Sasuke Uchiha vs. Nagato Uzumaki

[Shura]

I don't think you understand what the term perfect means. Let me help you out. Sasuke's susano is a complete Susano, meaning it has all the its body parts. It's complete, not perfect because there is room for development/improvement, whereas Madara's Susano is at its best. There is no room for improvements.

It's the same exact thing Madara did. Sasuke said it himself. What are you talking about? The Susano'o Sasuke used in today's chapter is the Susano'o we call Perfect Susano'o. Sasuke said it himself;

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Lord help us. Sasuke knew susano covered the kyuubi, thats all. Do you think they specified that this was PS? Lol

Inoutlining the kyuubi's form of course the shape will alter. The power, size, etc remains unknown yet you call this PS because of its head lol

Lol. Sasuke haters... Always the same.. They can't get over the fact that Sasuke just got stronger than their fave.

Look buddy. Sasuke said it himself. It has the nose the Perfect Susano'o has and it has that diamond thing where Madara stands in his PS. It's PS. Get over it. It's the same exact thing Madara used in his battle with Hashirama.

 

[KidGamer65]

I meant current Kyubi w/ Naruto. They are both sharing their chakra together aren't they. Naruto is meddling his chakra with kuramas to strengthen the potency of their chakra mix to the maximum instead of Kurama alone.

Naruto's chakra reserves alone aren't going to make Kurama return anywhere near his original size, not even close. Unless you believe Naruto has chakra equal to half of Kurama, which is false. Not to mention when he enters BM, he uses a set amount of chakra that Kurama gives him. [

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[Awkward Linguist]

It's the same exact thing Madara did. Sasuke said it himself. What are you talking about? The Susano'o Sasuke used in today's chapter is the Susano'o we call Perfect Susano'o. Sasuke said it himself;

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You have issues with comprehending basic stuff. Being able to coat Naruto's bijuu mode chakra isn't what you call perfect susano, you doughnut. He only summoned a layer of Susano to coat Naruto's bijuu chakra. This requires the ability to summon different parts of the susano, which like i said, Itachi, Madara and sasuke have already proven. Perfect Susano is when a Susano is in Madara's league. Sasuke's definitely isn't, though it may in the future. Additionally in your manga scan, Sasuke doesn't say "perfect susano", he just said "Does this feel as what madara did in the past?" This does not by any means imply that it's perfect Susano.

Go back to school, kiddo.

 

[HNIC]

It's the same exact thing Madara did. Sasuke said it himself. What are you talking about? The Susano'o Sasuke used in today's chapter is the Susano'o we call Perfect Susano'o. Sasuke said it himself;

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Lol. Sasuke haters... Always the same.. They can't get over the fact that Sasuke just got stronger than their fave.

Look buddy. Sasuke said it himself. It has the nose the Perfect Susano'o has and it has that diamond thing where Madara stands in his PS. It's PS. Get over it. It's the same exact thing Madara used in his battle with Hashirama.

Hater? I know MS Sasuke beats my fave. Im not a child basing this off favoritism, you simply have no proof of this being PS, let alone using Madara's PS feats in comparison.

Sasuke said this is PS? No, so invalid.

 

[Shura]

You have issues with comprehending basic stuff. Being able to coat Naruto's bijuu mode chakra isn't what you call perfect susano, you doughnut. He only summoned a layer of Susano to coat Naruto's bijuu chakra. This requires the ability to summon different parts of the susano, which like i said, Itachi, Madara and sasuke have already proven. Perfect Susano is when a Susano is in Madara's league. Sasuke's definitely isn't, though it may in the future. Additionally in your manga scan, Sasuke doesn't say "perfect susano", he just said "Does this feel as what madara did in the past?" This does not by any means imply that it's perfect Susano.

Go back to school, kiddo.

No. I understand what you mean, but no that's not true. We know that Madara used Perfect Susano'o in his battle against Hashirama. And now let's look at what Madara used against Hashirama;

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Now let's look at what Sasuke used in today's chapter;

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What's this? They appear to be the same? Interesting..

The only thing that is different is the size, but Sasuke needed to make it smaller so that it could fit on the 50% Kurama. After all, he can't wear an oversized armor.

Then you say:

Additionally in your manga scan, Sasuke doesn't say "perfect susano", he just said "Does this feel as what madara did in the past?" This does not by any means imply that it's perfect Susano.

What else does it mean? Sasuke used all versions of Susano'os Madara used except the Perfect Susano'o, but when he activated this new Susano'o (PS) he suddenly said that which implies that he clearly is talking about the PS.


Sasuke used the Susano'o that Kishi likes to call ''Perfect Susano'o'' in today's chapter.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Naruto's chakra reserves alone aren't going to make Kurama return anywhere near his original size, not even close. Unless you believe Naruto has chakra equal to half of Kurama, which is false. Not to mention when he enters BM, he uses a set amount of chakra that Kurama gives him. [

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No, I don't think that, I just think Kurama is shape shifting the chakra shroad into his original size.

Lets compare Kyuubi to trees and Gyuuki

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How much bigger is he on his legs?

 

[HNIC]

One previous chapter Sasuke is noted as being inferior to Madara, now all of a sudden he has PS. PS being Mdara's ultimate feat. People aren't even taking into consideration that Naruto's power is included, they BOTH put their hand forward in that last strike, yet the scan only showed Naruto.

I'll leave it at that. I don't expect much from users on here anyway, one is never neutral.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

No. I understand what you mean, but no that's not true. We know that Madara used Perfect Susano'o in his battle against Hashirama. And now let's look at what Madara used against Hashirama;

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Now let's look at what Sasuke used in today's chapter;

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What's this? They appear to be the same? Interesting..

The only thing that is different is the size, but Sasuke needed to make it smaller so that it could fit on the 50% Kurama. After all, he can't wear an oversized armor.

Then you say:



What else does it mean? Sasuke used all versions of Susano'os Madara used except the Perfect Susano'o, but when he activated this new Susano'o (PS) he suddenly said that which implies that he clearly is talking about the PS.


Sasuke used the Susano'o that Kishi likes to call ''Perfect Susano'o'' in today's chapter.

You are hopeless to debate with. You provide weak counters to my point and you're as ignorant of facts as ever. There's no point in debating really, when your opponent keeps sticking onto the same crap.

Name one fucking time in the Manga that it was stated Sasuke had perfect Susano?

 

[KidGamer65]

Whatever the hell people wanna call it, it as clear as day that the Susanoo Sasuke used is the same level of Susanoo as Madara's PS, anyone saying otherwise is simply in denial and can't be taken seriously.

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Shoulder Guards, Nose, Armor are all exactly the same. Swords are similar. I agree that we can't hand over his feats to Sasuke, but its clear that this is a variant of PS

 

[Shura]

Whatever the hell people wanna call it, it as clear as day that the Susanoo Sasuke used is the same level of Susanoo as Madara's PS, anyone saying otherwise is simply in denial and can't be taken seriously.

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Shoulder Guards, Nose, Armor are all exactly the same. Swords are similar.

Thank you man.. Just thank you..

 

[Optimistic]

Logical Debater: Insults people's rebuttals saying how weak they're.....then exits thread never to return.

So badass.

 

[KidGamer65]

No, I don't think that, I just think Kurama is shape shifting the chakra shroad into his original size.

Lets compare Kyuubi to trees and Gyuuki

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How much bigger is he on his legs?

I highly doubt that 50% Kurama is going to be able to make a chakra shroud representing his Full size, as he only has half the chakra.

Kurama looks bigger from this scan.

 

[Draphsin]

No, I don't think that, I just think Kurama is shape shifting the chakra shroad into his original size.

Lets compare Kyuubi to trees and Gyuuki

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How much bigger is he on his legs?

Let's use people as a basis for comparison instead of just perspective, which could be contorted depending on the angle of the picture.

Thee two images below are face shots of 100% & yang kurama respectively. There is a clear difference in size when comparing madara/naruto to kurama's features.

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[Brother Numpsay]

I highly doubt that 50% Kurama is going to be able to make a chakra shroud representing his Full size, as he only has half the chakra.

Kurama looks bigger from this scan.

Why not, Buijuu like v2 has shown to stretch their arms, even bigger then them [

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]. 50 is not that far off in 100 in size, and he is not using his original body with Naruto.

Kyuubi may be a bit longer but take into consideration when he is walking on four legs in this situation. Then compare both of them to the trees. They are roughly the same range in size.

 

[KidGamer65]

Why not, Buijuu like v2 has shown to stretch their arms, even bigger then them [

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]. 50 is not that far off in 100 in size, and he is not using his original body with Naruto.

Kyuubi may be a bit longer but take into consideration when he is walking on four legs in this situation. Then compare both of them to the trees. They are roughly the same range in size.

Bijuu stretching their arms doesn't mean that Kurama is going to make his cloak double in size. As for the rest, read Drasphin's post.

Let's use people as a basis for comparison instead of just perspective, which could be contorted depending on the angle of the picture.

There two images are face shots of 100% & yang kurama respectively. There is a clear difference in size when comparing the two to kurama's features.

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[Brother Numpsay]

Bijuu stretching their arms doesn't mean that Kurama is going to make his cloak double in size. As for the rest, read Drasphin's post.

@Dra in that scan it was small but in this scan I will post that face was able to fit more them 2 people right after:

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[Draphsin]

@Dra in that scan it was small but in this scan I will post that face was able to fit more them 2 people right after:

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Yes as I said the perspective can contort the image, which is why I said we should compare the people, & to kurama's features.

Notice in the scan that you posted, kurama/gai/kakashi are always & in every situation larger than kurama's eye. Madara arguably fits comfortably inside of kurama's eye. Accoring to kurama's features, naruto is about twice the size of kurama's eye while madara is about the same size.

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[Brother Numpsay]

Yes as I said the perspective can contort the image, which is why I said we should compare the people, & to kurama's features.

Notice in the scan that you posted, kurama/gai/kakashi are always & in every situation larger than kurama's eye. Madara arguably fits comfortably inside of kurama's eye. Accoring to kurama's features, naruto is about twice the size of kurama's eye while madara is about the same size.

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Ight. There is still one problem and that is the size in general. We can conclude that 100 is thicker from these scans but the fact remain is NaruKyubii is still roughly the same size.

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If you look here the toads face is the same size as Kurama, ears make it look longer. I still fail to see how its much bigger then "it can be currently".

 

[Bronze]

For all the people who think Sasuke doesn't have PS, you need your eyes checked seriously. Sasuke stated that Susanoo he was using was the same as Madara's in the past confirmed by *********** [

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]. Looking at Hashirama's face expression, he will think the same. So PS Sasuke used was the same. However we are not sure if he can use enton, so his PS feats cannot be equal to Madara's.

As for Kyuubi size and Naruto's BM, they are not the same size. Look at this scan:

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100% Kyuubi head is freaking huge and Madara could barely fit in its eyes, while Naruto is bigger than 50% Kyuubi eyes.

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100% Kyuubi is 7x times bigger than 50% Kyuubi looking at this scan.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

For all the people who think Sasuke doesn't have PS, you need your eyes checked seriously. Sasuke stated that Susanoo he was using was the same as Madara's in the past confirmed by *********** [

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]. Looking at Hashirama's face expression, he will think the same. So PS Sasuke used was the same. However we are not sure if he can use enton, so his PS feats cannot be equal to Madara's.

As for Kyuubi size and Naruto's BM, they are not the same size. Look at this scan:

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100% Kyuubi head is freaking huge and Madara could barely fit in its eyes, while Naruto is bigger than 50% Kyuubi eyes.

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100% Kyuubi is 7x times bigger than 50% Kyuubi looking at this scan.

50 percent is the same size as Kurama inside Naruto but when coming out in Full buijuu Mode he is the same size as all the Buijuus.