sasuke vs 4 kages

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AGoodBoy

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simple,he counters everything.



right,thats why sasuke praised his defence right?:|,or why you see 2 other entons blcoked at his side which were aimed for his siblings?.

Amaterasu forms instantly on someone?,thats why A saw and dodged it right?:|
if you look at the scan, you'll see enton over sasuke's head, which means he fired off the enton at gaara's sand to defend himself from it, and also fired it off in the direction of gaara's siblings but the attacking sand got hit by it and gaara's auto defence moved infront of his siblings. Enton travels, that's how gaara blocked that. Take enton arrow or enton magatama as the best example; It's made of amaterasu but it doesn't spawn on target.

Ay used his after image to dodge. The amaterasu spawned on his V2 cloak, but before it could effectively touch his skin, he after imaged away and sasuke's vision caught a new target - the samurai - which instantly caught on fire. The amaterasu didn't travel from ay to the samurai, it just spawned on him. Amaterasu always bleeds the eye (as far as i can remember) but enton doesn't.
 

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Gaara isnt getting faw away anyways also sasuke has his hawk that can fly up to gaara you mean the sand armor that is cracked up by 1 punch Amaterasu to the face its burns thru that sand instantly dont be silly Susanoo arrows has much more piercing force then madara slicing swords plus there fast than the sharingan eye can see in there much more denser than madara's susanoo blades the to fast for him yo put up a solid defense That enton blade is hugh isnt burning thru sand dont make me laugh it burnt thru the juubi defense in that mini juubi in seconds
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Gaara little defenses stands no chance

and why isnt gaara getting far?,he can simply fly back wards easily. If sasuke uses a hawk,gaara simply downs it,that hawk is featless.
Sand armour easily tanks the flames,and gaara sheds the armour and puts up a new one. Fire and a punch are not the same thing,last time i checked 5 gated lee cudnt break it,kimimaro's cs2 bones only cracked it. So that point is mute.
Gaara's sand is not the same as sme mini clones that were getting beat by basicallu everyone. We have seen that the black flames dont burn his sand,and we have seen him block a sword without looking and with only a small portion of his defence,so that sword wont do anything,and this is assuming sasuke even gets in range without getting his legs crushed.
Sasuke's arrows got stuck in a rock pillar,madara's magatamas managed to breach gaara's sand wall which was stronger than steel and even damage onoki's rock golem which was much denser than a rocky pillar,then the arrows were deflected by chakra blades. The arrows dont move faster than the eyes can see,as kakashi saw it in order to use kamui and danzo without a sharingan saw it,it just moves so fast that you cant dodge it,but gaara dosent dodge,he blocks,which is what danzo did. Gaara dosent need to move,so he has no problem with the arrow speed,and if he can react to instant explosions,he can react to an arrow.
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good luck with that.
if you look at the scan, you'll see enton over sasuke's head, which means he fired off the enton at gaara's sand to defend himself from it, and also fired it off in the direction of gaara's siblings but the attacking sand got hit by it and gaara's auto defence moved infront of his siblings. Enton travels, that's how gaara blocked that. Take enton arrow or enton magatama as the best example; It's made of amaterasu but it doesn't spawn on target.

Ay used his after image to dodge. The amaterasu spawned on his V2 cloak, but before it could effectively touch his skin, he after imaged away and sasuke's vision caught a new target - the samurai - which instantly caught on fire. The amaterasu didn't travel from ay to the samurai, it just spawned on him. Amaterasu always bleeds the eye (as far as i can remember) but enton doesn't.

the scan before that one shows gaara's sand catching the enton attack,gaara could simpl have wanted to use that enton sand to attack him but was forced to stop when he attacked his siblings and thus he blocked it. Gaara's auto defence protects only him,not someone else,so he was the one who moved the sand around them. Also think about it,why would gaara use one stream of sand to fight an opponent with susanoo on?,he wouldnt,he would use several to attack.
Also if gaara atacked sasuke from above,then the enton would have hit the sand below,not infront as the scan before your own shows. A didnt use an afterimage to dodge,the attack came towards him and he used a body flicker,and since he moved so fast,an afterimage appeared,amaterasu still kept on going,like any projectile,the samurai isnt anywhere close to A speed,so naturally he got hit.
Wrong,enton arrows are not made of amaterasu,they are sasuke's normal arrows,but are coated with the black flames so that they nt only pierce but roast their target,you can ompare them to a normal arrow,then add fire to it and it becomes a fire arrow,thats enton arrow,just like his enton blade. They are just normal susanoo arrows coated in enton.
 

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I'd say Sasuke wins high diff in my opinion, if it weren't for Gaara. His sand is the biggest factor here. The only other thing that can be considered a threat is Mei's mist, but that can be easily countered by evaporating it with a Katon or the black flames. Ay is not a threat at all. The man has to forsake his limbs to even mount an attack, attacks that will do nothing to a V2 Susano'o. Tsunade is in the same boat, except the can do much more damage than Ay and regenerate will being burned. Sadly for her, one Amaterasu and she is done. She'll survive for a while even while being burned and continue to fight, but eventually she'll drop and I don't see her harming Sasuke. Mei is even easier, as he can kill her before she can even do anything. She is too slow and has no notable defense.
 

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Kages win mid diff. And those who think sasuke is comparable to madara need a wake up call.. In my opinion kages would rape sasuke...! Everyone saying sasuke would enton this and amaterasu that. Have u considered the fact that they are kages not some genin of konoha...!

He isn't comparable to Madara, but the Kages weren't comparable to Madara either. Madara had an extremely unserious mindset throughout the entire battle, allowing them to land shots on him just for the shits and giggles. He spent half of his time posing on a rock and cracking one-liners at them. Sasuke doesn't fight like that. He will open with Mangekyou techniques such as Enton shuriken / arrows and Amaterasu, all of which are undodgeable by everyone on the opposing team barring the Raikage and perhaps Gaara'a sand.
 

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He isn't comparable to Madara, but the Kages weren't comparable to Madara either. Madara had an extremely unserious mindset throughout the entire battle, allowing them to land shots on him just for the shits and giggles. He spent half of his time posing on a rock and cracking one-liners at them. Sasuke doesn't fight like that. He will open with Mangekyou techniques such as Enton shuriken / arrows and Amaterasu, all of which are undodgeable by everyone on the opposing team barring the Raikage.

He was forced to use Susanoo clones, meteors and the perfect Susanoo. He wasn't toying all the time.
 

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He was forced to use Susanoo clones, meteors and the perfect Susanoo. He wasn't toying all the time.

He wasn't "forced" to do anything. He chose to use them, but do not equate him deciding to use them to him being "forced" to. Being "forced" to would mean he had no other choice, but the man was far from being on the brink of defeat when drawing on those abilities.

Just look how quickly Madara finished the Kages when he decided it was time to go to Obito's battlefield. He off-paneled all of them quickly, presumably without even using Perfect Susano'o.
 

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He wasn't "forced" to do anything. He chose to use them, but do not equate him deciding to use them to him being "forced" to.

Just look how quickly Madara finished the Kages when he decided it was time to go to Obito's battlefield. He off-paneled all of them quickly, presumably without even using Perfect Susano'o.

You mean the half dead Kages who were run out of chakra? Wow, what an impressive feat.
 

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You mean the half dead Kages who were run out of chakra? Wow, what an impressive feat.

Tsunade was rehealed and presumably had enough chakra to reheal everybody else given she was doing it following bisection.
 

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He wasn't "forced" to do anything. He chose to use them, but do not equate him deciding to use them to him being "forced" to. Being "forced" to would mean he had no other choice, but the man was far from being on the brink of defeat when drawing on those abilities.

Just look how quickly Madara finished the Kages when he decided it was time to go to Obito's battlefield. He off-paneled all of them quickly, presumably without even using Perfect Susano'o.

madara was forced to use a wood clone when he was blown in half by tsunade,he was forced into ps by the 5 kage combined jutsu,he used a meteor attack which destroyed his own body,he used 25 susanoo clones which were all destroyed,he used flower world. Thats not toying,he was not going all out,but wasnt toying. He off paneled 5 out of chakra and half dead kages,not very impressive.


Tsunade was rehealed and presumably had enough chakra to reheal everybody else given she was doing it following bisection.

she turned into an old hag
 

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madara was forced to use a wood clone when he was blown in half by tsunade

You clearly do not understand how clones work. Madara used the clone as a distraction, he wasn't "forced" to use it. Clones are set up beforehand.

he was forced into ps by the 5 kage combined jutsu

Yes, because he was posing on a rock the entire time rather than taking the fight seriously.

he used a meteor attack which destroyed his own body

He wasn't forced to do that. He did it for the shits and giggles, and was taking into account he wouldn't die.

he used 25 susanoo clones which were all destroyed,he used flower world.

Listing the jutsu he used doesn't change the fact he wasn't taking the match seriously. His idea of a joke was to let Onoki hit him with Jinton just to show off Hashirama's face. He posed on a rock throughout the duration of the entire match cracking one liners at them.
 

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You clearly do not understand how clones work. Madara used the clone as a distraction, he wasn't "forced" to use it. Clones are set up beforehand.

The manga disagrees. Madara himself admitted he was forced to use a clone cuz he is fighting the Gokage.





Listing the jutsu he used doesn't change the fact he wasn't taking the match seriously. His idea of a joke was to let Onoki hit him with Jinton just to show off Hashirama's face. He posed on a rock throughout the duration of the entire match cracking one liners at them.


He also said he needs to break the Kages's willpower to defeat them. He obviously wasn't toying.
 

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You clearly do not understand how clones work. Madara used the clone as a distraction, he wasn't "forced" to use it. Clones are set up beforehand.



Yes, because he was posing on a rock the entire time rather than taking the fight seriously.



He wasn't forced to do that. He did it for the shits and giggles, and was taking into account he wouldn't die.



Listing the jutsu he used doesn't change the fact he wasn't taking the match seriously. His idea of a joke was to let Onoki hit him with Jinton just to show off Hashirama's face. He posed on a rock throughout the duration of the entire match cracking one liners at them.

er,no he took a blow from tsunade,got blown in half and would have been sealed had he not utilized the clone,IIRC either mei or tsunade told him that he really didnt have alternative at that time.

He identified onoki a a threat,and moved to kill him,only to get part of his body destroyed and nearly sealed,no one asked him to underrate the gokage.
That meteor was his most powerful he has shown,and all those other jutsus are all hugh powered techs,if madara,while using techs that changed a map,was playing,then in no way,shape of form would anyone compare sasuke's attacks to his own,which you people obviously do.
 

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He wanted to break their willpower because it was his idea of amusement. I'm not going to keep partaking in this back-and-forth gibber to state something that was painfully obvious, so I will end my involvement here with this closing statement:

The fact that Madara chose to pose and crack one-liners throughout the majority of the fight, and the fact that his idea of a joke was to let himself get hit by a superpowered laser [Jinton] all point to his extremely unserious and uncaring demeanor throughout the entire fight. Had he utilized the full extent of his known arsenal, the entire battlefield would have been littered with Shinra Tensei craters, mountain-sized meteors, kilometer long forests engulfed in wildfires, and five dead Kage after an anti-climactic two minute battle.
 
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He wanted to break their willpower because he thought it was his idea of amusement. I'm not going to keep partaking in this gibber, so I will close with this:

The fact that Madara chose to pose and crack one-liners throughout the entire fight, and the fact that his idea of a joke was to let himself get hit by Jinton all point to his extremely unserious demeanor throughout the entire fight. Had he utilized the full extent of his arsenal, the entire battlefield would have been littered with meteors, forests, wildfires, and dead Kage after an anti-climactic five minute battle.

So Nagato was toying with Jiraiya because he didn't used the Deva's abilities?
Naruto was toying with Sasuke because he didn't summoned Gamabunta? ( VotE)
Sasuke was toying with Mei because he didn't used Amaterasu or a simple genjutsu to escape/ defeat her?
Hashirama is toying with the Juubito because he didn't used the Buddha statue?

Do I need to continue?
 

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So sasuke looses right?
 
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