Sasuke vs Nidaime Tsuchikage & Nidaime Mizukage

[VolatileSoul]

Sasuke can handle Mizukage easily. He can tank all of his attacks, even Joki Boi, and I assume his sharingan can see through the clam genjutsu. He'd have much more difficulty with Muu though. The problem is the disappearing then Jinton. I don't know if sharingan can see him when he becomes invisible, but the fact that his chakra disappears when he does, I don't think it can. He could try to track Muu by noticing the slightest change in his surroundings, something sharingan would make easy, the fact that Muu can fly and avoid interacting with his surroundings, pretty much throws this out the window. While he can't use Jinton when invisible(even if he could, the jinton would still be visible) Sasuke wouldn't know when Muu became visible and starts an attack, and if he doesn't find Muu the second he becomes visible, Jinton will end him. Even if he could find a way to beat Muu, there's a chance the splitting technique will allow Muu to survive, and he could easily become invisible, sneak up on Sasuke with his guard down thinking he's won, and shank him.

Basically, I'm saying I favor the Kage's to win more times than not.

 

[Draegod]

Zabuza creates the mist with chakra. He doesn't pump it out like the clam does. Your also assuming the chakra will block his vision when its not suggested to do so. Chakra is translucent anyway, Look at Oboro's Genjutsu.

And again, Manga fact; until the Clam is gone you will forever see Mirages (genjutsu)! Sharingan is not immune to genjutsu, Fact!

Sharingan cannot see through Continuos Chakra everywhere (Zabuza)! The clam is on a much higher level! Because not only is it chakra in the environment, it also affects your 5 senses! I have manga facts to back my claims up! Where is yours?

 

[Gakido]

And again, Manga fact; until the Clam is gone you will forever see Mirages (genjutsu)! Sharingan is not immune to genjutsu, Fact!

Sharingan cannot see through Continuos Chakra everywhere (Zabuza)! The clam is on a much higher level! Because not only is it chakra in the environment, it also affects your 5 senses! I have manga facts to back my claims up! Where is yours?

Yet it sees through genjutsu.

And on what premise are you comparing it to Zabuza's genjutsu? theres no canon implications they are the same.

 

[Microsword57]

Mu is not a problem in this match-up considering he cannot use Jinton while invisible. Sasuke could summon Aoda to find Mu while he is invisible. Snakes can use their tongues to find temperature and smell[

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]. Sasuke kills Mu with a Susanoo Arrow and continues to fight the 2nd Mizukage.

 

[End of Days]

Mu is not a problem in this match-up considering he cannot use Jinton while invisible. Sasuke could summon Aoda to find Mu while he is invisible. Snakes can use their tongues to find temperature and smell[

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]. Sasuke kills Mu with a Susanoo Arrow and continues to fight the 2nd Mizukage.

it so happens that low level iwagakure ninjas can completely erase scent and probably temperature too, the only way to find them is by track the movements in air currents and sound

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[Draegod]

Yet it sees through genjutsu.

And on what premise are you comparing it to Zabuza's genjutsu? theres no canon implications they are the same.

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Yet it has been shown through out the manga that Sharingan cannot break all genjutsu! You like many other beginners do not understand the concept behind Genjutsu nor know how the sharingan works. So i would expect you to understand what i stated even though i broke it down so that even a baby could understand! lol

Reread what i wrote slowly... It is simple!

Mu is not a problem in this match-up considering he cannot use Jinton while invisible. Sasuke could summon Aoda to find Mu while he is invisible. Snakes can use their tongues to find temperature and smell[

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]. Sasuke kills Mu with a Susanoo Arrow and continues to fight the 2nd Mizukage.

Now this guy!.... This guy used Logic and a strategy Sasuke could actually use! Take notes from this guy! (even though he still looses!)

 

[Draegod]

it so happens that low level iwagakure ninjas can completely erase scent and probably temperature too, the only way to find them is by track the movements in air currents and sound

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The temp' situation is a bit spl imo. I dont think a ninja could lower their body Temp, would they die or something along those lines? Its a iffy topic dont you think?

 

[slimreaper]

That is a one time only Genjutsu, and even then he was so focused at the genjutsu, that even Dairu blitz and could have killed him if not for suigetsu and Juugo! DO not compare what the clam can do (battle field wide Genjutsu), to a ninjas using a Genjutsu that affects 1 ninja at a time (Cee)!

Fact is, it is a forever genjutsu untill the clam is gone (Manga)! Its like trying to get dry in the middle of the Pool! No matter how hard you try, the water will get you wet till you get out of the Pool!

Muu can easily react and turn the jinton off, it isnt slow! He is never getting hit By Ama' like the way you think he would!

that was a battlefield jutsu it got jugo as well, it would have gotten suigetsu if he was with them

 

[Microsword57]

it so happens that low level iwagakure ninjas can completely erase scent and probably temperature too, the only way to find them is by track the movements in air currents and sound

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I spoke this mainly in reference to temperatureI do not see Mu lowering his body temperature and never was it said he does or could. No pun intended.

 

[Draegod]

that was a battlefield jutsu it got jugo as well, it would have gotten suigetsu if he was with them

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No it wasnt, otherwise the samurai, Aye and Dairu would have been caught in the Genjutsu aswell! And it would have never stopped, Cee couldnt make the genjutsu forever go on till god knows when now could he???

 

[slimreaper]

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No it wasnt, otherwise the samurai, Aye and Dairu would have been caught in the Genjutsu aswell! And it would have never stopped, Cee couldnt make the genjutsu forever go on till god knows when now could he???

so he can choose who he puts in it. trollkage probably could to if he was in control of his body

 

[End of Days]

The temp' situation is a bit spl imo. I dont think a ninja could lower their body Temp, would they die or something along those lines? Its a iffy topic dont you think?

I spoke this mainly in reference to temperatureI do not see Mu lowering his body temperature and never was it said he does or could. No pun intended.

He probably cant but i will check in any case

 

[Gakido]

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Yet it has been shown through out the manga that Sharingan cannot break all genjutsu! You like many other beginners do not understand the concept behind Genjutsu nor know how the sharingan works. So i would expect you to understand what i stated even though i broke it down so that even a baby could understand! lol

Reread what i wrote slowly... It is simple!




Now this guy!.... This guy used Logic and a strategy Sasuke could actually use! Take notes from this guy! (even though he still looses!)

Maybe if you spent as much time on constructing a quality post as you did on trying to make it seem like your some amazing debater you would actually have a decent argument. Even a child should be able to tell that the Genjutsu Kabuto used was an audio genjutsu which a sharingan cannot counter. The Sharingan is tailored to seeing through visual genjutsu, which Kabuto's is not.

I also see you gave up on countering the other point.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Muu Stomps This match splitingnd dust release then ok

 

[Draegod]

Maybe if you spent as much time on constructing a quality post as you did on trying to make it seem like your some amazing debater you would actually have a decent argument. Even a child should be able to tell that the Genjutsu Kabuto used was an audio genjutsu which a sharingan cannot counter. The Sharingan is tailored to seeing through visual genjutsu, which Kabuto's is not.

I also see you gave up on countering the other point.

Reread what i stated slowly! It isnt hard to understand! You cant counter what i stated. lmao

How can the sharingan see through pure chakra everywhere? While they are in a continuous genjutsu?

The clam Genjutsu isnt just Visual! It is Battle wide that affects everything you do!The mirages will not stop unless the clam is gone; Manga fact! No disputing!

 

[slimreaper]

Reread what i stated slowly! It isnt hard to understand! You cant counter what i stated. lmao

How can the sharingan see through pure chakra everywhere? While they are in a continuous genjutsu?

The clam Genjutsu isnt just Visual! It is Battle wide that affects everything you do!The mirages will not stop unless the clam is gone; Manga fact! No disputing!

considering the clam has to continuously spew its stuff, what stops sasuke from determining where the clam is based on where he sees the chakra moving faster that in other areas?

 

[Draegod]

considering the clam has to continuously spew its stuff, what stops sasuke from determining where the clam is based on where he sees the chakra moving faster that in other areas?

Its constant, no matter what you do, it will all be a mirage! manga fact! Untill you find the Clam via direct Contact, you will never escape the genjutsu while your in it! Its manga fact!

Sharingan cannot see through pure chakra, Zabuza proved that on more than one occasion. What is there to talk about?

 

[Gakido]

Reread what i stated slowly! It isnt hard to understand! You cant counter what i stated. lmao

How can the sharingan see through pure chakra everywhere? While they are in a continuous genjutsu?

The clam Genjutsu isnt just Visual! It is Battle wide that affects everything you do!The mirages will not stop unless the clam is gone; Manga fact! No disputing!

Now, Back up your claim that it won't be able to see through Chakra. Chakra has been shown to be translucent.

 

[Draegod]

Now, Back up your claim that it won't be able to see through Chakra. Chakra has been shown to be translucent.

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What part of reread what i stated dont you understand??? Everything you could think of asking has already been dealt with!

 

[slimreaper]

Its constant, no matter what you do, it will all be a mirage! manga fact! Untill you find the Clam via direct Contact, you will never escape the genjutsu while your in it! Its manga fact!

Sharingan cannot see through pure chakra, Zabuza proved that on more than one occasion. What is there to talk about?

but it can see the chakra. the chakra would be circulating faster where the clam was directly spewing it, thus giving away its location gg