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Kishis words: Unmastered Rinnegan Sasuke with 8.5 bijuus= Unmastered RSM Naruto with half of Kurama and NE.
Sasukeboys words: they're equals Lol
Sasuke was the true underdog.
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Sasukeboys words: they're equals Lol
Mikeuhsomething36
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Naruto should also be able to display chakra chains, were them chains at though? I never said Naruto didn't inherit anything from his mom...i merely stated that genetics don't work like that and THIS is coming from a genetist...naruto wouldn't get 100% of his abilities from kushina, he may get a BULK but not 100%, 75% at best. The sage already DE-freaking-bunked this by stating that the child is not ALWAYS as strong as the parents a testament that base Naruto is not as strong as base kushina or base Minato for OBVIOUS reasons. Just like how hagoromo and hamura are not as strong as prime kaguya or how indra and ashura are not as strong as hagoromo or how the fourth raikage is not as strong as the third raikage. Naruto only surpassed his parents in craft and possibly other things but he TRULY outshined them when given his power up from hagoromo that wasn't natural unlike Minato and kushina, undeniable facts are undeniable
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Oh yeah, I got that too. I was just commenting back on what you just said.ExactlyI don't get why the average sasuke fan or Naruto fan can't comprehend this, and I didn't mean for it to be jst restricted to you, I just meant in general. If Naruto was a senju them being equal would be such a negative factor
Also I don't know man, people like to pick a "best" or "#1" but it's obviously stated that it's a tie between the two.
Glad to see someone here with actual logic.
Mikeuhsomething36
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The purpose of this post is because...? Bijuu susano was manhandling Naruto until he got hit by both the concussion of both his OWN strike combined with the two rasenshurikens of the entire valley's nature energy enhanced.
you're just being a try hard at this point. Kishi stated then to be equal unless you don't read his interviews not my words, they are kishis, I'm also surprised how you take one piece and try to debunk it and fail, you yourself know that your post holds no weight . Kishi never stated that the susano bijuu avatar and kurama avatar were equal in fact he displayed the susano bijuu avatar annihilating :leaf: the only reason the avatar got destroyed was because again it took the bulk of it's own strike plus naruto's enhanced rasenahurikens which is IMMENSE collateral damage the fact that sasuke even survived it, was something. Naruto as well but this is due to kurama ashura avatar. *sigh* fanbiys these days in being completely unbiased kishi said they are equal therefore they are, unless your name is Misaki Kishimoto I suggest you don't try to debunk what the creator says with your "logic"
Daybreaker
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Sasuke with 2 rinnegans mastered won't take down a full powered 9 bijuu naruto. Even though Sasuke is smart and has "something up his sleeve" doesn't mean he can outsmart naruto.In terms of raw power kaguya also destroys both Naruto and sasuke, but sasuke's Tomoe rinnegan equates to if not stronger than two rinnegan eyes just saying. But I get what you mean, if sasuke went head to head against full health full bijuu mode Naruto with no clear mind he would get annihilated, as the power of the bijuu would just be that much, a lot. But that isn't to say sasuke wouldn't have something up his sleeve, as when hashirama was able to against all odds handle both madara and the kyuubi a factor that should be completely against him. Just because someone is in an unfavorable circumstances does not mean they autolose that's just close minded and basic thinking.ecen obito went inside madara and took the bijuu out something no one expected so sasuke shouldn't be far off as beginning arc two sasuke managed to suppress the kyuubi. We don't know what type of powers a mastered rinnegan sasuke would even have but I'm sure sasuke would have something due to the versatility of his arsenal plus if you can make a susano chidori anything is possible. Naruto isn't an imbecile ( battle wise) he's just crafty, it's not like sasuke can't suppress the bijuu or is just completely powerless before him as sasuke will perform feats for the lack of power.konohamaru managed to take down a path of pein albeit it was distracted I think a feat is still a feat, anything is possible after that
Mikeuhsomething36
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Doesn't mean he can't either
and yep I also bet madara couldn't be taken down by surprise by black zetsu either....oh wait why do you guys even bother anymore? Kishi said they're equal yet both fan bases can't accept this, this was amusing at first but now it's just sad none of my points have been refuted it debunked and I'm still killing the game with kishi backing me up. If kishi didn't say they are equal I would understand but ffs they are, you can't say something can't happen as you ARE NOT the creator of the manga nor are you Misaki Kishimoto, anything can happen, you don't even know what sasuke with full mastery of rinnegan can do, all you have is assumptions that are pretty bias in retrospect, just because a situation looks impossible does NOT mean it IS impossible, common knowledge is Apperently not so common this coffee though Daybreaker
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Black zetstu is intelligent and has been living for many ages. He is intelligent enough to take down madara. And Mr Kakuzu who fought 1st hokage and almost lived for a century got outsmarted by Naruto. Sasuke can outsmart naruto? Don't make me laugh.Doesn't mean he can't either
Daybreaker
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Kishi this kishi that. Wtf did kishi say? LOL.Doesn't mean he can't either
Unmastered rinnegan + 9 kidnapped Bijuu = 1 half Kurama Naruto with RSM. That is fact. THis one did not refute that.
However, 9 Bijuu + RSM Naruto vs. 2 mastered rinnegan Sasuke will result in a rape stomp fest in Naruto's favor.
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Hidden Ninjutsu requires another Uzumaki help, they aren't KKG which you can automatically inherit.
NW said:
Genetics in fictional verse and real world don't work the same way.
Manga shows us that Naruro inherited all Kushina abilities.
Firstly, Sage was talking about Naruto's "lack of talent", not about his power.
Secondly, Due to his Uzumaki genes he was learned SM which shits on any form of Kushina.
The Last base Naruto clearly surpassed any form of his parents at everything besides fuinjutsu and S/T by obvious reasons.
NE wasn't power up for Naruto.The purpose of this post is because...? Bijuu susano was manhandling Naruto until he got hit by both the concussion of both his OWN strike combined with the two rasenshurikens of the entire valley's nature energy enhanced.
Kishi stated then to be equal unless you don't read his interviews
No single word than they will be equal "yawn"Kishi said:
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UzumakiWade
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How the hell did this thread change from Sasuke being the dog down under to debating who would be stronger?
You forgot to add:They were both nerfed, un mastered rinnegan sasuke ties with non intent to kill serious Naruto, mastered rinnegan sasuke in VOTE2 would just cause Naruto to fight with intent to kill and they'd still even out
I. No bijuu chakra besides Kurama
II. No clones until BM mode
III. No speed capabilities on Naruto's side when we know he can strike people as fast as Kaguya
IV. No Truth Seeking Ball variants, such as shields, etc when we know he can perform as such.
V. Frog Kata would have been interesting to see in his RSM mode
Daybreaker
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When mike claimed that Sasuke = Naruto when in fact Current Naruto > Current Sasuke or even Sasuke with 2 Rinnegans mastered. LOL. Of course everyone can agree that Naruto RSM = Sasuke with untrained rinnegan + 9 bijuus.
Yea you are right, one tomoed rinnegan .... Isnt that one tiny thing is a dream to every one in the world ?
Isnt that one lil tiny thing is the reason millions died for it ?
Isnt that one small little cute tiny thing is the dream to every god villain ?
Daybreaker
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Doesn't matter. He kidnapped what was rightfully Naruto's. He basically nerved naruto and amped himself. yet he couldn't win. LOL.
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Rsm and rinnegan have infinite potentials, so they'll keep getting better and better. But you can't compare the abilities of 9 bijuus with an eye, even though we all agree that rinnegan is op, the bijuus ability will simply outclass it.
Mikeuhsomething36
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My taking advantage of resource pist already negged this, I addressed this already, refrain from restating what has always been addressed
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Mikeuhsomething36
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Hidden Ninjutsu requires another Uzumaki help, they aren't KKG which you can automatically inherit.
Scans and proof
Genetics in fictional verse and real world don't work the same way.
Manga shows us that Naruro inherited all Kushina abilities.
Me:the way it does states that this statement is not true, give me scans that say he inherited ALL of kushina's abilities down to the letter, he may have gained a large amount but not 100%, you have no scans
Firstly, Sage was talking about Naruto's "lack of talent", not about his power.
Secondly, Due to his Uzumaki genes he was learned SM which shits on any form of Kushina.
You mean like how ashura had a "lack if talent" I.e. Lack of power, also part 1 Naruto completely disregards this as Naruto was born talentless like ashura which he equated to oiwrr for obvious reasons as talented people like indra are equated to strength
The Last base Naruto clearly surpassed any form of his parents at everything besides fuinjutsu and S/T by obvious reasons.
Me:You don't read do you? The last Naruto was clearly AFTER Naruto acquired the sage's yang so if course he'd be stronger I already said that in my post
NE wasn't power up for Naruto.
You and your fan fiction with that logic I guess sage mode isn't a power up for Naruto either and neither is bijuu susano for saauke, nice fan fiction bro, 0/10 would nit read again
No single word than they will be equal "yawn"[/Q completely rebuts this
Still not a thing rebutted