Sasuke VS Jiraiya

[Optimistic]

And no, Kakashi's Sharingan should, by your logic, work as well as any other. It just drains his chakra faster.

Having both set of eyes are better than having one.You're basically saying having one eye is as good as having two eyes.

 

[blazekev90]

What a preposteropus argument. What's next? Sasuke's 3T is inferior to Itachi and Madara? When has it ever been implied that Sharingan's detection abilities are different for true Uchihas? Show me a page, right now. Or stop making such claims.

how about you show me a link where it's stated that EMS has better abilities to see through clones than MS or 3 tom.

People are trying to argue that Sasuke can see through a clone, but even if he could what makes you think Sasuke (of all people) wouldn't wouldn't shot an arrow for the sake of things. Regardless, the scenario I described still holds, as no one countered or discredited that events taking place.

 

[VolatileSoul]

But Sasuke >> Itachi.

You don't know how weird if feels and how good it feels to hear that.

 

[shelke]

how about you show me a link where it's stated that EMS has better abilities to see through clones than MS or 3 tom.

People are trying to argue that Sasuke can see through a clone, but even if he could what makes you think Sasuke (of all people) wouldn't wouldn't shot an arrow for the sake of things. Regardless, the scenario I described still holds, as no one countered or discredited that events taking place.

EMS is able to see Mokuton Clones, as illustrated through Madara's Dialogues, and they are quite complex. I am not going to dig up a link for that, I'm afraid.

What kind of logic is that? He would shoot the clone to get it out of the way, perhaps, but that still changes nothing.

 

[blazekev90]

EMS is able to see Mokuton Clones, as illustrated through Madara's Dialogues, and they are quite complex. I am not going to dig up a link for that, I'm afraid.

What kind of logic is that? He would shoot the clone to get it out of the way, perhaps, but that still changes nothing.

No! The fact that Jman enters every fight with a decoy of some sort, Sasuke would w/o hesitation attack his clone. Jman uses this to determine one's abilities and counter at the same time. Hes done this everytime effectively

Therefore, a one shot instance is very unlikely between the two.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

EMS is able to see Mokuton Clones, as illustrated through Madara's Dialogues, and they are quite complex. I am not going to dig up a link for that, I'm afraid.

What kind of logic is that? He would shoot the clone to get it out of the way, perhaps, but that still changes nothing.

EMS can also use Perfect Susanoo but we don't see Sasuke use that, do we?

 

[shelke]

No! The fact that Jman enters every fight with a decoy of some sort, Sasuke would w/o hesitation attack his clone. Jman uses this to determine one's abilities and counter at the same time. Hes done this everytime effectively

Therefore, a one shot instance is very unlikely between the two.

Okay, how does he counter Amaterasu once cast on him?

 

[Optimistic]

EMS can also use Perfect Susanoo but we don't see Sasuke use that, do we?

EMS can also use enton blade but we don't see Madara use that, do we? Each MS eyes have different abilities.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

sasuke donot need ms or ems to stomp jiraya

 

[Shura]

sasuke donot need ms or ems to stomp jiraya

Uh, Sasuke stomps Jman, but not without EMS or MS. :|

 

[shelke]

^ Actually, he does given Jiraiya's weakness before Genjutsu.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

^ Actually, he does given Jiraiya's weakness before Genjutsu.

Sasuke's crappy genjutsu won't do shi!t to Jiraiya.

 

[shelke]

^ The same crappy genjutsu that bested Deidara, and Shee etc? Do you ever post facts?

 

[pateuvasiliu]

^ The same crappy genjutsu that bested Deidara, and Shee etc? Do you ever post facts?

Bested Deidara? Last I checked Sasuke needed PnJ to get out of that fight alive.

Shee? THat guy is the biggest fodder ever.

If Sasuke would genjutsu Jiraiya his toads would cut him to bits.

 

[blazekev90]

Okay, how does he counter Amaterasu once cast on him?

what? what are you trying to say?

 

[Long Haired Leaf Ninja]

Saskue wins cause he has way more character development. That being said saskue wouldn't one shot jariya unless he caught him by surprise. If jariya knew he was bout to fight saskue he would be a little more prepared.
Saskue wins mid to high diff
Give jariya a little credit. With knowledge of who he was gunna fight he would put up fight.

 

[shelke]

Bested Deidara? Last I checked Sasuke needed PnJ to get out of that fight alive.

Shee? THat guy is the biggest fodder ever.

If Sasuke would genjutsu Jiraiya his toads would cut him to bits.

Yes, obviously. Putting him twice under genjutsu with a step by step strategy was clearly Pnj. Not a very weighty comment. But what should I expect?

In whose opinion, Yours?

Yes, because those toads themselves cannot be but under genjutsu at all. Who is everyone kidding here.

@Blazekev90 I am not sure what is it that you haven't understood. What would the clone change? Absolutely nothing.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Yes, because those toads themselves cannot be but under genjutsu at all. Who is everyone kidding here.

When was the Sharingan shown to genjutsu 2 targets at the same time?

Yes, obviously. Putting him twice under genjutsu with a step by step strategy was clearly Pnj. Not a very weighty comment.

Right. Because you can summon giant snakes and genjutsu them with no chakra left. Totally NOT pnj.

 

[Turson]

When was the Sharingan shown to genjutsu 2 targets at the same time?

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-> It was, although only once.

 

[shelke]

^ Damn, you beat me to it. And if Kakashi can accomplish it, I can only imagine how good an Uchiha would be. Not to mention Genjutsu is faster than Amaterasu, because as soon as the opponent looks into Sharingan, he's put under genjutsu there and then.

Right. Because you can summon giant snakes and genjutsu them with no chakra left. Totally NOT pnj.

That is your poor, biased interpretation then. It was shown to depict Sasuke's large Chakra reserves just like how Nagato was almost out of chakra but revived an entire village. It's not Pnj, just your gross subjectivity.

And you do realize that you are completely out of decent arguments, right? Why are you bothering yourself?