Sasuke using Tsukuyomi

[BenjerminGaye]

he doesn't have it. His genjutsu was never called tsukyomi.

His two ocular powers are amaterasu and enton

 

[Morrigan Aensland]

If he has it then he wouldve used it

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. Sasuke doesnt have it, fact

yea he wouldve but i think kishi wanted to keep itachi's specialty only to itachi so he made sasuke's inferior to the point where it wouldnt be used. but susanoo does need both jutsu to activate. here check it out

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[Draphsin]

The aim of a shinobi is to conserve chakra, Itachi doesn't need to because he's an Edo, but consider how long he'd been running Susano'o.

The poster above shows that he did use Tsukuyomi on Danzo.

Kishimoto based the whole thing from Japanese mythology. Susano'o was the brother of Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, hence why one cannot activate Susano'o without both techs.

Sasuke wasnt conserving chakra that battle lol, he spammed ama, and susanoo, which arguably causes just as much strain as tsukuyomi. Why would'nt Itachi immediately switch to his regular genjutsu? It makes no sense for him to use tsukuyomi, while his brother doesnt....

No, Danzo does not once say that sasuke's genjutsu is tsukuyomi. He only said that his genjutsu is inferior to Itachi's tsukuyomi (also genjutsu) which can control time. Danzo never referes to sasuke's genjutsu as tsukuyomi, therefore he never used it.

And about the japanese mythology....That only applies to Itachi. The only bit of evidence that says you need tsukuyomi and ama for susanoo is completely outdadted due to the fact that we now have 2 more susanoo users, If the dadtbook was made while keeping sasuke and madara in mind then they should be listed as casters of the technique also.

And finally, madara doesnt have either tsukuyomi or ama, and he has PS, so sasuke can and does not need to possess tsukuyomi

 

[Morrigan Aensland]

No, Danzo does not once say that sasuke's genjutsu is tsunkuyomi. He only said that his genjutsu is inferior to Itachi's tsukuyomi (also genjutsu) which can control time. Danzo never referes to sasuke's genjutsu as tsukuyomi, therefore he never used it.

And about the japanese mythology....That only applies to Itachi. The only bit of evidence that says you need tsukuyomi and ama for susanoo is completely outdadted due to the fact that we now have 2 more susanoo users, If the dadtbook was made while keeping sasuke and madara in mind then they should be listed as casters of the technique also.

And finally, madara doesnt have either tsukuyomi or ama, and he has PS, so sasuke can and does not possess tsukuyomi

damn gotta learn to listen to people bro. both madara and sasuke have both amaterasu and tsukuyomi. both are needed to activate susanoo

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Even if he can i hope he'll have enough chakra to make it back upto his feat lol

 

[Draphsin]

yea he wouldve but i think kishi wanted to keep itachi's specialty only to itachi so he made sasuke's inferior to the point where it wouldnt be used. but susanoo does need both jutsu to activate. here check it out

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Using naruto wiki to support you argument? :|

As i previously stated, the databook page that explains ama, is completely outdated, and therefore does not apply to the 2 new casters of the technique. This becomes apparent when neither sasuke or madara are listed as casters of the technique, effectively proving that the requirements on that databook page dont apply to them

damn gotta learn to listen to people bro. both madara and sasuke have both amaterasu and tsukuyomi. both are needed to activate susanoo

Excuse me and how can you confirm this..(you cant)....? Show me a manga page of madara using tsukuyomi, or ama?

 

[BlacLord™]

No, Danzo does not once say that sasuke's genjutsu is tsunkuyomi. He only said that his genjutsu is inferior to Itachi's tsukuyomi (also genjutsu) which can control time. Danzo never referes to sasuke's genjutsu as tsukuyomi, therefore he never used it.

And about the japanese mythology....That only applies to Itachi. The only bit of evidence that says you need tsukuyomi and ama for susanoo is completely outdadted due to the fact that we now have 2 more susanoo users, If the dadtbook was made while keeping sasuke and madara in mind then they should be listed as casters of the technique also.

And finally, madara doesnt have either tsukuyomi or ama, and he has PS, so sasuke can and does not possess tsukuyomi

Are you stalking me? xd

Unless you're Autistic, then you should be able to not to look at things literally, the guy above posted the manga page.

I'll explain as simply as I can, Danzo said "that's nothing compared to Itachi's Tsukuyomi", the first two words are said in an emphasised tone, telling you that he's referring to Tsukuyomi, the he goes on to say "which could alter the length of the illusion", this subordinate clause is making a comparison, when you put the main and subordinate clause together, you end up with a single comparative, meaning that one thing is being compared, one jutsu.

It wouldn't apply to one person and doesn't, why should it? Kishimoto isn't just going to change the basis of a whole idea, or specify something that general for one person.

He casts Amaterasu from his left eye, and Tsukuyomi from the right.
Example:

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He has his right eye open, specifically has his MS active; which I will note he didn't for the whole fight.

 

[Morrigan Aensland]

Using naruto wiki to support you argument? :|

As i previously stated, the databook page that explains ama, is completely outdated, and therefore does not apply to the 2 new casters of the technique. This becomes apparent when neither sasuke or madara are listed as casters of the technique, effectively proving that the requirements on that databook page dont apply to them



Excuse me and how can you confirm this..(you cant)....? Show me a manga page of madara using tsukuyomi, or ama?

idk have you ever thought that kishi didnt want to copy the specialities of certain characters to give to other?

 

[Draphsin]

Are you stalking me? xd

Unless you're Autistic, then you should be able to not to look at things literally, the guy above posted the manga page.

I'll explain as simply as I can, Danzo said "that's nothing compared to Itachi's Tsukuyomi", the first two words are said in an emphasised tone, telling you that he's referring to Tsukuyomi, the he goes on to say "which could alter the length of the illusion", this subordinate clause is making a comparison, when you put the main and subordinate clause together, you end up with a single comparative, meaning that one thing is being compared, one jutsu.

It wouldn't apply to one person and doesn't, why should it? Kishimoto isn't just going to change the basis of a whole idea, or specify something that general for one person.

He casts Amaterasu from his left eye, and Tsukuyomi from the right.
Example:

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He has his right eye open, specifically has his MS active; which I will note he didn't for the whole fight.

lol why the hell would I be stalking you...?

Unless your autistic, you will take facts literally and not paraphrase them because thats how you look at evidence. Its debating 101 U_U

Anyways danzo only calls sasuke's genjutsu an

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, if it was tsukuyomi then he would've called it as such, because tsukuyomi isnt an illusion its something more than that. It can control time, while sasuke hasnt been shown do do any such thing with his genjutsu.

Also that page you showed proved nothing. The scan I provided shows sasuke casting sharingan genjutsu with his EMS active as well.

Sasuke has never shown tsukuyomi, fact....

 

[Varrah]

He should have it now, thanks to Itachi's douryoku [eye powers] mixing with his after attaining the Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan.​

 

[Draphsin]

He should have it now, thanks to Itachi's douryoku [eye powers] mixing with his after attaining the Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan.​

But you agree he didnt have it during his fight with danzo?

EDIT: My point is that you dont need ama and tsukuyomi for susanoo

 

[Varrah]

But you agree he didnt have it during his fight with danzo?

EDIT: My point is that you dont need ama and tsukuyomi for susanoo

Due to Masashi going out of his way to have Sasuke use his Enton ability more than Tsukuyomi; yes, I do not believe Sasuke's Mangekyō Sharingan held that power for several reasons. ​

 

[BlacLord™]

lol why the hell would I be stalking you...?

Unless your autistic, you will take facts literally and not paraphrase them because thats how you look at evidence. Its debating 101 U_U

Anyways danzo only calls sasuke's genjutsu an

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, if it was tsukuyomi then he would've called it as such, because tsukuyomi isnt an illusion its something more than that. It can control time, while sasuke hasnt been shown do do any such thing with his genjutsu.

Also that page you showed proved nothing. The scan I provided shows sasuke casting sharingan genjutsu with his EMS active as well.

Sasuke has never shown tsukuyomi, fact....

Sasuke in the Kabuto fight couldn't keep spamming over and over, there had to be some element of conservation, besides what's the point in wasting chakra by casting two Tsukuyomis? Sasuke's genjutsu merely acted as backup for the better genjutsu. Plus, he might have been reserving some chakra for Susano'o.

Or, when Itachi told him to look into his eyes, he might've thought only to use a Sharingan genjutsu, they were in a tense moment, things get impulsive, besides Sasuke knows his Tsukuyomi isn't as good as Itachi's, so why waste the chakra? Answer that.

Plus, your phrase about me being Autistic makes no sense. If someone told you that they regret stabbing someone in the back, would you take that literally? Or how about breaking a leg?

 

[Morrigan Aensland]

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Due to Masashi going out of his way to have Sasuke use his Enton ability more than Tsukuyomi; yes, I do not believe Sasuke's Mangekyō Sharingan held that power for several reasons. ​

see i believe kishi is emphasising his enton over tsukuyomi because he emphasized on itachi's tsukuyomi. as for madara his susanoo is being emphasized cause he has PS. each uchiha with susanoo has a different emphasis on their techs but they all have amaterasu, tsukuyomi, and susanoo. also if you think about it all three have something special pertaining to each susanoo which i think links with part of their actuaul being