Sasuke senjutsu evolution.

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You've forgotten that he received Hashirama's genetic material; something that would provide that quality.

So what? Madara had a lot of hashirama's DNA in him as well, but still needed to absorb ready made senjutsu chakra from hashirama.

Sasuke is no different, he can handle senjutsu chakra but can't create it.
 

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You and these threads man...

Fanfic once again, smh


You're just denying a thread which doesn't have anything wrong.


One can never be a senjutsu master if they can't create senjutsu chakra by themselves
Nice fanfiction by the way

Sasuke curse mode naturally absorb senjutsu for him.


Sasuke is compatible with Senjutsu, but cannot harness it on his own without the Cursed Seal.

People start saying he can't use senjutsu without curse seal. I never said that he could in the first place.
 
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Only haters would deny U_U
Great thread as always
 

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Sasuke curse mode naturally absorb senjutsu for him.

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That's not him making the senjutsu chakra. That is like me saying naruto is the one who produces kurama's chakra

Sasuke can't be considered a senjutsu master unless he can create senjutsu chakra himself.
 

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Took him over 10+ too use Senjutsu which was Borrowed LMFAO

Senjutsu is the users Physical energy + Mental energy + natural energy - Natural energy itself is from an outside source so anyone who uses Senjutsu has "borrowed" power.

Also Sasuke mastered the CM inbetween part 1 and 2 ,which was 2-4 years since he first got the CM.Perhaps you forget how much the CM negatively effected him,and how few people survive it,and even less are even able to use Senjutsu at all.
 

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So what? Madara had a lot of hashirama's DNA in him as well, but still needed to absorb ready made senjutsu chakra from hashirama.

Sasuke is no different, he can handle senjutsu chakra but can't create it.


Haha you think so? I'll enlighten you then ;p

The Kage summit exposed that Jugo's ability to absorb Natural energy is a similar biological function as Hashirama absorbing Natural energy through Mokuton; it was a foundation later built upon after we witnessed . The effects brought about were easily observed as the Zetsu spores within Sasuke's body grew to maximum extent. Another showcasing of this phenomenon was highlighted when a Gedo Mazou sitting atop a Mokuton flower, continually harnessing Natural energy which was then used to enhance things from to : An amplifier more or less.
 

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So what? Madara had a lot of hashirama's DNA in him as well, but still needed to absorb ready made senjutsu chakra from hashirama.

Sasuke is no different, he can handle senjutsu chakra but can't create it.


lol,this guy stole my comment,made a thread,and gave me no credit.

 

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the imbeciles are anyone who called his points listed fan fiction, because they are true, except the last one where he called him a master, which i corrected in my post, but clearly that was difficult for you to comprehend.

Nothing was difficult for me to comprehend, unless you made a correction a short while ago, the way you first posted suggested you agreed with the OP mostly, especially how you claimed that he was somehow better than naruto(someone who has mastered senjutsu) in manipulating raw natural energy.
 

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Oh Gerkak; as for Maddy ... unfortunately, even when having the material implanted could not have utilized Hashirama's techniques and Jutsu due to the Mokuton implanted within his chest being nonreactive. For him to activate them he would require the potential to gather natural energy with his own, a task Kabuto had to complete [theorizing: via the Curse seal] himself thus giving him Mokuton and making him beyond that of his previous potential.
 

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lol,this guy stole my comment,made a thread,and gave me no credit.


Lol wow.

Oh Gerkak; as for Maddy ... unfortunately, even when having the material implanted could not have utilized Hashirama's techniques and Jutsu due to the Mokuton implanted within his chest being nonreactive. For him to activate them he would require the potential to gather natural energy with his own, a task Kabuto had to complete [theorizing: via the Curse seal] himself thus giving him Mokuton and making him beyond that of his previous potential.

Actually, that's not quite accurate, at least I don't think it is. Madara's hashirama implat was reactive otherwise his rinnegan wouldn't have awakened. The ability to gather natural energy has nothing to do with mokuton, in other words it isn't a requirement. Mokuton has been used by non senjutsu users e.g obito, guruguru, yamato, zetsu etc

I do agree kabuto did enhance madara, but only by increasing his hashirama cell infusion and ressurrecting him in his prime with his rinnegan. Madara has no CM to my knowledge


Haha you think so? I'll enlighten you then ;p

The Kage summit exposed that Jugo's ability to absorb Natural energy is a similar biological function as Hashirama absorbing Natural energy through Mokuton; it was a foundation later built upon after we witnessed . The effects brought about were easily observed as the Zetsu spores within Sasuke's body grew to maximum extent. Another showcasing of this phenomenon was highlighted when a Gedo Mazou sitting atop a Mokuton flower, continually harnessing Natural energy which was then used to enhance things from to : An amplifier more or less.

Senjutsu chakra= chakra+natural energy. Mokuton can absorb chakra, this includes senjutsu chakra. This is why the zetsu reacted that way, I haven't seen anything that shows that having mokuton grants an easier way of absorbing natural energy than not having it.

Naruto was able to master senjutsu in two weeks, he doesn't have mokuton
 
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That's not him making the senjutsu chakra. That is like me saying naruto is the one who produces kurama's chakra. Sasuke can't be considered a senjutsu master unless he can create senjutsu chakra himself.

You do realize that if he wasn't good at controlling raw senjutsu he wouldn't be so good with his curse mode.
 

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Nothing was difficult for me to comprehend, unless you made a correction a short while ago, the way you first posted suggested you agreed with the OP mostly, especially how you claimed that he was somehow better than naruto(someone who has mastered senjutsu) in manipulating raw natural energy.

no, i never edited my post. and i only said his RAW ability (talent) exceeded narutos, since he didn't have to undergo rigorous training to sense or manipulate energy. however, as i said, naruto is far more a senjutsu master because of his ability to process it hisself, and utilize true senjutsu.
 

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You do realize that if he wasn't good at controlling raw senjutsu he wouldn't be so good with his curse mode.

I never stated that he wasn't good at manipulating senjutsu chakra, my point is he can't be considered a master unless he can create senjutsu chakra on his own.

You are the one who said he was a senjutsu master, not me.
 

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You do realize that if he wasn't good at controlling raw senjutsu he wouldn't be so good with his curse mode.

Say's who? Kimimaro was excellent with the curse seal of earth. You don't see anyone calling him a perfect sage now do ya?
 

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Lol wow.



Actually, that's not quite accurate, at least I don't think it is. Madara's hashirama implat was reactive otherwise his rinnegan wouldn't have awakened. The ability to gather natural energy has nothing to do with mokuton, in other words it isn't a requirement. Mokuton has been used by non senjutsu users e.g obito, guruguru, yamato, zetsu etc

I do agree kabuto did enhance madara, but only by increasing his hashirama cell infusion and ressurrecting him in his prime with his rinnegan. Madara has no CM to my knowledge

Simply implanting Mokuton doesn't not awaken the Rin'negan; Madara himself said that when he first implanted it nothing happened. It was while experiencing a near death experience that the Rin'negan surfaced.

As for the bold, I'll expand on it again...slowly. The energy of the Curse seal which was derived from Jugo's clan is Natural energy. Sasuke is compatible with this energy; in that his physical is able to withstand it's properties and he is able to utilize the energy without going 'berserk'. Via research Orochimaru discovered that Mokuton (hashirama's genetic material) reacts and cultivates when Natural Energy is in contact with it.

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Another example is Madara using Mokuton to absorb Hashirama's Sennin Modo.

@ Red: Zetsu/guruguru is Mokuton, Yamato was a successful experiment where Mokuton's properties bonded with him on a cellular level, Obito's body is composed of Mokuton thus due to these unnatural circumatances they're able to utilize the Kekkei Genkai.

@ Yellow: You're not viewing it correctly. Before Madara died he already Had the Rin'negan however even with Hashirama's implants he could not perform any of his Jutsu. HE was able to summon the Mazou and allow it to sit and gather Natural energy to cultivate the mokuton and Madara fed off of this energy to extend his mortality. Kabuto solved this problem by activating it with the curse seal; that was the 'enhancement' which he received. Madara was finally able to utilize all the Jutsu he copied from Hashriama with the Sharingan.

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much as i like sasuke....sasuke never learned to absorb senjutsu without cs mark
 

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10/10 thread. As expected from a true genius
 
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