[Discussion] Sasuke was nerfed

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I know there are too many of these threads nowadays. I just made a comment about that on some other thread but I had to make this. So the topic, "Sasuke was nerfed" or "Naruto got an asspull". either really.

Now before I continue, I concede that Naruto = Sasuke.

I repeat.

NARUTO === SASUKE

That was pretty obvious from the start of the fight. They had been fighting for almost a day, or sunset till sunrise. And they were evenly matched.
Then sasuke went and f***ed up the power levels.

I admit. When Sasuke captured the bijuu, I did not expect him to use them. After all, he wanted to destroy them. So I thought he would not use their chakra as to him they are the source of all the problems. But he did.

He absorbed Soooo much chakra from all 9 bijuu(basically ten tails chakra) that it transformed his susanoo. People have absorbed chakra before, madara, pein, nagato. The only time absorbing chakra made a visible change to the user of the technique was when nagato sucked 7 tails worth of chakra cloak from bee. And That reguvenated his little body. This completely transformed Susanoo'.Compare sasuke's susanoo size to an average body size. So you can imagine how much chakra we are talking about.

yet kurama absorbs sage chakra for maybe a few seconds and he says he's taken more than enough to match what sasuke absorbed, I can't understand it.
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This is where the problem is. I don't know how to classify this. You may pick either. But sasuke was nerfed. Specifically, the ten tails chakra he absorbed was nerfed. and simultaneously Naruto/kurama pulled something unbelievable out of their collective ass. Cuz he somehow absorbed in a few seconds, enough sage chakra to match all that chakra sasuke pulled. Remember earlier in the war, when naruto had to wait a while for kurama to gather chakra? and that chakra was nothing compared to this, yet kurama could gather this in an instant.

If kishi wanted to make the fight end in a stalemate without plot problems, he should have found a way to remove the 9 bijuu from the equation. After seeing how destructive the ten tails power was during the war, it's just unbelivable that Naruto was able to match it.

They were more minor nerfing. Like how Sasuke was supposedly out of chakra yet he managed to keep the bijuu restrained and in CT way up in the air. And how suddenly amateratsu become blockable. but this is really minor(even believable) compared to the other thing.

Maybe its cuz the fight was rushed.
 

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Kishi made sasuke loose his sword for a reason.
 

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Or the chakra Sasuke absorbed wasn't a lot but a bit of each.
 

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Maybe. As far as your Amaterasu comment goes, not the first time it's been blocked: Tobi did it (somehow) and Nagato got rid of it with Shinra Tensei.
 

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Or the chakra Sasuke absorbed wasn't a lot but a bit of each.

This would explain it. Naruto already had some of each of the beasts mixed with his own chakra, so depending on how much Sasuke took, he could easily match it. What really bugged me is how Kurama was suddenly able to make Senjutsu Chakra.
 

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Dude. We all know this. Nothing can be done now. The manga is call Naruto. Naruto must win in the end. Accept it and move on.
 

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Maybe. As far as your Amaterasu comment goes, not the first time it's been blocked: Tobi did it (somehow) and Nagato got rid of it with Shinra Tensei.

We know tobi just did kamui. And shinra tensei makes sense. but in this case, It said the bijuu chakra was protecting naruto. Yet sasuke has used amaterasu on bee. And bee burned. Had to cut off Part of his body to escape. More importantly, the juubi had to do the same thing. Got caught by amaterasu. Had to cut the body part off. Naruto just flicked it off. ???
 

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This again, every character gets nerfed at one point or another

look at kaguya, logically team 7 should not have lasted 5 mins let alone defeat her
 

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This would explain it. Naruto already had some of each of the beasts mixed with his own chakra, so depending on how much Sasuke took, he could easily match it. What really bugged me is how Kurama was suddenly able to make Senjutsu Chakra.

And be so bloody good at it too. I mean him and naruto are pretty much the same now. So i dont question it. Kurama could give away chakra. Then naruto seemed to learn it.
 

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This would explain it. Naruto already had some of each of the beasts mixed with his own chakra, so depending on how much Sasuke took, he could easily match it. What really bugged me is how Kurama was suddenly able to make Senjutsu Chakra.
Probably a trait from Juubi. :sdo:
 

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This again, every character gets nerfed at one point or another

look at kaguya, logically team 7 should not have lasted 5 mins let alone defeat her

That shit really pissed me off. Kaguya should've casted genjutsu on them all and kill them before they release from it.
 

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Or the chakra Sasuke absorbed wasn't a lot but a bit of each.

This doesn't look like a little.
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And kurama says " a big on is coming." Sounds like a lot of chakra

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This again, every character gets nerfed at one point or another

look at kaguya, logically team 7 should not have lasted 5 mins let alone defeat her

Yeah. But it's sasuke and naruto. You don't mess up stuff like that. Considering how many threads have been made about that fight. Including this one lol :)
 

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Yeah bro we know but if it makes you feel better wind > lightning so that helped as well.
 

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Or the chakra Sasuke absorbed wasn't a lot but a bit of each.
This my friend^^ In order to have the full chakra of the nine bijuu and more you must become the Jin of the Juubi. This way you have full access. Also, Madara and Kaguya were nerfed the most beyond anybody.
 

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If you refer back, when kurama wasn't holding Naruto back he could absorb natural energy much faster. Add a tail beast fueled with Rikodou chakra, and the results are astronomical.
 

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That shit really pissed me off. Kaguya should've casted genjutsu on them all and kill them before they release from it.

She doesn't even need genjutsu, her chakra fists should have been more than enough. I mean even the sage(who gave them their powers) admitted inferiority.

Logically kaguya should have beat them so bad it wouldn't even be funny. It should have been worse than how frieza beat vegeta

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Kurama may have been able to absorb natural energy because Naruto has Rikudi's Senjutsu, Kurama being able to use it being a trait of that, and him being Naruto's TB.
And when did it ever say Kurama began to collect the natural energy? He may not have did it instantly.

This being a guess, don't take it seriously lol. And excuse me if someone already said it, I didn't read everything.
 

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This doesn't look like a little.
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And kurama says " a big on is coming." Sounds like a lot of chakra

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That's because he mixed it all together into PS.
 

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She doesn't even need genjutsu, her chakra fists should have been more than enough. I mean even the sage(who gave them their powers) admitted inferiority.

Logically kaguya should have beat them so bad it wouldn't even be funny. It should have been worse than how frieza beat vegeta

This. But instead we got this:
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Terrible, terrible writing. That's exactly why you shouldn't introduce such an OP villain to the story.
 
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