Sasuke tried to gain MS through killing naruto?

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In the beggining of shippuden Sasuke tried to kill naruto. I didn't care why at the time. Looking back though was Sasukes motive to gain MS? If so does that still mean he cared about team 7 and his friendship with Naruto? I find that hard to believe Sasuke was completely indifferent during his time as hebi Sasuke. Still though Sasuke doesn't do things without motives and he wasn't completely evil at that point and was still against uneducated killing as he refused to kill even one of Orochimarus henchmen during training.
 

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no, nope, nah, and you're too many years to late...

but am bored at work so:

only m'Lord Crow who solos NV was he solely bent on murdering after that last minute change of heart when he'd already ruined naruto's chest cavity,lung, and life inb4 kyuubi juice boost p1. Hebi dgaf about anyone or anything at that time besides getting beasty in order to out beast ItaSama and he really was going to let Kirin bust down on em nonchalantly to rid himself of a few gnats who clearly didn't want any friction atm not to mention one last time that Le Sauce decided against obtaining MS they way his brother told him to and focused on 3t savagery.
 

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In the beggining of shippuden Sasuke tried to kill naruto. I didn't care why at the time. Looking back though was Sasukes motive to gain MS? If so does that still mean he cared about team 7 and his friendship with Naruto? I find that hard to believe Sasuke was completely indifferent during his time as hebi Sasuke. Still though Sasuke doesn't do things without motives and he wasn't completely evil at that point and was still against uneducated killing as he refused to kill even one of Orochimarus henchmen during training.
Truthfully, Sasuke didn’t fully grasp the concept of the Mangekyou sharingan until Itachi explained it to him before their final “fight”. As proof of this, Sasuke thought that his 3 tomoe was a match for Itachi’s Mangekyou, primarily because his 3 tomoe allowed him to suppress Kurama’s chakra by peering through Naruto.

TLDR: No he wasn’t trying to get the MS because he thought he’d already attained its power equivalent.
 
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I understood back then that he knew about attaining MS by killing his best friend who was Naruto, but he decided to do it his way not like Itachi told him in the genjutsu. At least that i remeber..
And yeah, you are so late with it!
 

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He literally blitzed team kakashi and decided to have a conversation with Naruto and slowly drew his sword.

The same man who has done this:


He wasn't trying to kill or fight anyone. He escalated the situation intentionally by attempting to use Karin and provoking the others to defend Naruto.



Actually killing Naruto at this time would be exactly what he believed Itachi expected of him. He wanted Naruto to give up on chasing him with a show of force and telling him what he's doing is a waste of time. He momentarily succeeded given how Naruto started sobbing due to their gap in power.

He convinced everyone that he was willing to allow Orochimaru to take his body if it meant killing itachi (that was a lie) and that him sparing Naruto was a whim (also a lie). Hebi Sasuke actually cared about Team 7 and Team Hebi/Taka, up until the Kage summit situation in which he had no issue killing others and breaking ties.

-Sasuke and Naruto both pulled their punches in their final clash at Vote 1.
-Sasuke decided not to kill him out of rebellion.
-Naruto did not understand why he didn't die that die
-Sasuke lied and told him it was a whim
 
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He literally blitzed team kakashi and decided to have a conversation with Naruto and slowly drew his sword.

The same man who has done this:


He wasn't trying to kill or fight anyone. He escalated the situation intentionally by attempting to use Karin and provoking the others to defend Naruto.
I think you meant Kirin, but on that point do you think it was Kirin as their was no set up for it or was it something else? If it was Kirin then is Kishi trying to tell us Sasuke had other ways to use it?:unsure:

Ps. Use SPOILER tags.
 

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I think you meant Kirin, but on that point do you think it was Kirin as their was no set up for it or was it something else? If it was Kirin then is Kishi trying to tell us Sasuke had other ways to use it?:unsure:

Ps. Use SPOILER tags.
Auto-correct made it karin. I believe it was a form of Kirin, maybe a lesser form but ultimately damaging enough to kill them. Either way it was something that warranted Orochimaru stepping in.
 
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Auto-correct made it karin. I believe it was a form of Kirin, maybe a lesser form but ultimately damaging enough to kill them. Either way it was something that warranted Orochimaru stepping in.
So it may be that thunder crap arrow(Boruto's) is a fodder version of Sasuke's lesser version of Kirin. I think you're right whatever it was Orochimaru thought it was dangerous enough to neg Naruto(who could even go 4 tails) and the crew.
 

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if saskey want him dead it would be over in one second.......he just have to act mean so naruto stop pursuing him and doing a dangerous things......also he have to keep his mean guy act up in oro presence.......
 

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Yeah, he didn't. He said that he isn't going to do things the way Itachi wants but rather he's going to do it his own way. That's why he spared Naruto's life back in VOTE 1 and he didn't really want to kill him in early Shippuden. The only time he really wanted to kill him was at VOTE 2, but that, for me, was really farfetched and Kishi did it just to please his fans who wanted Naruto vs Sasuke finale since day 1. I wasn't one of them, I probably would've liked the fight if it didn't last like, 5 chapters and 2 episodes. VOTE 1 >>> VOTE 2, but that's really offtopic.
 

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Sasuke morality conflicted with him gaining true power. If you really look back at part one, sasuke began to be happy, feel like a family. Sasuke real feelings was for Sakura, and he gained power ups every time she was in danger. During the gaara battle sasuke literally stated that he wasn’t willing to lose her, because he lost everything before. So her death or rather him killing her would’ve been the trigger back in part 1, which is why he switched his attention to Naruto, because Naruto was disposable to him.

Also hebi sasuke wasn’t at all evil, he was pretending. He was non lethal to Naruto sai and Sakura
 

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Then why did he try to kill Naruto?
He literally blitzed team kakashi and decided to have a conversation with Naruto and slowly drew his sword.

The same man who has done this:


He wasn't trying to kill or fight anyone. He escalated the situation intentionally by attempting to use Karin and provoking the others to defend Naruto.



Actually killing Naruto at this time would be exactly what he believed Itachi expected of him. He wanted Naruto to give up on chasing him with a show of force and telling him what he's doing is a waste of time. He momentarily succeeded given how Naruto started sobbing due to their gap in power.

He convinced everyone that he was willing to allow Orochimaru to take his body if it meant killing itachi (that was a lie) and that him sparing Naruto was a whim (also a lie). Hebi Sasuke actually cared about Team 7 and Team Hebi/Taka, up until the Kage summit situation in which he had no issue killing others and breaking ties.

-Sasuke and Naruto both pulled their punches in their final clash at Vote 1.
-Sasuke decided not to kill him out of rebellion.
-Naruto did not understand why he didn't die that die
-Sasuke lied and told him it was a whim
all i'm saying is that he was going to wipe them tf out and not bat an eye or think/feel anything of it... he didn't lie about allowing naruto to live because the proof is evident and stated as such that on a whim he changed his mind and decided to kill his brother his own way. he knew damn well his 3t wasn't strong enough only that he obtained enough mastery over it to feel confident in his present ability to solo his bro who in fact cannot be soloed which is manga fact and authorial intent up until end of series praises yet i digress:

i'd be wholly on your side IF he didn't load chakra whilst cumulonimbus were above and telling Oro to fall tf back and only really conceded after Kabuto mentioned their heightened chance of success at revenge allowing them to live.

It shows that as indifferent as he was in this instance he wouldn't have achieved MS imo and Hebi isn't a hollywood type... yes common sense dictates someone would step in but if they hadn't there'd be a skewered Naruto about to commence jin-juicin' inb4 shutdown and that Sasuke is the same "i only intend to kill 1 person" guy yet once you're in his way outside of training he'll attempt to drop you on sight if you're hindering his revenge as in the case of Deidara and Tobi as well.

Also Naruto really was tryna BODY bro vote1 to bring him home and it could be said he tried to take his head off due to only missing his final clawed swipe from recoiling against Sasuke's feinted punch which would have re-punctured him had he kept fingers extended most likely.

and this was AFTER Sasuke gleefully put his whole forearm through Naruto chest cavity and lung and still only because Naruto diverted the heart stab that was originally targeted as he got kyuubi-juiced before contact... so it's only fair/factual Sasuke pulled final punch after failing to commit murder as he intended and Naruto was just seeing red imo

i'm with you though, just wanna play devil's advocate.
 
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