UchihaTobito
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So I've seen all the threads about this topic and everybody taking sides either for Minato or Sasuke. In this thread I will try to be as unbiased as possible. I will compare known techniques of each and assess which would trump others. As well as rate the characters on speed, strengths, and experience when possible. Please feel free to disagree or provide insight. If you think a statement is false or bias call me out on it and provide your thought/details.
Sasuke Vs. Minato
Sasuke I feel would have difficulty with this match up I feel. Not knowing what Minato's abilities except for a very few make this harder to assess.
Amaterasu (Long-range) would not be valuable to Sasuke in a long range match up here. As we have seen before it is vision based, but we have seen Sasuke out run it versus Itachi for a short time in their fight. It eventually caught up with him and Sasuke resorted to the snake rebirth to avoid death. This catching up with Minato would never be an issue due to his FTG. Also one might ask what would happen if it did hit Minato? Well to answer this think back to when Sasuke involuntarily used this technique on Obito after he first gained his MS. Obito used Kumui to warp away and leave the flames to fizzle. Since the flames did not contact anything they died out, this is the seemingly only way because they burn anything and everything they touch until it is gone.
So FTG > Amaterasu (Long-range).
Amaterasu (Shield) This is an ability we have only seen Sasuke have and it is a very good technique and a big reason why this would not be an insta-kill for Minato. Sasuke would have to rely on this and would be able to stop Minato from hurting him. This also is making the assumption how ever so stupid that Minato has no long range capabilities. Again Minato could just warp away from the flames, and take insignificant damage. If you are wondering why only insignificant read wikipedia on the leidenfrost effect. Also Minato can create giant rasengans so if Sasuke didnt distance the flames far enough he could take life ending damage.
Amaterasu (Shield) ~= FTG
Susanoo This is something Minato would have issues with, but only in penetrating it's defense. Minato out-classes Susanoo's speed in any possible way and scenario. This would be a time game with Sasuke losing large amounts of chakra for almost no gain. The arrows and Yasaka Magatama are not going to catch Minato in any possible realm of imagination.
FTG > Susanoo by far. So much so that it is in Sasuke's benefit not to use it.
Hawk Summon This is something I only mention for the sake of thoroughness. Toad summons or FTG + Rasengan easily crush this. There is not point to this summoning. Remember we are only going off of known abilities so the toads can use jutsu and we have not seen this from the hawks.
Multiple > Hawk Summon
Tsukuyomi is a technique that didn't even work against Danzo due to Sasuke not having enough prowess. His version doesn't last for as long and doesn't dilate time. It requires a huge amount of chakra and needs eye contact. Minato coming from a generation that had many Uchiha still alive would know they are avid genjutsu users and not look into their eyes. In this case Minato wins again. Minato was dead before the Uchiha massacre and probably at least sparred with Uchiha and probably had Uchiha friends.
FTG + Experience with Uchiha > Tsukuyomi.
Kirin This technique is so overrated I usually laugh. Kirin is only controlling a normal Lightning bolt, normal people live through getting struck every year. Yes this is strong, but consider the fact that Itachi tanked it with Susanoo which he had enough time to perform when he knew what was happening. This Susanoo was very weak and this was from Itachi not having almost any chakra left. It seems that Itachi would not have even lost the Susanoo cloak if he had more chakra. This technique also has to have extremely specific conditions, and ones that are not easy to make. Sasuke only got the fire jutsu off because Itachi was far away and couldn't just warp behind him and rasengan him like minato can and would. Kirin if it hit would most likely stop Minato though, but at this point that is unlikely. Also for those of you that mention the speed of light remember that if Itachi could react in a weakened state, Minato with a much faster reaction time would easily just warp away.
FTG > Kirin unless Sasuke gets extremely lucky with Minato off guard.
Sasuke would have huge difficulty with this fight and i see only one way of Sasuke winning and it would have to play out like this:
Sasuke fights Minato using Amaterasu (Shield) up while firing off normal fire jutsu to the clouds. Relying on Minato not having Long-Range anything.
^This could be trumpted at anytime by Minato warping behind sasuke and immediately throwing a teleport kunai at Sasuke. This would end in 2 ways Sasuke is burned by the kunai lighting and setting him on fire or Sasuke turns off the fire and opens a spot for Minato to directly warp to un-hurt and finish him off.
Sasuke builds up enough clouds to preform the technique. This next part has to work very fast and sasuke has to do it perfectly Sasuke would then have to get Minato to look into his eyes possibly by some clone jutsu. He would have to cast Tsukuyomi and then in the small time Minato is trapped cast Kirin while they are most likely within 5 ft and cast Susanoo to make sure he doesn't get hit as well. Then when Kirin hits Minato due to him being under genjutsu he would finish him off with an arrow from Susanoo or Yasaka Magatama ending the fight.
This battle would be near impossible and have to go perfectly and quickly in order to work. Any excess stamina drain from Sasuke would be the end of him as well as any mistake, but he could pull it off.
DISCLAIMER-----This wouldn't do anything to an EDO Minato, in which case Sasuke has absolutely no way of stopping him due to lack of sealing techniques. Also Minato could just be burned and go straight through shield. I decided to give Sasuke a fair human v. human fight because the fight would never happen anyway and I wanted to compare actual abilities not hax-I-cannot-die-lol-no-jutsu.
Sasuke Vs. Minato
Sasuke I feel would have difficulty with this match up I feel. Not knowing what Minato's abilities except for a very few make this harder to assess.
Amaterasu (Long-range) would not be valuable to Sasuke in a long range match up here. As we have seen before it is vision based, but we have seen Sasuke out run it versus Itachi for a short time in their fight. It eventually caught up with him and Sasuke resorted to the snake rebirth to avoid death. This catching up with Minato would never be an issue due to his FTG. Also one might ask what would happen if it did hit Minato? Well to answer this think back to when Sasuke involuntarily used this technique on Obito after he first gained his MS. Obito used Kumui to warp away and leave the flames to fizzle. Since the flames did not contact anything they died out, this is the seemingly only way because they burn anything and everything they touch until it is gone.
So FTG > Amaterasu (Long-range).
Amaterasu (Shield) This is an ability we have only seen Sasuke have and it is a very good technique and a big reason why this would not be an insta-kill for Minato. Sasuke would have to rely on this and would be able to stop Minato from hurting him. This also is making the assumption how ever so stupid that Minato has no long range capabilities. Again Minato could just warp away from the flames, and take insignificant damage. If you are wondering why only insignificant read wikipedia on the leidenfrost effect. Also Minato can create giant rasengans so if Sasuke didnt distance the flames far enough he could take life ending damage.
Amaterasu (Shield) ~= FTG
Susanoo This is something Minato would have issues with, but only in penetrating it's defense. Minato out-classes Susanoo's speed in any possible way and scenario. This would be a time game with Sasuke losing large amounts of chakra for almost no gain. The arrows and Yasaka Magatama are not going to catch Minato in any possible realm of imagination.
FTG > Susanoo by far. So much so that it is in Sasuke's benefit not to use it.
Hawk Summon This is something I only mention for the sake of thoroughness. Toad summons or FTG + Rasengan easily crush this. There is not point to this summoning. Remember we are only going off of known abilities so the toads can use jutsu and we have not seen this from the hawks.
Multiple > Hawk Summon
Tsukuyomi is a technique that didn't even work against Danzo due to Sasuke not having enough prowess. His version doesn't last for as long and doesn't dilate time. It requires a huge amount of chakra and needs eye contact. Minato coming from a generation that had many Uchiha still alive would know they are avid genjutsu users and not look into their eyes. In this case Minato wins again. Minato was dead before the Uchiha massacre and probably at least sparred with Uchiha and probably had Uchiha friends.
FTG + Experience with Uchiha > Tsukuyomi.
Kirin This technique is so overrated I usually laugh. Kirin is only controlling a normal Lightning bolt, normal people live through getting struck every year. Yes this is strong, but consider the fact that Itachi tanked it with Susanoo which he had enough time to perform when he knew what was happening. This Susanoo was very weak and this was from Itachi not having almost any chakra left. It seems that Itachi would not have even lost the Susanoo cloak if he had more chakra. This technique also has to have extremely specific conditions, and ones that are not easy to make. Sasuke only got the fire jutsu off because Itachi was far away and couldn't just warp behind him and rasengan him like minato can and would. Kirin if it hit would most likely stop Minato though, but at this point that is unlikely. Also for those of you that mention the speed of light remember that if Itachi could react in a weakened state, Minato with a much faster reaction time would easily just warp away.
FTG > Kirin unless Sasuke gets extremely lucky with Minato off guard.
Sasuke would have huge difficulty with this fight and i see only one way of Sasuke winning and it would have to play out like this:
Sasuke fights Minato using Amaterasu (Shield) up while firing off normal fire jutsu to the clouds. Relying on Minato not having Long-Range anything.
^This could be trumpted at anytime by Minato warping behind sasuke and immediately throwing a teleport kunai at Sasuke. This would end in 2 ways Sasuke is burned by the kunai lighting and setting him on fire or Sasuke turns off the fire and opens a spot for Minato to directly warp to un-hurt and finish him off.
Sasuke builds up enough clouds to preform the technique. This next part has to work very fast and sasuke has to do it perfectly Sasuke would then have to get Minato to look into his eyes possibly by some clone jutsu. He would have to cast Tsukuyomi and then in the small time Minato is trapped cast Kirin while they are most likely within 5 ft and cast Susanoo to make sure he doesn't get hit as well. Then when Kirin hits Minato due to him being under genjutsu he would finish him off with an arrow from Susanoo or Yasaka Magatama ending the fight.
This battle would be near impossible and have to go perfectly and quickly in order to work. Any excess stamina drain from Sasuke would be the end of him as well as any mistake, but he could pull it off.
DISCLAIMER-----This wouldn't do anything to an EDO Minato, in which case Sasuke has absolutely no way of stopping him due to lack of sealing techniques. Also Minato could just be burned and go straight through shield. I decided to give Sasuke a fair human v. human fight because the fight would never happen anyway and I wanted to compare actual abilities not hax-I-cannot-die-lol-no-jutsu.
