[VS] Sasuke Vs Juubi

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Bunch of excuses.They did 2 supersized bijudamas collided infront of them, and they didnt even had a scratch on them.He fought hachibi, who used BD
Just proves how pathetic its power really is, susanoo tanked BD and even upgraded easily.Amaterasu engulfed in seconds hachibi, cerberus n bird of nagato, instantly made a hole in toads stomach, spread out in forest rather fast. At least amaterasu has examples of being effective sometimes unlike bijudama that didnt even brake the barrier around turtle.
Thats if u want me to jump into deeper analysis or u just can accept that once amaterasu burns its spreads and there is nothing juubi can do.

The third was never stated to have tanked it. Just because the Hachibi uses it doesn't mean it hit him.

Naruto fought the Shukaku and wasn't hit by BD

You didn't counter anything. Your narrow mindly claimed excuses when the points should be obvious.

None of your arguments for Amaterasu are even about it's burn rate and you won't find a feat of a decent burn rate. Much less something that can harm the Juubi.
 
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I can't believe people still don't know the difference between a focused Amaterasu and Enton used as defense or the one that loses its point of focus. It's pretty sad.

When has the manga ever shown that there was a diffrence?

Wishfull thinking.
 

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The third was never stated to have tanked it. Just because the Hachibi uses it doesn't mean it hit him.

Naruto fought the Shukaku and wasn't hit by BD

You didn't counter anything. Your narrow mindly claimed excuses when the points should be obvious.

None of your arguments for Amaterasu are even about it's burn rate and you won't find a feat of a decent burn rate. Much less something that can harm the Juubi.

Thank you for agreeing. Another point I would like to add is that. Remember when amaterasu hit Karin. It was on her for a good 5-10 seconds yet they were still able to revive and she went about her life like nothing happened.
 
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Thank you for agreeing. Another point I would like to add is that. Remember when amaterasu hit Karin. It was on her for a good 5-10 seconds yet they were still able to revive and she went about her life like nothing happened.

Your welcome

I thought I mentioned something about Karin though? Cuz someone brought up the Uchiha fans grand excuse for Amaterasu's shit burn rate.
 

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The third was never stated to have tanked it. Just because the Hachibi uses it doesn't mean it hit him.
Hachibi confirmed he was using BD. Raikage cut all of his tails ofc he would resort to BD.
Naruto fought the Shukaku and wasn't hit by BD
Shukaku was never pushed to that point, and he wasnt complete if he depends on well being of garaa!
You didn't counter anything. Your narrow mindly claimed excuses when the points should be obvious.
I countered hype of bijudama, the "blah blah" buster every1 claims to be. And points are obvious u dont see them.
None of your arguments for Amaterasu are even about it's burn rate and you won't find a feat of a decent burn rate. Much less something that can harm the Juubi.
Burn rate is pretty good vs huge targets, take hachibi and cerberus into account!
Simple truth - regardless of initial burn rate, as it grows it gets stronger exponentially. So juubi will fall as it has no counter.
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Hachibi confirmed he was using BD. Raikage cut all of his tails ofc he would resort to BD.
Shukaku was never pushed to that point, and he wasnt complete if he depends on well being of garaa!
I countered hype of bijudama, the "blah blah" buster every1 claims to be. And points are obvious u dont see them.
Burn rate is pretty good vs huge targets, take hachibi and cerberus into account!
Simple truth - regardless of initial burn rate, as it grows it gets stronger exponentially. So juubi will fall as it has no counter.
/thread

Remember when amaterasu hit Karin. It was on her for a good 5-10 seconds yet they were still able to revive and she went about her life like nothing happened.
 
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hachiby confirmed he was using BD. raikage cut all of his tail ofc he would resort to BD.
Shukaku was never pushed to that point, and he wasnt complete if he depends on well being of garaa!
I countered hype of bijudama, the "blah blah" buster every1 claims to be. And points are obvious u dont see them.
Burn rate is pretty good vs huge targets, take hachibi and cerberus into account!
Simple truth - regardless of initial burn rate, as it grows it gets stronger exponentially. So juubi will fall as it has no counter.
/thread

Yet you can't say it hit him

Shukaku got its arm cut off and even thought it was fighting the Kyuubi at one point. He also was aiming to one shot them. Wasn't pushed to use it my ass.

You didn't counter anything. You literally said "excuses" to basic points that mist people on Narutobase accept.

I didn't do any damage to the Hachibi or the cerberus. And remember you Uchiha fanboys excuse for Amaterasu's burn rate? Once Sasuke's dead it will lose its focus and burn rate.
 

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Yet you can't say it hit him
Why wouldnt it hit him? Raikage has raiton armour its good enough vs bijudama if suigetsu can tank it.
Shukaku got its arm cut off and even thought it was fighting the Kyuubi at one point. He also was aiming to one shot them. Wasn't pushed to use it my ass.
Arm off isnt 8 tails+horn, and he wasnt completely transformed.
You didn't counter anything. You literally said "excuses" to basic points that mist people on Narutobase accept.
Ofc, exuses. Madara shieled himself and kurama with susanoo armour, he took no dmg. Hashirama had his mokuton ripped apart by explosion yet he took no great dmg. And i pointed out list of ppl surviving it. Its supposed to most destructive attack yet every1 lives, it takes juubi to kill sh*t with it! So counter that, as i wont be explaining stuff to every1 thats blind!
I didn't do any damage to the Hachibi or the cerberus. And remember you Uchiha fanboys excuse for Amaterasu's burn rate? Once Sasuke's dead it will lose its focus and burn rate.
Cerberus was damaged untill it went puufff, hachibi only survived cuz bee sacrificed most of his body, and then sasuke put out flames from what was left.
There is no excuse for burn rate, its how fire works, seems u never seen one aside one in kitchen. Do u know how forest fire works? How it wipes out thousands square miles per day? And when itachi died fire was still on!!!
 

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Ok... right what both of you are saying has no meaning to it. Words or references are not enough anymore. Unless you provide proof from manga than there is no point to this arguement
 

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Remember when amaterasu hit Karin. It was on her for a good 5-10 seconds yet they were still able to revive and she went about her life like nothing happened.
Sasuke proceeded to take it off from her immediately, not 10 sec. Remember how danzo "died" rather fast?
 
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Why wouldnt it hit him? Raikage has raiton armour its good enough vs bijudama if suigetsu can tank it.
Arm off isnt 8 tails+horn, and he wasnt completely transformed.Ofc, exuses. Madara shieled himself and kurama with susanoo armour, he took no dmg. Hashirama had his mokuton ripped apart by explosion yet he took no great dmg. And i pointed out list of ppl surviving it. Its supposed to most destructive attack yet every1 lives, it takes juubi to kill sh*t with it! So counter that, as i wont be explaining stuff to every1 thats blind!
Cerberus was damaged untill it went puufff, hachibi only survived cuz bee sacrificed most of his body, and then sasuke put out flames from what was left.
There is no excuse for burn rate, its how fire works, seems u never seen one aside one in kitchen. Do u know how forest fire works? How it wipes out thousands square miles per day? And when itachi died fire was still on!!!

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if suigetsu can tank it.
he didnt tank shit.

Juubi is just omfg huge, thus has thick skin, hachibi is smaller then a hand of juubi. So ofc it can tank bijudamas all day long. But fire is different, once it ignites and starts growing its just matter of time. And dont start me on country busters, bijudamas got trolled, by suigetsu alone

Suigetsu got raped by that by the way.

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All Bijudama's aren't the same strength.

Hachibi's has a mountain buster. That's completely diffrent from the Juubi's.

Orochimaru didn't tank a real Bijudama, he tanked what was left of a 4tk Naruto's Bijudama after it went through 3 rashomon. Nothing notable.

Hashirama and Madara didn't tank Bijudama. There Jutsu did. The weakest form of a complete Bijudama mind you.

Naruto, Kakashi, Guy, and Obitos Jins have never tanked Bijudama. Don't know what ass you pulled hat out of.

Third Raikage never tanked Bijudama. That's just speculation . His feats show that he can't.

Killer Bee tanked Bijudama after it lost a monumental amount of power from being deflected by the Juubi.

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Amaterasu hasn't done shit. Karin tanked it with no damage, it couldn't burn the samurai armor, didn't damage Sasuke, didn't Bee, didn't even leave burn marks when Sasuke used it against muki Tensei, didn't burn A's arm, didn't do anything to Gaara's sand, barely Damaged Nagato's arm after Naruto and Itachi had a whole conversation

Want me to keep going?

He extiniguished the flames!
 

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When has the manga ever shown that there was a diffrence?

Wishfull thinking.

No, it isn't, it's called comprehension and reading the manga without any blinders and wide open eyes. Here is a detailed description of Amaterasu particularities I delineated in another thread. It covers the point of instantaneous appearance and spearing in regards to 'point of focus' and use of Enton as a mode of defense. Both of them have depicted completely separate properties.

Dear god, so many misconceptions. First of all, let me clear up few things about Amaterasu through this post:
- Black Flames will burn on the point wherever the eye is focused - Which means it isn't a projectile.
1: Eye Focus:
Flame Appearance:

2: Eye Focus:
Flame Appearance:
The only reason the flame hit the Samurai, is because it went beyond the point-of-focus. As Amatersau works on line of sight, then the Flame automatically hit the next target in Sasuke’s field of vision. This can be proven through this link: Amatersu goes wherever the eye goes: - This is the main reason why flames you following Sasuke during his fight with Itachi, as the flames after 'focus' is complete, follow wherever the user directs his eyes.

Further scans to disprove this projectile claim:

3: Eye Focus:
Flame Appearance:
Flame hitting the Target in Sasuke’s line of sight: (Shee: It ignites wherever he is looking at) as Amaterasu goes wherever the eye goes: , or it follows line-of-sight logic.

Amatersau penetrated the defenses of a tailed beast that are nothing but living Manifestations of Chakra. It even eats through flames which are basically made out of chakra.

Amaterasu is not easily dodged as it took A a fully charged body armour: and body flicker: (See A leaving a flickering image of himself?) to barely dodge the technique by a hair. Henceforth, this easily avoidable claim is obviously false.

Not to mention Danzo saw it coming – see above scans – along with A: - Shee: Counter it with body-flicker - and but he got burnt to crisp and had to use Izanagi to escape death.

Obito also used Izanagi to escape the Jutsu, otherwise his clothes would have been effected. Shinra Tensai isn't a counter for Amaterasu, as it blows the flames off whilst they are still burning. In fact, Nagato never saw it coming, nor did he react to it: . He was burning and literally died here: - and only regenerated because he was an Edo. Just look at his body's condition. If this is avoidance, then I laugh at anyone who says that Shinra Tensai is somehow a solution.

Gaara did not block Amaterasu. This can be proven through these links:
- Gaara attacks Sasuke - Sasuke guarding himself with an Enton against Gaara.

Sasuke never attacked Gaara in the first place, and hence only created a projectile out of the present flames over his Susano'o - easily visible in the second link - to guard himself. No 'eye focus' took place here at all.

The fact remains, that Amaterasu is nearly impossible to avid, and once it hits, the opponent is done for, especially if he/she takes a focused Amaterasu as I proved. It was implied by Sasuke that his Kirin can be aligned with Amaterasu as far as speed is concerned: - Amatersu almost as fast as Kirin.

Your point on Karin not burning instantaneously is shallow and far-fetched as it goes against the original point of Amaterasu's potency in conjunction with the set rule of 'point of focus'. Since it was NEVER focused on it, it won't behave in the way it did for Danzo, Obito, Hachibi, and Itachi's use against Nagato's summons and Nagato himself - all of them died instantly. See the difference? It doesn't take monstrous attention to grasp that at THIS point in the manga. For the love of dear lord.
 

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No, it isn't, it's called comprehension and reading the manga without any blinders and wide open eyes. Here is a detailed description of Amaterasu particularities I delineated in another thread. It covers the point of instantaneous appearance and spearing in regards to 'point of focus' and use of Enton as a mode of defense. Both of them have depicted completely separate properties.

Your point on Karin not burning instantaneously is shallow and far-fetched as it goes against the original point of Amaterasu's potency in conjunction with the set rule of 'point of focus'. Since it was NEVER focused on it, it won't behave in the way it did for Danzo, Obito, Hachibi, and Itachi's use against Nagato's summons and Nagato himself - all of them died instantly. See the difference? It doesn't take monstrous attention to grasp that at THIS point in the manga. For the love of dear lord.
Dude ur links dont work, for me at least
 
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