[VS] Sasuke vs Naruto

[LuckyMan]

By feats Naruto win.
By Portrayal, Naruto still wins

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke's not winning with one rinnegan. It'd be debatable if/when he awakens both of them, but come on! Don't go for the hype! Remember, Sasuke's attacks and defense have been demonstrated to be far weaker than Naruto's from the Kaguya fight. I have a hard time believing that Sasuke's deva abilities will be stronger than his PS.

Sssuke isn't getting a second eye. He's proven that he can access the Rinnegan's full powers with only one eye. And yes, his Finnegan will obviously surpass his Susanoo. Doesn't make any sense for it to be weaker.

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Is a far cry from this.

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Your point? Sasuke only needed a sphere large enough to hold the bijuu. Obviously not the best he can do.

And Naruto was having no difficulty surviving against Madara. Only possibility for them to be equal is if A. it turns out Naruto doesn't have the full senjutsu of the 6 paths, and neither did Madara or B. Sasuke will awaken a second rinnegan in the midst of this battle after getting pummeled the first couple of rounds (most likely).

If you think any of this is happening...you are clearly delusional.

-Sasuke has reached his full power. So has Naruto. No one is getting a power up. Naruto isn't going to be pummeling Sasuke either. Nothing but nonsense. If anything it'll be the other way around, or it'll be evenly matched since Sasukes new powers need to be hyped up

 

[Icelerate]

Sssuke isn't getting a second eye. He's proven that he can access the Rinnegan's full powers with only one eye. And yes, his Finnegan will obviously surpass his Susanoo. Doesn't make any sense for it to be weaker.




Your point? Sasuke only needed a sphere large enough to hold the bijuu. Obviously not the best he can do.



If you think any of this is happening...you are clearly delusional.

-Sasuke has reached his full power. So has Naruto. No one is getting a power up. Naruto isn't going to be pummeling Sasuke either. Nothing but nonsense. If anything it'll be the other way around, or it'll be evenly matched since Sasukes new powers need to be hyped up

Are you implying Sasuke beats Naruto?

Naruto's shown to be the superior combatant in the Kaguya fight but I have a theory that Sasuke decided to not go all out just to hide his true powers which gives him an intel advantage unlike Naruto who likes to show off his power.

Regardless Naruto will end up beating Sasuke with extreme difficulty for plot reasons.

If we go by current feats and exclude plot, Naruto should take this mid difficulty. He's faster than Sasuke and his attack speed is as fast as PS yet he himself is very small compared to PS so Naruto will have a much easier time hitting PS then Sasuke will have hitting Naruto. TBB FRS should be able to destroy Sasuke's PS and with the help of clone feints, Naruto is bound to take Sasuke out.

 

[Icelerate]

Sssuke isn't getting a second eye. He's proven that he can access the Rinnegan's full powers with only one eye. And yes, his Finnegan will obviously surpass his Susanoo. Doesn't make any sense for it to be weaker.




Your point? Sasuke only needed a sphere large enough to hold the bijuu. Obviously not the best he can do.



If you think any of this is happening...you are clearly delusional.

-Sasuke has reached his full power. So has Naruto. No one is getting a power up. Naruto isn't going to be pummeling Sasuke either. Nothing but nonsense. If anything it'll be the other way around, or it'll be evenly matched since Sasukes new powers need to be hyped up

Are you implying Sasuke beats Naruto?

Naruto's shown to be the superior combatant in the Kaguya fight but I have a theory that Sasuke decided to not go all out just to hide his true powers which gives him an intel advantage unlike Naruto who likes to show off his power.

Regardless Naruto will end up beating Sasuke with extreme difficulty for plot reasons.

If we go by current feats and exclude plot, Naruto should take this mid difficulty. He's faster than Sasuke and his attack speed is as fast as PS yet he himself is very small compared to PS so Naruto will have a much easier time hitting PS then Sasuke will have hitting Naruto. TBB FRS should be able to destroy Sasuke's PS and with the help of clone feints, Naruto is bound to take Sasuke out.

 

[Bronze]

The only "proof" is in your imagination. Truth is, the rinnegan is only half of Hagoromo's power. A half cannot excede a half, so by definition, the full power of senjutsu=the full power of the rinnegan.

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Only 1 Rinnegan is half of Rikudou's power. 2 are the full power.​

 

[elsepa]

Tip: Nardo is in the next movie , Sasuke hasn't been revealed yet

 

[Haizaki]

Naruto takes this.

 

[Apêx1]

Are you implying Sasuke beats Naruto?
If we go by current feats and exclude plot, Naruto should take this mid difficulty. He's faster than Sasuke and his attack speed is as fast as PS yet he himself is very small compared to PS so Naruto will have a much easier time hitting PS then Sasuke will have hitting Naruto. TBB FRS should be able to destroy Sasuke's PS and with the help of clone feints, Naruto is bound to take Sasuke out.

No. Sasuke has all the means necessary to take down Naruto. I don't get your point. He has similar attack speed, how does that help though? Are you implying Naruto's attack speed will actually affect PS? What will he do when he attacks the PS and realizes it's suddenly engulfed in Enton? Sasuke should hypothetically be capable of using his Rinnegan abilities with his PS active. This is because he has a hybrid eye, meaning a BT to make Naruto powerless followed by a PS slash would easily end, or leave Naruto vulnerable for long enough to get cut by an Enton engulfed sword. TBBFRS would destroy it, but then again there are many ways to counter it. One way is ST. Another is teleporting Naruto into it. Another is simply staying close to Naruto, since people tend to forget this attack has the explosion range of multiple mountain ranges, so Naruto using it in a CQC fight, or anything less than many kilometers, will result in him dying too. Preta path is to be considered in Sasuke's arsenal at this point, he absorbs the explosion and remains unaffected since he doesn't absorb pure nature energy. Oh, and lol at clone feints. They die while PS is wrecking havoc to an agile Naruto.

 

[Kamui Sama]

Just wait for the fight to become canon, jeez Lol

 

[KidGamer65]

Are you implying Sasuke beats Naruto?

Nope.

Naruto's shown to be the superior combatant in the Kaguya fight but I have a theory that Sasuke decided to not go all out just to hide his true powers which gives him an intel advantage unlike Naruto who likes to show off his power.

He already stated that he just now got used to his eye, so he wasn't holding back.

Regardless Naruto will end up beating Sasuke with extreme difficulty for plot reasons.


If we go by current feats and exclude plot, Naruto should take this mid difficulty. He's faster than Sasuke and his attack speed is as fast as PS yet he himself is very small compared to PS so Naruto will have a much easier time hitting PS then Sasuke will have hitting Naruto. TBB FRS should be able to destroy Sasuke's PS and with the help of clone feints, Naruto is bound to take Sasuke out.

I agree though, need more feats to make a case for Sasuke. What he has shown so far, or giving him the feats of other Rinnegan users isn't going to cut it.

 

[MickNerks]

Getting worked up over who can win a fight, which will be shown in 2 weeks.smh

Its no doubt that Naruto is currently stronger or of the same strength. If he wasnt the sage would have given him some extra power-up before he disappeared. Anyone who claims that Sasuke is stronger just because he has shown CT, needs to look themselves in the mirror and just confess that they are fanboying. A logical person would just wait for the fight to begin before spouting this non-sense of sasuke solo's, when everyone knows at the end of the day Naruto IS GOING TO PULL SOME MEGA OP JUTSU out of no where to defeat sasuke with..

So please, just stop!!

 

[Voidstep]

No. Sasuke has all the means necessary to take down Naruto. I don't get your point. He has similar attack speed, how does that help though? Are you implying Naruto's attack speed will actually affect PS? What will he do when he attacks the PS and realizes it's suddenly engulfed in Enton? Sasuke should hypothetically be capable of using his Rinnegan abilities with his PS active. This is because he has a hybrid eye, meaning a BT to make Naruto powerless followed by a PS slash would easily end, or leave Naruto vulnerable for long enough to get cut by an Enton engulfed sword. TBBFRS would destroy it, but then again there are many ways to counter it. One way is ST. Another is teleporting Naruto into it. Another is simply staying close to Naruto, since people tend to forget this attack has the explosion range of multiple mountain ranges, so Naruto using it in a CQC fight, or anything less than many kilometers, will result in him dying too. Preta path is to be considered in Sasuke's arsenal at this point, he absorbs the explosion and remains unaffected since he doesn't absorb pure nature energy. Oh, and lol at clone feints. They die while PS is wrecking havoc to an agile Naruto.

all you're doing is speculating and hyping
if feats don't matter anymore and if we can speculate so much... lets all just say that, Nardo can use onmyouton shield and attacks, which renders all ninjutsu useless. he has the gudou-damas after all, so it's not far fetched... even though he hasn't done it yet.
and there's the BM avatar, we can speculate that he has it, but was just too lazy to it use so far.

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Only 1 Rinnegan is half of Rikudou's power. 2 are the full power.​

what are you trying to say!?!?
Nardo and Sasky both got half of the sage power, simple.
and he could never achieve So6P full power, the sage got more than rinnegan. Sasky doesn't have the senjutsu, nor the tailed beasts.

Sssuke isn't getting a second eye. He's proven that he can access the Rinnegan's full powers with only one eye. And yes, his Finnegan will obviously surpass his Susanoo. Doesn't make any sense for it to be weaker.

Your point? Sasuke only needed a sphere large enough to hold the bijuu. Obviously not the best he can do.

I agree with the part that he won't get a second rinnegan
but about the rest, you're forgetting one important detail...
his rinnegan won't simply surpass PS, Sasky it's not a Juubi Jin.
PS will be his best form of defense and attack
take Maddy for example... he only stopped using PS (we don't know if by choice) only when he became Juubi Jin. before that, he had mokuton, was an edo, had rinnegan... and was rolling with PS, whch was his stronger move.

Your point? Sasuke only needed a sphere large enough to hold the bijuu. Obviously not the best he can do.

it's true
but he'll never be able replicate Maddy feat, he doesn't have Juubi Jin chakra levels.

 

[King Of Pop]

Lol epic thread. Don't worry guys, in 2 wks time we shall be treated to a fight of fights, menn cnt wait.

 

[KidGamer65]

I agree with the part that he won't get an second rinnegan
but about the rest, you're forgetting one important detail...
his rinnegan won't simply surpass PS, Sasky it's not a Juubi Jin.
PS will be his best form of defense and attack
take Maddy for example... he only stopped using PS (we don't know if by choice) only when he became Juubi Jin. before that, he had mokuton, was an edo, had rinnegan... and was rolling with PS, whch was his stronger move.

Sasuke not being a Juubi Jinchuuriki doesn't mean anything. When Madara was revived and got his eye back, what did he use? He used his Rinnegan. Not Mokuton. Not EMS. Just Rinnegan, and the result was much better and the process was much quicker than it could have been had he used EMS or Mokuton.

When Madara got his other eye back, the first things he used were Limbo (Rinnegan) Chibaku Tensei (Rinnegan) and Infinite Tsukuyomi (Rinnegan) No Juubi Jinchuuriki powers at all. His Rinnegan abilities are better than his Juubi abilities, and the rest of his Sharingan/Mokuton abilities.

Not to mention PS being Sasuke's best offense and defense doesn't make sense when manga has already shown that Naruto would manhandle it.

I bet you my bottom dollar that Sasuke might not even use Susanoo this fight, and if he does, it won't be his main technique. He'll probably fight using the Rinnegan.

but he'll never be able replicate Maddy feat, he doesn't have Juubi Jin chakra levels.

Lol, of course not.

 

[LuckyMan]

Regardless Naruto will end up beating Sasuke with extreme difficulty for plot reasons.

While I do wholeheartedly agree Naruto will win because of plot (like no shit its his show), in all fairness, take away the plot of the story and Naruto still defeats Sasuke. He's been stronger than him for a long time now. I'll be generous and say since KCM but probably ever since SM.

 

[AlphaScythian]

My bet is one sasuke.
He already has displayed counter for naruto attacks.
If he does have access to rest of rinnegan techs he wins mid diff.

 

[Voidstep]

Sasuke not being a Juubi Jinchuuriki doesn't mean anything. When Madara was revived and got his eye back, what did he use? He used his Rinnegan. Not Mokuton. Not EMS. Just Rinnegan, and the result was much better and the process was much quicker than it could have been had he used EMS or Mokuton.

When Madara got his other eye back, the first things he used were Limbo (Rinnegan) Chibaku Tensei (Rinnegan) and Infinite Tsukuyomi (Rinnegan) No Juubi Jinchuuriki powers at all. His Rinnegan abilities are better than his Juubi abilities, and the rest of his Sharingan/Mokuton abilities.

Not to mention PS being Sasuke's best offense and defense doesn't make sense when manga has already shown that Naruto would manhandle it.

I bet you my bottom dollar that Sasuke might not even use Susanoo this fight, and if he does, it won't be his main technique. He'll probably fight using the Rinnegan.



Lol, of course not.

I agree with some points
and when I said "rinnegan won't simply surpass PS", wasn't trying to say it would be weaker. not weaker not stronger, both useful, IMO of course
and I bet he'll use PS in this fight

absorbing techs leaves him open for an attack
also Nardo can use multiple attacks
also if one of Nardo's techs already detonated, it would be better to use susano'o for defense
etc

about Madara
again, I agree with some of your points
but lets see something... let's remove limbo for this discussion, because that's most likely his unique ability, and we're discussing Sasky, which might not have it
I think Madara would have a harder time dealing with the 5 kages if he used rinnegan alone (excluding Limbo), while if he used his "full power", he'd have stomped them with no difficulty from the start
in other words, I think Gokage would stand a better chance against Madara with rinnegan (without Limbo)than they would against PS
apart from Limbo, CT would the next most troublesome move, but Jinton could obliterate the core

before he even became a Juubi Jin he also got SM from Hashirama
his senses and durabilty got a boost, also his jutsus got a boost
he got another boost when he became a Jin... so rinnegan was all he needed really, coupled with the fact that he was immortal and could only be damaged by senjutsu attacks (or jutsus with the sage's chakra)and taijutsu
also there's no guarantee he could use PS, he probably could, we just don't know sure

 

[Bronze]

what are you trying to say!?!?
Nardo and Sasky both got half of the sage power, simple.
and he could never achieve So6P full power, the sage got more than rinnegan. Sasky doesn't have the senjutsu, nor the tailed beasts.

Hagoromo = Indra and Ashura. By obtaining their strength, you gain Hagoromo's full strength = double Rinnegan. [

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[Voidstep]

Hagoromo = Indra and Ashura. By obtaining their strength, you gain Hagoromo's full strength = double Rinnegan. [

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Sasuke eye is probably better than the standard rinnegan
Juubi only had one Sharinnegan, Madara only had one Sharinnegan, Kaguya only had one Sharinnegan... he won't just magically grow another one of those
and what good would it be to get one standard rinnegan when he already has Sharinnegan, with the standard rinnegan abilities (probably)!?

Hagoromo full strength doesn't resume only to eye power
he has senjutsu (which Nardo obtained)
he also had the juubi

rinnegan was just a portion of his power... lets say half, the half Sasuke gained

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke negs Naruto cant counter Tsuki no mi inb4 it wasit tsuki no mi it was

remember kaguya had used this tech before there was a moon she basically casted it over large groups of people. With that being said Sasuke literally 1 shots the bijuu are useless as naruto would have been finished the 2nd chapter when madz got double rinne if it wasit for sasuke protecting him from tsuki no mi

however if this is restricted it go either leaning towards sasuke tho