[VS] Sasuke vs Naruto

[DemonicAvenger]

Yup, naturally.

I justed noticed that Sasuke had this Susano'O in the OP ._. nvm.​

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[Bogard]

The gap is smaller than i thought considering Naruto finally had killing intent, but there was still a gap. Considering Naruto had Gudodama and mainly Bijus and chakra restrictions, i'd say

Full power RikudoBiju Naruto > RikudoKurama Naruto = Rinnegan RikudoBiju Sasuke > Rinnegan Sasuke

 

[Apêx1]

Naruto = Sasuke w/Bijuu > Sasuke

This is pretty much Cannon.​

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What? That's rather biased, since you are somehow implying Naruto doesn't have Bijuu. So right now, it's;
Bijuu Sasuke=Bijuu SM Naruto>Non-Bijuu Sasuke=Bijuu non-SM Naruto>Non-Bijuu RM Naruto.

 

[KidGamer65]

^ Bijuu are a natural thing for Naruto, so its natural that no one puts "Naruto w/Bijuu" Lol

 

[RustledJimmies]

I justed noticed that Sasuke had this Susano'O in the OP ._. nvm.​

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Why wouldn't Sasuke have it ? It's part of his arsenal.

 

[Transcendence]

What? That's rather biased, since you are somehow implying Naruto doesn't have Bijuu. So right now, it's;
Bijuu Sasuke=Bijuu SM Naruto>Non-Bijuu Sasuke=Bijuu non-SM Naruto>Non-Bijuu RM Naruto.

He canonically has the Bijuu, but he was restricted from using the Bijuu's power in the fight (He relied on Senjutsu of the Six Paths and Yin Kurama). I suspect it has to do with the fact that they were within the Genjutsu and Naruto was unable to access there power.

It's more like this:

Rikudou Mode Naruto w/ Nature Energy absorbed = Bijuu Sasuke > Rikudou Mode Naruto (No energy absorbed) >= Rin'negan Sasuke (Naruto still has his Avatar, which was scaled to Sasuke's Bijuu PS. It should take out Sasuke's prior PS).

If Naruto has the Bijuu's power then he's slightly more powerful than Bijuu PS Sasuke, but it's still a High-Extreme difficulty fight regardless.

 

[Sound]

Rikudou Naruto = Rinnegan Sasuke w/ Bijū PS ......>>>..... Rinnegan Sasuke​

 

[Apêx1]

Rikudou Naruto=Rinnegan Sasuke w/ Bijū PS >>> Rinnegan Sasuke​

?... Rikudo Naruto w/ Bijū SM=Rinnegan Sasuke w/ Bijū>Rinnegan Sasuke w/ out Bijū>Rikudo Naruto w/ out Bijū.

 

[Bogard]

Naruto had Biju restriction in this fight. The only one he could use was Kurama when Sasuke used the full potential of all Bijus

 

[Transcendence]

?... Rikudo Naruto w/ Bijū SM=Rinnegan Sasuke w/ Bijū>Rinnegan Sasuke w/ out Bijū>Rikudo Naruto w/ out Bijū.

Rikudou Naruto without the Bijuu still has his "Ashura Avatar" available to him which puts him above Rin'negan Sasuke w/ out the Biju.

 

[KidGamer65]

Rikudou Mode Naruto w/ Nature Energy absorbed = Bijuu Sasuke > Rikudou Mode Naruto (No energy absorbed) >= Rin'negan Sasuke (Naruto still has his Avatar, which was scaled to Sasuke's Bijuu PS. It should take out Sasuke's prior PS).

I thought that Naruto's Avatar only gets that strong because of the Nature Energy.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Naruto wins extreme diff.
9 tsb's
9 beasts.
Used neither in the final fight.

 

[Transcendence]

I thought that Naruto's Avatar only gets that strong because of the Nature Energy.

Scan?

I thought the Nature Energy was purely for the attack Naruto was preparing. Fusing the Avatars was the creation of the Ashura Avatar, wasn't it? I'm open to a change of mind if you can show me why.

 

[RustledJimmies]

Naruto had Biju restriction in this fight. The only one he could use was Kurama when Sasuke used the full potential of all Bijus

What difference would it make ? He already used his strongest attack, and it was equal to Sasuke's strongest attack.

 

[KidGamer65]

@BenjerminGaye: Yeah, people say that, but none of those abilities top what he did use, so him not using them is irrelevant. I could say that Madara didn't use his two MS techniques against Hashirama's Shinsuusenju, thus him using them can change the outcome, even though logic dictates that it doesn't work that way.

-Kairiki Musou? Useless against Sasuke's improved Susanoo.

-Lava FRS?

-Jiton Rasengan?

-Ink?

-Blue Flame?

-Bubbles?

As for the Gudo Dama? Pretty sure he used them to block Susanoo arrow, resulting in them being blown up, only to reform later. Useless in high scaled combat, especially since BSM Naruto's Bijuu Dama were damaging them, and Senjutsu Bijuu Sized Rasengan was cracking them. No way that it'll take anything Sasuke used in that fight that is PS leveled and up.

 

[Bogard]

What difference would it make ? He already used his strongest attack, and it was equal to Sasuke's strongest attack.

He didn't use this [

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] It's clear which one is the strongest attack

 

[KidGamer65]

Scan?

I thought the Nature Energy was purely for the attack Naruto was preparing. Fusing the Avatars was the creation of the Ashura Avatar, wasn't it? I'm open to a change of mind if you can show me why.

Naruto's Avatar sorta looks completed after he gets the NE

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But I'm probably wrong. It was most likely for that attack.

 

[Transcendence]

Naruto wins extreme diff.
9 tsb's
9 beasts.
Used neither in the final fight.

The beasts might have made this a more noticeable win in one corner, but I fail to see what 9 TSB's would have done to something scaled to such a high tier as Sasuke's PS.

 

[Sound]

?... Rikudo Naruto w/ Bijū SM=Rinnegan Sasuke w/ Bijū>Rinnegan Sasuke w/ out Bijū>Rikudo Naruto w/ out Bijū.

What's your point?​

 

[Apêx1]

He canonically has the Bijuu, but he was restricted from using the Bijuu's power in the fight (He relied on Senjutsu of the Six Paths and Yin Kurama). I suspect it has to do with the fact that they were within the Genjutsu and Naruto was unable to access there power.

It's more like this:

Rikudou Mode Naruto w/ Nature Energy absorbed = Bijuu Sasuke > Rikudou Mode Naruto (No energy absorbed) >= Rin'negan Sasuke (Naruto still has his Avatar, which was scaled to Sasuke's Bijuu PS. It should take out Sasuke's prior PS).

If Naruto has the Bijuu's power then he's slightly more powerful than Bijuu PS Sasuke, but it's still a High-Extreme difficulty fight regardless.

I don't see the basis of this. Only because he didn't use their powers does not mean their powers were unavailable to him. Sasuke didn't use PS encoated with Enton, does that mean it was unavailable to him? No. Sasuke didn't use Rinneswap, Shinra Tensei, Soul rip or chakra rods, does that mean all of these where unavailable to him? Nope. Naruto's cloak clearly increased in size, and it didn't happen randomly, so one can assume the other Bijuu's chakras are within his avatar as well in the form of Kurama's shroud.

And @bold. What? Naruto and Sasuke's PS were definitely equal, otherwise Naruto's shroud wouldn't have lost its tail. Sasuke lost his sword (I believe), so they were equal then as well. Naruto's prior avatar wasn't even comparable to Sasuke's Biju PS, not the slightest. It was being obliterated by TBB detonations via Raiton projectiles, whereas Sasuke was laughing at those bombs are solo'ing 3 avatars while doing so. Unless I am misunderstanding here, since your parenthesis placement may have been misconstrued by me.

And I disagree, that was Naruto's full power, even if he had used KKG's that he didn't utilise canonically, Sasuke could still have tanked them or ploughed through them with Indra's arrow, since Indra's arrow=Naruto's excess Nature energy attack, which is his strongest attack to this point. Not to mention that Chou Shinra Tensei would also have a high likelihood of countering them, given a regular ST was able to repel a regular FRS, and that was from a transplanted Rinnegan without its user wielding a potent chakra, but rather knocking on death's door.

Rikudou Naruto without the Bijuu still has his "Ashura Avatar" available to him which puts him above Rin'negan Sasuke w/ out the Biju.

Again, on what basis does Naruto have this, only because Ashura did? Kurama's chakra was being used in the fight, and that's the only thing shown to be on par with Sasuke's non-Bijuu PS. Non-Kurama chakra means less potent chakra ergo weaker avatar. So Naruto would still lose.