Sasuke was well above joninn level at 13

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Battle wise obviously. But all around? Far from it.
Sasuke at that age hasn't shown:

The ability to maintain high level speed/combat
Sensing or basic tracking
An intellect high enough to create your own ninjutsu.
Putting the mission above all else.
 

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Battle wise obviously. But all around? Far from it.
Sasuke at that age hasn't shown:

The ability to maintain high level speed/combat
Sensing or basic tracking
An intellect high enough to create your own ninjutsu.
Putting the mission above all else.
jonin kakashi put his friends above missions
 

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jonin kakashi put his friends above missions
False. Kakashi knows he needed obito or rin to complete the mission. (Much like sasuke is now when it comes to naruto)

He also knew they weren't going to kill her but use genjutsu to not only get info out of her but to bait dumbasses like obito that want to play hero.
 

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Hi naruto base i see many people stating that sasuke was not joninin level in part 1 but this is false ill prove this with a vs match up

Ok in this match we are going to pit a young kakashi who was made a joninin b4 sharingan against sasuke at the fv

Now this match up is incredibly one sided and its clear who wins but ill put the stats so people realize

Sasuke has
3 tomoe sharingan which means perfect reactions to anything kakashi has to offer
A better chidori than kakashi without a sharingan
High level taijutsu at lees level with his weights off
Multiple katons and high level shuriken jutsu
Curse mark which is not even needed in this fight
Kakashi has
Incomplete chidori
White chakara blade

Sasuke doesnt even have to use his curse mark in this if he does its not even close so ill say this again at 13 sasuke was well above joninin level
Wrong. You seem to forget a few things and got some things wrong. First, Lee's taijutsus doesn't increase with weights off, his speed does but Lee does gain access to some taijutsus moves with each gate that he opens, something Sasuke hasn't shown to do. Sasuke was new with his 3 tomoes sharingan so he wouldn't have perfect reaction as he does in shippuden when he mastered it. Sasuke and Naruto's level, with Curse and one tail, is at chunin level. Kakashi was jounin level and his speed would be on that level as well since jutsu requires high speed so trained in speed, he was the one to train Sasuke in increasing his speed to be able to use Chidori.

Kakashi's chidori is in fact stronger than Sasuke since as a jounin he would have better chakra control, but Sasuke is able to strike the chidori accurately and is able to read his opponent's movement to evade possible counters. Sasuke however is slower than a jounin so even if he's able to see it, he lacks the speed to react as well as he would to genin and chunin level. Kakashi is a genius who moved up the ranks in the same time it took Sasuke to become a Genin. Kakashi was 5 when he became genin and chunin at 6 while Sasuke was 12 when he got genin.

What do you think Kakashi did in the time from chunin at 6 to jounin level? He would have been training to further increase his skills. He was fighting other possible chunin level ninjas at 6, Sasuke was 12-13 when he was doing that. The skill gap between both is obvious. Kakashi has more battle experience, higher skills in taijutsu and ninjutsu. He also was taught the rasengan remember? he couldn't add his lightning nature to it so created chidori. Being able to use resengan alone shows Kakashi's great chakra control since adult chakra called it extremely advance shape manipulation when he was training Naruto in Shippuden.

Kakashi also has skills using ninja weapons such as his blade which he can use to deflect other weapons. Sasuke would need to go CS mode 2 just to gain the power to try and face Kakashi. The Sharingan is the only thing that is really giving Sasuke a shot, without it, Sasuke would stand no chance. I don't know where a chunin level ninja beating a Jounin level ninja who has more experience, higher battle tactics (due to experience), more speed, better Taijutsu skills, better chakra control and is more well adept in knowing other jutsus. Kakashi said Sasuke reminds him of himself, so both would have similar battle tactics except Kakashi is more experiences (been on more missions)
 
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Sasuke was stronger than most of the Jonins battle wise.But it's not all about a battle.Sasuke hasn't shown great leadership, nor great intelect at that age.Intelect and leadership , mentallity , calmness,ability to carry out a mission determines if you become a jonin or not, not your skill in a battle.
 

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I disagree all of sasukes skills at FV were low level. ANY jounin would completely wreck him at that point.

Now him and kakashi were prolly about equal, i dont watch anime so i dont have much info on younger kakashi.
 

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hes right in a way. lets be honest,vote sasuke whoops 13 yr old kakashi and has better feats yet kakashi was a jounin. but like someone said kakashi got pushed higher than necessary due to war times and that is valid. but in terms of carrying out a mission, he wasnt there yet.
 
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