Sasuke was the true underdog.
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Unmasterd? And yet he wS able to use CT and genjutsu on the first try with no problem, and most of all he used Pertra almost perfectly absorbing power From the bijuu in such a distance lol the guy looked like a master in my honest opinionThey were both nerfed, un mastered rinnegan sasuke ties with non intent to kill serious Naruto, mastered rinnegan sasuke in VOTE2 would just cause Naruto to fight with intent to kill and they'd still even out. It wouldn't make sense for an unmastered rinnegan sasuke to equal an intent to kill Naruto as that would just imply mastered rinnegan sasuke destroys Naruto when they are both equal. Why can't people just take them being equal is kishi's own words so hard to comprehend
Also he was serious
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this guy is a clown. Sasuke always beat naruto. Sasuke was only underdog during the 4th shinobi war when Naruto got huge amps and sasuke got jelly.
Rest assured, Naruto is way more powerful than Sasuke now. He has 9 bijuu + RM + KSM, etc. Not even 2 rinnegan sasuke can beat him that was why sasuke had to kidnapp all the Bijuu to match kurama naruto. Even then it was a draw.
Rest assured, Naruto is way more powerful than Sasuke now. He has 9 bijuu + RM + KSM, etc. Not even 2 rinnegan sasuke can beat him that was why sasuke had to kidnapp all the Bijuu to match kurama naruto. Even then it was a draw.
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False, Naruto was the true underdog. For most of the first half of part 2 Naruto was trying to catch up to Sasuke in terms of power and in part 1 Sasuke was looked up to by majority of his class while many considered Naruto a failure. And the kid that everyone laughed at when he said he was going to be Hokage and save Sasuke, lived up to his words.
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Uhhh and naruto was a master at rsm? Rofl. Please stop man.They were both nerfed, un mastered rinnegan sasuke ties with non intent to kill serious Naruto, mastered rinnegan sasuke in VOTE2 would just cause Naruto to fight with intent to kill and they'd still even out
Naruto had just learned bm the day before.. and then got rsm.. something he never had before..
So why do you people only say sasuke hadnt mastered the rinnegan.. because naruto wasnt a pro at rsm either yet.
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Did you even read the part where Kurama stated that because sasuke's rinnegan was still new he couldn't attack AND ansirb naruto's technique at the same time
?Sasuke didn't master his rinnegan because then that's be disgraceful to nagato fans bot that anyone cares for nagato anymore but for saauke to be renowned as a rinnegan master he'd have to be hagoromo mastery level not to speak of nagato. Nagato is a prime example of someone who has "mastered" the rinnegan, it has been shown that the way sasuke uses his rinnegan is different from predecessors.
For example kurana hinted that sasuke could absorb while attacking a feat that not even nagato or madara performed or attempted to as they had to absorb first then attack not in conjunction. Sasuke had a stronger CT versatility wise, and people are going to say "Oh but madara's was bigger lol" get smacked to anyone who thought this as madara was a juubi Jin and sasuke was not plus sasuke was spamming high level and chakra taxing techniques but did a tech that made nagato bleed when he was low, casually
and even bigger rocks.If saauke mastered the rinnegan, sasuke's asura path and other paths would be a tad different just like his deva was. Even the sage, son of kaguya, and a rinnegan master in his own right was surprised when sasuke managed with a glance to control all the bijuu and that wasn't even mastered rinnegan sasuke :leaf: "Not even my final form", a mastered. Rinnegan sasuke would be atrocious for Naruto to face because then Naruto would need to pull a hashirama and fight with intent to kill, and even then they still equal out. Can you imagine asura sasuke facing Naruto? The amount of weaponry sasuke would pull in conjunction to his other techs would be insane and we saw how strong an asura from pein was and that wasn't even the ORIGINAL body. And sasuke is above nagato for me to even say sasuke evens out is a testament that I respect kishi's own words unlike sasuke fapboys and Naruto fapboys, this isn't my manga, this is kishi's
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master or not it doesn't matter. Sasuke had to kidnap all the bijuus to fight Naruto.Did you even read the part where Kurama stated that because sasuke's rinnegan was still new he couldn't attack AND ansirb naruto's technique at the same time
Sasuke didn't master his rinnegan because then that's be disgraceful to nagato fans bot that anyone cares for nagato anymore but for saauke to be renowned as a rinnegan master he'd have to be hagoromo mastery level not to speak of nagato. Nagato is a prime example of someone who has "mastered" the rinnegan, it has been shown that the way sasuke uses his rinnegan is different from predecessors.
For example kurana hinted that sasuke could absorb while attacking a feat that not even nagato or madara performed or attempted to as they had to absorb first then attack not in conjunction. Sasuke had a stronger CT versatility wise, and people are going to say "Oh but madara's was bigger lol" get smacked to anyone who thought this as madara was a juubi Jin and sasuke was not plus sasuke was spamming high level and chakra taxing techniques but did a tech that made nagato bleed when he was low, casually
If saauke mastered the rinnegan, sasuke's asura path and other paths would be a tad different just like his deva was. Even the sage, son of kaguya, and a rinnegan master in his own right was surprised when sasuke managed with a glance to control all the bijuu and that wasn't even mastered rinnegan sasuke :leaf: "Not even my final form", a mastered. Rinnegan sasuke would be atrocious for Naruto to face because then Naruto would need to pull a hashirama and fight with intent to kill, and even then they still equal out. Can you imagine asura sasuke facing Naruto? The amount of weaponry sasuke would pull in conjunction to his other techs would be insane and we saw how strong an asura from pein was and that wasn't even the ORIGINAL body. And sasuke is above nagato for me to even say sasuke evens out is a testament that I respect kishi's own words unlike sasuke fapboys and Naruto fapboys, this isn't my manga, this is kishi's
Fact is if they both fought without sasuke kidnapping bijuus, naruto would have wrecked and shit stomp on Sasuke. Even 2 mastered rinnegan sasuke won't match against Naruto at that point. haha
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I agree even history does not acknowledged sasuke feats during the war or how helped saved the world according the final page of the manga Zzz. Truly an underdog :heh:
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I could care less about him being a pro at RSM but in a blunt sense yes, but allow me to return your logic and debunk it, have you forgotten that Naruto when he acquired the yang from hagoromo also acquired the ability to universally comprehend all things/chakra???? why do Naruto fans only use this logic when it suits their argument
. At least Naruto had a precedent to even use RSM unlike sasuke who had to learn from scratch and observation how to use his rinnegan . Naruto mastered the RSM because it wasn't so far off from BM itself in terms of characteristics, at first Naruto was so-so as when he reacted to madara's limbo and he didn't even know how he was able to move that fast, the comprehension of all things kicked in when that RSM came to be, Naruto was casual when he found that he could fly, Naruto, he who couldn't even size up how much chakra the juubi had was able to comprehend that kaguya's was stronger than the juubi despite him saying that the juubi's chakra can't be measured. Naruto had a heck of a lot better understanding of his abilities than sasuke and you can't even deny this for obvious reasons What precedent did sasuke have prior to getting his rinnegan? Tell me, what EMS? Lol no, that wasn't going to tell him his rinnegan abilities, what madara? Obito? They barely even displayed the rinnegan to it's full ability unlike nagato. What hagoromo? :leaf:? The only thing sasuke used was amenojikara and notice how at first he always had his eye on his rinnegan to keep it open, he had to test the waters. Naruto had a precedent namely KCM and BM and universal comprehension of all things unlike sasuke. Who used mostly his EMS abilities and amenojikara that he found on a whim
so now pls tell me more about how Naruto hadn't mastered RSM and wasn't a better master at his power at the time than sasuke and how he had less precedents or how he had to learn from scratch in comparison to sasuke you have no proof to back up your claim that naruto hadnt mastered his powers by VOTE2, besides, what more could the gy even do with his power? and the fsct he didnt have an intent to kill? like I said you're only nerfing Naruto too much, the complementation is:Naruto mastered his powers but didn't have an intent to kill, sasuke didn't master his power but had an intent to kill.
On an unrelated note, why are people talking about Double rinnegan sasuke when sasuke's one equates to if not stronger than two rinnegan eyes
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During part 1 Naruto beat Gaara and even Sasuke thought he was weaker. Once Naruto got SM he wasn't the underdog anymore, at leats for a while. Once he admitted that he couldn't win he was the underdog, to an extent. Then there's the war arc, which I'd agree with.RSM is the only thing that matters and we already saw that.
By the end of part 1, Sasuke was the underdog, before Naruto was. In the beginning of Shippuden sure, but once Naruto got SM he wasn't.
A minority. Most people don't think that.
He did. Naruto doesn't have much more to learn because the Bijuu do everything for him. This is seen when he could implement the Bijuus KKG into RS by simply asking, RS being his most complex technique. He could heal Kakashi's eye without even trying and knew how to shape the gudoudamas immediately.
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Explain your logic because this is not logical in any way.
He got SM by training for how long?
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I see you cannot rebut or debunk my RSM statement
I'm nit disputing hat he had to kidnap the bijuu to beat Naruto but it's just Naruto fanboys are losing credibility, first they said indra's arrow would get wrekt by the two rasenshurikens, it was a tie as I said even back then, why sasuke was about to give the blow, they said it would be a kage bunshin, I saw no smoke point is Naruto and sasuke were fighting on equal footing even before Naruto absorbed all that chakra from nature via kurama. And a bijuu susano was giving Naruto a run for his money, even kurama who said it was a bit much later said if he or Naruto used any less then it would've been gg for them . Naruto used strategy to counter an opponent who at the time was stronger than him so why can't sasuke do the same? If anything this seems bias. Sasuke also has preta so why can't he again? Asura avatar Naruto was just there for the same reason why Naruto at twelve needed a clone to make a rasengan to handle the power the more arms the merrier. People may say "then what does sasuke do to nature those two rasenshurikens if they were thrown or if about nature buffed Naruto?" sasuke's susano has proved to be rather fast so it would dodge via amenojikara easily with Naruto or the battle would continue to stalemate until someone out did the other. We can only assume but in the end kishi said they are equal meaning sasuke would obviously use strategy while against a stronger opponent. All people think about is power but they forget intelligence and cunning are a factor whereas sasuke us smarter than Naruto even with lack of chakra supply that Naruto has massive amounts of. With that logic kaguya should've negged both Naruto and sasuke but they outsmarted and defeated her they are equal kishi's words>any fapboy logic even sasuke fapboys and Naruto fapboys