Sasuke Uchiha vs Nagato Uzumaki

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Soul dragon is not that useful unless nagato is on a team, otherwise he's a sitting duck.

That being said, deva path is more than enough to handle this, preta for defense.
 

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I don't think Sasuke has a PS as strong as Madara's. It just seems a bit too easy for Sasuke. Also the fact that he skipped the stage of stabilizing his Susanoo.

Nagato takes this.
 

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Are you kidding me. It took Itachi + KCM Naruto + Killer B to actually put up a challenge against Nagato. You're saying Sasuke > KCM Naruto + Itachi + Killer B ? Stick with dora the explorer.

OT: Nagato ends this really quick. Amaterasu isn't a factor here; Shinra Tensei takes care of that. All of Sasuke ninjutsu are negated by absorption and

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...this is an overkill. You said that Sasuke knows all Naruto did, and Naruto didn't know about the Gedo or Snake that crawls out.

Combine that with Chibaku tensei and Sasuke has no chance. Susano's complete susano would instantly shatter under the force of long-ranged shinra tensei. Arrows might put up a difficulty but since he's an Edo, he'll be able to regenerate.
 
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This depends on what people think of Sasuke's PS since we have no feats of it yet. I personally don't see why it'd be that far below Madara's own Perfect Susanoo so he should take this match. Though by feats he still loses.

I suppose you believe that the Perfect Susano'o Shockwave would kill Nagato, am I correct? Well, Sasuke's V3 legged version of Susano'o was capable of doing some kind of a minor shockwave [ ] so his Perfect Susano'o should be capable of producing one that would kill Nagato.

Just bringing this to the table. :p
 

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I suppose you believe that the Perfect Susano'o Shockwave would kill Nagato, am I correct? Well, Sasuke's V3 legged version of Susano'o was capable of doing some kind of a minor shockwave [ ] so his Perfect Susano'o should be capable of producing one that would kill Nagato.

Just bringing this to the table. :p

Until Nagato uses ST which creates an equilibrium with the shockwave generated by the PS. Shockwaves aren't the way to go against Deva abilities. Gedo Mazo can also equalise some pressure with abilities like this[ ]. Gedo can attack Susano with abilities like this [ ]. Abilites like would ignore Susano and go right through it since it is intangible.

Sasuke cannot hurt Nagato. Amateratsu can be sensed and absorbed with Preta, or repelled with Deva. Genjutsu doesn't work since as long as Nagato has summons, he can tell reality from illusion. Summoning his Giant multi headed Dog as he always does, their is no way he can be put under Genjutsu. The Dog will split if Sasuke tries to kill it, and the more it splits, the more angles Nagato can use to observe his opponent. Deva Path ST can repel PS shockwaves, Gedo can stand their and release shockwaves as well for assurance. If Sasuke tries to close in, Susano can be absorbed since it is a manifestation of chakra. PS Sword being swung at close range instead of long range would be a bad idea. PS Sword gets absorbed like the Chou Odama Rasengan did, force being a non-factor vs Preta's absorption. Meaning a swing of PS would generate lots of force, but this force is rendered useless once Preta begins absorbing the Sword. I don't see Sasuke tanking CT, leaving a Gedo Raiton chakra blast undamaged, and escaping the Gedo's soul consuming dragons. Hanzo could escape since he shunshin'd away from a exhausted and unexperienced child who doesn't know how to fully use his abilities. This intangible dragon combined with a Giant chameleon summon that was placed before hand, or a Bansho Tenin attractive force that sends Sasuke towards the dragon would end this match up. I see no way Sasuke wins, while I see many different ways Nagato can win.
 

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Only problem for Sasuke is Chibaku, 8 tails Kyuubi got out of it Final Susano'o will do the same. Itachi already showed us what Amaterasu will do to Nagato. Sasuke wins.
 

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Only problem for Sasuke is Chibaku, 8 tails Kyuubi got out of it Final Susano'o will do the same. Itachi already showed us what Amaterasu will do to Nagato. Sasuke wins.

I already got proven wrong on that by a certain someone lol :sweat:
 

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Sasuke stomps ps sword slashes end this
 

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Nagato wins near effortlessly.
 

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Only problem for Sasuke is Chibaku, 8 tails Kyuubi got out of it Final Susano'o will do the same. Itachi already showed us what Amaterasu will do to Nagato. Sasuke wins.

No... Naruto was trapped as he was in a smaller version of the Kurama. As time, passed Naruto grew his tails, and grew in size as well. Growing in size while you are within a compact force would generate immense pressure. With this pressure, and brute strength the 8 tailed Kurama, Naruto was capable of breaking out. Sasuke, on the other hand, is being implied that he will be capable of leaving the CT while he is within Final Susano'o. However, I doubt it is the case. Susano will be covered by a huge amount of soil (the ground and trees etc.) due to the huge size of Susano. This will make it even harder for Sasuke to escape, since he is being bound much tighter then v2 Naruto was. So saying Susano can break out of it when it doesn't have as much pressure as Kurama was surrounded with, and is surrounded b a lot more force is absurd. I am sure it has more strength, simply not enough strength. Sasuke wouldn't be capable of entering Susano if he goes in base into CT and attempts to increase his size. For one, he would be instantly killed by the pressure. And second of all, we don't know if his chakra would even manifest in such pressurised conditions.

From what I recall.. Nagato could even sense Amateratsu before Itachi used it [ ]. What makes you think he couldn't sense it when Sasuke uses it? And to your point, he was only hit because he wasn't aware Itachi had changed teams after KA occurred. If he was aware, he could've simply held a preta absorption barrier until Amateratsu was fired. Even Deva could amateratsu... Nagato wins.
 

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Either way. I now think Nagato still has this.
 

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We need more feats from Sasuke's PS.
 

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Until Sasuke gets some actual feats, he loses. If he can make a shockwave even close to Madara's then he wins.
 

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No... Naruto was trapped as he was in a smaller version of the Kurama. As time, passed Naruto grew his tails, and grew in size as well. Growing in size while you are within a compact force would generate immense pressure. With this pressure, and brute strength the 8 tailed Kurama, Naruto was capable of breaking out. Sasuke, on the other hand, is being implied that he will be capable of leaving the CT while he is within Final Susano'o. However, I doubt it is the case. Susano will be covered by a huge amount of soil (the ground and trees etc.) due to the huge size of Susano. This will make it even harder for Sasuke to escape, since he is being bound much tighter then v2 Naruto was. So saying Susano can break out of it when it doesn't have as much pressure as Kurama was surrounded with, and is surrounded b a lot more force is absurd. I am sure it has more strength, simply not enough strength. Sasuke wouldn't be capable of entering Susano if he goes in base into CT and attempts to increase his size. For one, he would be instantly killed by the pressure. And second of all, we don't know if his chakra would even manifest in such pressurised conditions.

From what I recall.. Nagato could even sense Amateratsu before Itachi used it [ ]. What makes you think he couldn't sense it when Sasuke uses it? And to your point, he was only hit because he wasn't aware Itachi had changed teams after KA occurred. If he was aware, he could've simply held a preta absorption barrier until Amateratsu was fired. Even Deva could amateratsu... Nagato wins.

PS brute streght smashes rite out of CT also the sword would cut the orb in half nagato wont even last longer than 2 ps sword slashes
 

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If Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo is as strong as Madara's Perfect Susanoo which i think it is do to many things such as(Tengu nose/PS head,PS shoulder blades,Fact that Madara was PS when he coated 100% Kurama due to the presence of PS-specific mountain range slicers,Sasuke claiming its the same thing madara did before,PS never stated to have a certain height requirement, and Susanoos varying in height at different stages)...then he ends Nagato with PS slash via Shockwave do Nagato not being able to absorb the shockwave impact with Gakidō(Preta Path) and absorbing the Perfect Susanoo is also completely useless do the fact it took for a while just to absorb Jiraiya's giant Rasengan...so, absorb something as big as a Bijuu(if not bigger) is out of the question.
 

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PS brute streght smashes rite out of CT also the sword would cut the orb in half nagato wont even last longer than 2 ps sword slashes

First of all, I doubt it is as strong as Madara's so stop using Madara's feats to make Sasuke stronger. Sasuke has no feats with it, implying he can do the same Madara did is fallacious. Ok, he can get out of the CT, he still doesn't win. You still can't counter my other reasons as to why Nagato wins. Preta could absorb any of Sasuke's attacks, and absorb Susano. Deva toys with Sasuke, and avoids any of Sasuke's attacks. Asura helps Nagato tank abilities. Gedo tanks the majority of attacks and can kill Sasuke. Animal summonings can also destroy Sasuke. Nagato's chakra>Sasuke's chakra by far. So Sasuke has no feats that are beyond Nagato's apart from PS's destructive force and durability. Nagato's shinra tensei is more than enough to cause an equilibrium or heavily reduce the momentum to the point in which Asura's abilities to turn Nagato to steel could potentially tank it. Nagato's regular ST Feats [ ] and threw away 3 giant toads effortlessly [ ] in addition to Gamabunta's bones. And these were weaker ST's which only required 5 seconds to regenerate from. Nagato can always use a stronger ST with the disadvantage being a longer term of halt until he can use his next ST incase he is in heavy danger. Nagato can absorb Susano as well with Preta path. He can use the multi headed dog which wouldn't be affected by Susano since it will simply keep splitting. If it splits enough it may somewhat impact Sasuke's PS as it would restrain it due to sheer number. Rhino can be their to **** with the PS among other summons. Sasuke has no way of winning against a user of the rinnegan.

Sasuke cannot cut mountains with PS. His PS won't be this big. He won't generate enough force to create such shockwave. Unless you can demonstrate feats of Sasuke's PS, you have no argument. It is almost like saying Madara's Katon=Sasuke's Katon only because they have the same name. Sasuke's Katon clearly isn't on par with Madara's even if it is the same exact jutsu.
 

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First of all, I doubt it is as strong as Madara's so stop using Madara's feats to make Sasuke stronger. Sasuke has no feats with it, implying he can do the same Madara did is fallacious. Ok, he can get out of the CT, he still doesn't win. You still can't counter my other reasons as to why Nagato wins. Preta could absorb any of Sasuke's attacks, and absorb Susano. Deva toys with Sasuke, and avoids any of Sasuke's attacks. Asura helps Nagato tank abilities. Gedo tanks the majority of attacks and can kill Sasuke. Animal summonings can also destroy Sasuke. Nagato's chakra>Sasuke's chakra by far. So Sasuke has no feats that are beyond Nagato's apart from PS's destructive force and durability. Nagato's shinra tensei is more than enough to cause an equilibrium or heavily reduce the momentum to the point in which Asura's abilities to turn Nagato to steel could potentially tank it. Nagato's regular ST Feats [ ] and threw away 3 giant toads effortlessly [ ] in addition to Gamabunta's bones. And these were weaker ST's which only required 5 seconds to regenerate from. Nagato can always use a stronger ST with the disadvantage being a longer term of halt until he can use his next ST incase he is in heavy danger. Nagato can absorb Susano as well with Preta path. He can use the multi headed dog which wouldn't be affected by Susano since it will simply keep splitting. If it splits enough it may somewhat impact Sasuke's PS as it would restrain it due to sheer number. Rhino can be their to **** with the PS among other summons. Sasuke has no way of winning against a user of the rinnegan.

Sasuke cannot cut mountains with PS. His PS won't be this big. He won't generate enough force to create such shockwave. Unless you can demonstrate feats of Sasuke's PS, you have no argument. It is almost like saying Madara's Katon=Sasuke's Katon only because they have the same name. Sasuke's Katon clearly isn't on par with Madara's even if it is the same exact jutsu.

Giant wall of nonsense Susanoo is susanoo i bet you would say madara v1 susanoo could tank this

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why because sasuke did no susanoo is greater than another when your comparing the same forms such as Ribcage=Ribcage V1=V1 PS=PS sasuke susanoo is not smaller he needed it to be the right size to fit around kuramas avatar if that was madara doing the fusion with naruto it would be just the same using the katon thing makes no sense when its not coming from his dojutsu susanoo=susanoo as Itachi amaterasu = Sasuke amaterasu no enton tho

PS shockwaves destroys him S/T isnt even worth talking about
 

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Sasuke without Ps could take this... So current Sasuke takes this with ease...
 
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