an immortal edo tensei summon, a rinnegan user with possibly 5 possessed kage corpses, and having access to his perfected Harashima graft, there would be no way to stop him.

Anyway... flame me. It'll be fun... actually... nm. I'll post up a thread for this spec all on it's own in the morning.

:hey:

just wana say gedo mazo is an rinnegan power exclusive, if u get the rinnegan u get gedo mazo simple as that. I doubt madara didnt anything but call ppl noobs and steal powers. if anyone created the so6p its the so6p but even that is unlikely. Gedo mazo seems devine to be constructed by a human. So it being a by product of the rinnegan that also is devine makes sense.

 

[leafeater]

dude that pic u posted is just the so6p using his eye techs to control it befor he seals it within himself. Just like the so6p descents, the uchiha(hint hint) can do with summons and the nine tails. by the way the nine tails is from the juubi, I think u can see how it all fits just from this post.

Possibly, but that's a bit presumptuous don't you think? There's no way to know that the converse isn't true; namely, that the Rikudou Sennin didn't just show up and the Jubi's eye wasn't already like that. At least note the speculation please...

Peace

 

[Aze]

That's Also probly , the reason why Uchiha MS can controll the Bjuu , Since they are related.

I believe , that Juubi had Tomoe eyes.

Sage had the Rinnegan

Son had the Sinnegan = Shraringan

Younger had Body = inherited Juubis strong chakra and Body atributes of hes Father + sealing techs = Mokuton etc.

 

[ZachC2]

Please bare in mind most of what you fan boys preach just idiotic hypothesis.. sasuke could get the rinnegan but his ability with EMS hasn't even been fully shown yet.