Sasuke surpassed Hagoromo

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When Sasuke dies and is able to manifest his spirit back into the physical plain of existence and summon other dead kage, use chibaku tensei, give power ups and seals to to people; then we will talk. Until then, Sasuke <<<< Hagormo.
 

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When Sasuke dies and is able to manifest his spirit back into the physical plain of existence and summon other dead kage, use chibaku tensei, give power ups and seals to to people; then we will talk. Until then, Sasuke <<<< Hagormo.

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When Sasuke dies and is able to manifest his spirit back into the physical plain of existence and summon other dead kage, use chibaku tensei, give power ups and seals to to people; then we will talk. Until then, Sasuke <<<< Hagormo.

Hagoromo can't hop dimensions so...
 

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His current level is much below that of Hagoromo's . Maybe he hasn't been practicing much. Just take a look at the Shin fight.
 

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Hagoromo can't hop dimensions so...

still he fought Juubi which is Kaguya combined with God Tree, may I remind you this fact ?
Hagoromo could watch Naruto and Sasuke vs Kaguya from other dimenssion
Hagoromo was not afraid even once, also he knows how to bring them back.
I am sure he can counter it easily, but even if not let's wait for Sasuke's hpping dimenssion feats first before jumping to conclusion, can not we ?
 

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still he fought Juubi which is Kaguya combined with God Tree, may I remind you this fact ?
Hagoromo could watch Naruto and Sasuke vs Kaguya from other dimenssion
Hagoromo was not afraid even once, also he knows how to bring them back.
I am sure he can counter it easily, but even if not let's wait for Sasuke's hpping dimenssion feats first before jumping to conclusion, can not we ?
Kaguya is stronger than the Juubi. He fought the Juubi with Hamura's help. Sasuke fought Kaguya with Naruto's help.
 

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Kaguya is stronger than the Juubi. He fought the Juubi with Hamura's help. Sasuke fought Kaguya with Naruto's help.

any proof that Complete Juubi back then which is Past Kaguya(all chakra except Hagoromo and Hamura) is weaker then Kaguya(all chakra except Naruto, Sasuke, Obito,Kakashi, Sakura) who Naruto and Sasuke fought, really ?

Let alone comparing that Juubi to Juubi Obito used or even Madara, sorry but they are not compareble but I am open to hear your arguments.
 

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any proof that Complete Juubi back then which is Past Kaguya(all chakra except Hagoromo and Hamura) is weaker then Kaguya(all chakra except Naruto, Sasuke, Obito,Kakashi, Sakura) who Naruto and Sasuke fought, really ?

Let alone comparing that Juubi to Juubi Obito used or even Madara, sorry but they are not compareble but I am open to hear your arguments.

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Didn't Hagoromo manifest himself in Kaguya's dimension and then transport Team 7 back to their dimension?

Only in Edo hokage dimension and naruto sasuke conciousness since he's ghost
 

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Cool, the problem here is that Naruto and Sasuke have only seen Ten tails at it's weakest as it lacked Almost full Kurama and Full Gyuuki chakra. Considering how more powerfull Tailed beasts get around Gyuuki, not even mentioning Kurama in compare to other Tailed beasts then I can believe the gap would be massive.

This comparing that Kaguya who absorbed people's chakra to that Juubi trying to prove Kaguya > Past Juubi is wrong.
I mean If Juubi absorbed chakra from IT then technically in both cases we have Kaguya which gives us equal result. Do the math
 

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Hagoromo mastered Rinnegan to the highest possible level - Kishi words

Can there be something then the biggest/greatest ?, No

Does chakra control guarante win if you are much infferior in chakra level ? Nope

Do the math

-Kishis words? really now...lol

- Again what? lol

- It has to do with his skill level. In terms of skill logically Sasuke > HAgo
 

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No. This is one thing I would never agree on. There is a maw of difference between Sasuke and Hogoromo in regards to power. Add Naruto to the mix, and both of them are still beaten shamefully, because of the Sage's ultimate command over Inton and Youton to use the Jutsu Creation of all Things.
 

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-Kishis words? really now...lol

- Again what? lol

- It has to do with his skill level. In terms of skill logically Sasuke > HAgo

1. Yeah these were Kishi's words
2. That was correct so what is funny with this lol ?
3. Could be but until I see Sasuke using mastered ability of six paths I can not believe it.

Even if that would be case it would be slightly difference while gap in destructive power or raw power generally between TTH hagoromo and Sasuke is too vast to ignore, sorry.
 

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1. Yeah these were Kishi's words
2. That was correct so what is funny with this lol ?
3. Could be but until I see Sasuke using mastered ability of six paths I can not believe it.

Even if that would be case it would be slightly difference while gap in destructive power or raw power generally between TTH hagoromo and Sasuke is too vast to ignore, sorry.
When I see Hagoromo fully master Rinnegan I'll believe it
 

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So that makes VOTE 2 naruto stronger than Hagoromo as he defeated sasuke.

Gaiden Naruto > VOTE 2 Naruto > VOTE 2 Sasuke > Gaiden Sasuke
 
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