[Theory] Sasuke + Naruto's Counter Attack to INFINITE TSUKUYOMI

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So after reading the chapter a couple times, I came up with the following theory/prediction.

Let me know what you think

[Will update with better translations as they come out]




1. Madara's Statement Regarding the Infinite Tsukuyomi:

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  • Madara states the conditions needed to activate the 10 Tomoe Eye
  • One of which is ''Getting Close To The Moon''

It is quite interesting how Madara despite being the, ''Combination of Both Naruto and Sasuke's Powers'':

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This is the first time we have seen his ''10 Tomoe Sharingan''




2. Sasuke's Eye and Susaanoo:

Sasuke demonstrated a brand new, [ and well foreshadowed Winged Susanoo ] :
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As well as the same 10 Tomoe Rinnegan as Madara:
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Does this mean Sasuke is able to somehow match the ''Conditions'', [the eye and the ability to get close to the moon], told by the Uchiha stone to also activate the ability to affect the Infinite Tsukuyomi ?


Yes, he has the potential



However remember what Madara mentioned:
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My prediction is as follows:


Sasuke will need a combined effort to affect this Genjutsu
Maybe a new Biiju covered Susaanoo to amplify his power, or a combination of both his and Naruto's YING and Yang chakra



That's my two cents
 
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So after reading the chapter a couple times, I came up with the following theory/prediction.

Let me know what you think

[Will update with better translations as they come out]




1. Madara's Statement Regarding the Infinite Tsukuyomi:

You must be registered for see images

  • Madara states the conditions needed to activate the 9 Tomoe Eye
  • One of which is ''Getting Close To The Moon''

It is quite interesting how Madara despite being the, ''Combination of Both Naruto and Sasuke's Powers'':

You must be registered for see images


This is the first time we have seen his ''9 Tomoe Sharingan''




2. Sasuke's Eye and Susaanoo:

Sasuke demonstrated a brand new, [ and well foreshadowed Winged Susanoo ] :
You must be registered for see images


As well as the same 9 Tomoe Sharingan as Madara:
You must be registered for see images




Does this mean Sasuke is able to somehow match the ''Conditions'', [the eye and the ability to get close to the moon], told by the Uchiha stone to also activate the ability to affect the Infinite Tsukuyomi ?


Yes, he has the potential



However remember what Madara mentioned:
You must be registered for see images


My prediction is as follows:


Sasuke will need a combined effort to affect this Genjutsu
Maybe a new Biiju covered Susaanoo to amplify his power, or a combination of both his and Naruto's YING and Yang chakra



That's my two cents
while it's an interesting theory i will say that you got one thing wrong... that's a 9 Tomoe Rinnegan not a Sharigan.
 

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I'd rather see them in infinite tsukuyomi and then finding a way to break it, in a epic way.

OT: Your prediction makes sense, and it may happen.
 

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dependent on the interpretation of 'the power of transmigration'

I see sasuke having the potential to cast IT(or being the first one to get caught in it)
 
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I like it, you're on to something with Sasuke's new flight and his eye able to cast MT. Maybe pouring the sauce all over the moon when madara is done will counteract his jutsu? We'll find out soon!
 

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So after reading the chapter a couple times, I came up with the following theory/prediction.

Let me know what you think

[Will update with better translations as they come out]




1. Madara's Statement Regarding the Infinite Tsukuyomi:

You must be registered for see images

  • Madara states the conditions needed to activate the 9 Tomoe Eye
  • One of which is ''Getting Close To The Moon''

It is quite interesting how Madara despite being the, ''Combination of Both Naruto and Sasuke's Powers'':

You must be registered for see images


This is the first time we have seen his ''9 Tomoe Sharingan''




2. Sasuke's Eye and Susaanoo:

Sasuke demonstrated a brand new, [ and well foreshadowed Winged Susanoo ] :
You must be registered for see images


As well as the same 9 Tomoe Rinnegan as Madara:
You must be registered for see images




Does this mean Sasuke is able to somehow match the ''Conditions'', [the eye and the ability to get close to the moon], told by the Uchiha stone to also activate the ability to affect the Infinite Tsukuyomi ?


Yes, he has the potential



However remember what Madara mentioned:
You must be registered for see images


My prediction is as follows:


Sasuke will need a combined effort to affect this Genjutsu
Maybe a new Biiju covered Susaanoo to amplify his power, or a combination of both his and Naruto's YING and Yang chakra



That's my two cents
How do you account, though, for the fact that Madara needed rinnenegan in both eyes to open the third? Suckske only has the one eye, so surely he needs something more. Also, Naruto has historically been bad at defending against genjitsu.

So I expect some sort of new power from the two of them to manifest in the next chapter or two.

By the way, anyone reconcile the difference between Madara having 2 rinnenegan and a sharrigan, whereas Kaguya had two byakugan and a sharringan?
 

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How do you account, though, for the fact that Madara needed rinnenegan in both eyes to open the third? Suckske only has the one eye, so surely he needs something more. Also, Naruto has historically been bad at defending against genjitsu.

So I expect some sort of new power from the two of them to manifest in the next chapter or two.

By the way, anyone reconcile the difference between Madara having 2 rinnenegan and a sharrigan, whereas Kaguya had two byakugan and a sharringan?

Actually, Madara acknowledged Sasuke's eye and said he had that eye, despite never showing a 9 Tomoe Rinnegan, similar to the one Kaguya and the Juubi displayed.

He also acknowledged Naruto's sage power, and said he had the same also, [images above]

Naruto being the host of all the Biiju, may use them to aid him from being affected by the IF, Sasuke weidling the same Eye, and the sharingan, may use that to see through it


[Kaguya actually had the 9 tomoe Rinnegan, as her third eye, it is why also sasuke only has one and not two, same for Madara]
 

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Actually, Madara acknowledged Sasuke's eye and said he had that eye, despite never showing a 9 Tomoe Rinnegan, similar to the one Kaguya and the Juubi displayed.

He also acknowledged Naruto's sage power, and said he had the same also, [images above]

Naruto being the host of all the Biiju, may use them to aid him from being affected by the IF, Sasuke weidling the same Eye, and the sharingan, may use that to see through it


[Kaguya actually had the 9 tomoe Rinnegan, as her third eye, it is why also sasuke only has one and not two, same for Madara]
Sorry, not following the logic of NOT needing two rinnegans (or 2 byakugans in Kaguya's case) to activate the third eye.
 

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Sorry, not following the logic of NOT needing two rinnegans (or 2 byakugans in Kaguya's case) to activate the third eye.
so you are saying the prerequisite for the ''third eye'' a 9 tomoe rinnegan, which sasuke has

has to be two previous rinnegans?

or two byakugans?


no disrespect, because anyone can be wrong, but show me the scan/s which show this, or is that an assumption

Madara, the same way i can assume Madara needed the second eye to ensure his power was at Maximum prior to starting the IF


the only eye which matches Madara's, Kaguya's, and the Juubi's eye currently is Sasuke's

considering this came from Hagoromo, and it is only 1 and not two, makes sense
 
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So after reading the chapter a couple times, I came up with the following theory/prediction.

Let me know what you think

[Will update with better translations as they come out]




1. Madara's Statement Regarding the Infinite Tsukuyomi:

You must be registered for see images

  • Madara states the conditions needed to activate the 9 Tomoe Eye
  • One of which is ''Getting Close To The Moon''

It is quite interesting how Madara despite being the, ''Combination of Both Naruto and Sasuke's Powers'':

You must be registered for see images


This is the first time we have seen his ''9 Tomoe Sharingan''




2. Sasuke's Eye and Susaanoo:

Sasuke demonstrated a brand new, [ and well foreshadowed Winged Susanoo ] :
You must be registered for see images


As well as the same 9 Tomoe Rinnegan as Madara:
You must be registered for see images




Does this mean Sasuke is able to somehow match the ''Conditions'', [the eye and the ability to get close to the moon], told by the Uchiha stone to also activate the ability to affect the Infinite Tsukuyomi ?


Yes, he has the potential



However remember what Madara mentioned:
You must be registered for see images


My prediction is as follows:


Sasuke will need a combined effort to affect this Genjutsu
Maybe a new Biiju covered Susaanoo to amplify his power, or a combination of both his and Naruto's YING and Yang chakra



That's my two cents
If Sasuke and Naruto had a baby together THAT child would of the power to IT because it posses the sages body and eyes.
 
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so you are saying the prerequisite for the ''third eye'' a 9 tomoe rinnegan, which sasuke has

has to be two previous rinnegans?

or two byakugans?


no disrespect, because anyone can be wrong, but show me the scan/s which show this, or is that an assumption

Madara, the same way i can assume Madara needed the second eye to ensure his power was at Maximum prior to starting the IF


the only eye which matches Madara's, Kaguya's, and the Juubi's eye currently is Sasuke's

considering this came from Hagoromo, and it is only 1 and not two, makes sense

Assuming it is necessary, based on the introduction of Kaguya and the fact that Madara couldn't (or wouldn't) go IT until he got the second rinnegan. Otherwise, why wouldn't kishi have just gone straight to him opening the third eye?

Can never be sure with kishi, but that is how I track the logic so far.
 

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Assuming it is necessary, based on the introduction of Kaguya and the fact that Madara couldn't (or wouldn't) go IT until he got the second rinnegan. Otherwise, why wouldn't kishi have just gone straight to him opening the third eye?

Can never be sure with kishi, but that is how I track the logic so far.
True, i guess it is how we perceive it individually
 
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