Sasuke & Naruto | Reaction Time, Attack Time & Teamwork

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This theory builds on the theory and information by a fellow member on here, if you haven't already then I highly recommend that you read that before you go on to reading this. [ ] Now lets get on with my thread, and I will start by covering the teamwork abilities of Naruto and Sasuke.

The most important thing for a Shinobi, Teamwork.
During Part 1 we learned that the most important thing for a Shinobi is the ability to work as a team, this was clearly showed as early as Team 7's first encounter with Zabuza in Part 1. This is the first time Naruto and Sasuke displayed flawless teamwork without any prior planning of the actions.

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At a very young age, these two were able to pull off teamwork so flawlessly and without planning or communication that it surprised not one, but two Anbu class shinobi. This is more than proof that they are capable of this, and even more so later in their lives, namely against the Juubi.

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This teamwork earned praise from no other than Tobirama Senju the Second Hokage, known for his talented mind and intelligence. He states that it is very difficult to pull off such teamwork even with years of experience, further proving that the two can work together as a team without any prior planning of it.

The reactions speed of Naruto and Sasuke.
This topic has been debated so many times its getting ridiculous. Now I want to explain my view on this and why it is logical that Naruto and Sasuke have equal reaction speed, though very different perks that make them different. So let us start with the proof that they both are at the top in the terms of reaction speed. By using their fights against the Raikage, a man who is famous for his speed.

The Raikage moves at such a speed that it can almost be considered instantly, close to lightning speed. However, both Naruto and Sasuke have managed to avoid his attack at point blank. Lets follow the timeline, and go through how they were able to do this, starting with Sasuke.

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Thanks to Sasuke's Sharingan he is able to predict the movements of Ay's arm and thus dodge it. However this prediction means nothing if his body can't keep up with it. (Same as Sasuke was able to copy Lee's movements, but not to the same degree as his body wasn't able to take it.) This means that Sasuke's body is able to move at a speed that is at least as fast as Ay's, close to lightning speed. Because of that and his Sharingan he was able to predict the movement of the arm and dodge it with high precision. Now this is drastically different from what Naruto did, as we'll see now.

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Now Naruto doesn't have the Sharingan, however he has Senjutsu and Kurama's ability to sense bad intent. (Such as an attack.) Naruto also has great speed, as showcased when he first tamed Kurama. Naruto was also able to dodge a point-blank attack from Ay, be it a little different than what Sasuke did. Naruto isn't able to predict the movementof Ay's arm so he needed to dodge Ay completely, not with precision like Sasuke did. (As it would be too risky.)

Though Naruto was able to see and sense Ay's attack and that along with his already extreme speed he was able to dodge Ay. This is where the two are vastly different. Naruto dodges right before the attack comes, and dodges it completely. Sasuke predicts the attack and dodges with extreme precision. Their difference isn't in speed, but in method. One uses sensing and the other uses Sharingan. They're speed however, is close to equal if not completely equal. This is again, showed against Kaguya.

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Sasuke is able to dodge Kaguya's attack from behind even though he has the reaction time to do so as he isn't able to sense the attack, his dodging is largely focused around his eyes. If you are say teleporting, then his dodging isn't as good. (This is what Kaguya does.) However Naruto proves to be able to dodge Kaguya's attack unlike Sasuke. There are mostly likely two reasons for this, one is that Naruto probably expected it. However, I think he would have been able to dodge it regardless, thanks to his Senjutsu.

Naruto would be able to sense the change in chakra behind him, and that along with his reflexes he would be able to dodge it. However, had this been done to Naruto first then it would most likely not work against Sasuke as he would expect it. This is probably why Kaguya aimed for Sasuke first.

Attack Time of the two.
Now this is where my thread ties in with the one I linked to in the start. The attack time of Naruto and Sasuke and how Naruto was able to land a hit on Kaguya without her being able to even register it. We know that Kaguya has a eye that is superior to Sasuke and sensing that is superior to Naruto's. In other words, she is a mix between the two. This means that if Kaguya expects and attack and sees it, then she can dodge it even at point blank and it also means that she can sense an attack from behind. However, she has a body alike a human and because of that she has the limitations of it. By that I mean, she cannot react faster than her body allows her to.

Naruto and Sasuke both are at lighting speed in terms of reaction, that also means they can attack almost as fast. Though there are even more factors to it than that. The theory I linked to tries to prove that Sasuke teleported Naruto in order to hit Kaguya. I insist that prove that correct. As we have Naruto and Sasuke both attack Kaguya at different times, using the wold be same tactic. So lets start there.

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When Sasuke tries to attack Kaguya, they are still in the gravity heavy dimensions. This means that his reactions and speed was affected by that, and the same goes for Kaguya. But the moment he appears before Kaguya, she notices him with the Rinne-Sharingan and changes dimensions. This is strange, considering that Black Zetsu told Kaguya to save chakra, meaning she had no choice. She noticed Sasuke's attack, but because of the gravity she would be unable to dodge the attack, so she changes dimensions and then dodge it. This means that Sasuke's attack speed is greater than Kaguya's reaction time in the gravity dimension.

Though it also proves that Kaguya's reaction time is superior to Sasuke's attack time in a normal dimension. However, if they both did the same. How was she able to dodge Sasuke, but not Naruto? Well its two possibilities, that both tie in on each other. We know that she dodge Sasuke by detecting him with her eye, the same type of dodging that Sasuke does. This means she saw the attack and thus can dodge it with high precision. But both Naruto and Sasuke attacked from the front. The answer is that Kaguya was expecting an attack when Sasuke did it, but not when Naruto did it and she wasn't expecting the attack from Naruto.

Naruto and Black Zetsu were talking, so she was not waiting for an attack. However, she was most likely aware of Sasuke's ability. That being said, she wasn't aware that Sasuke would use it on Naruto. (The proof that supports that claim can be seen in the thread I linked to.) It got her by surprise and she seems to have somewhat a slower reaction time in the air. (As showed several times when she decides to change dimensions rather than just dodging.) In short, it is likely that Sasuke teleported Naruto because of the SFX, their history of teamwork and the fact that Naruto has never displayed such instant speed before or after this event.

 

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Why need a flashback of Kaguya, Ay or other panels. They already had a fight in VOTE2 and you can judge them there. SMH
 

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Holy wall of text :|

I agree more or less though
 

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Agreed also Naruto has better striking speed so this is another reason why Naruto landed a hit on her and Sasuke didn't.
 

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So Sasuke did teleport Naruto to Kaguya .. as expected.

I noticed the same SFX which Sasuke uses when he teleports.

Naruto might have striking speed but doesn't really matter as much honestly.
 

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The question I want to ask here. How Sasuke used Amenotejikara to teleported Naruto near Kaguya? He cant do that
 

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11/10 thread would read again, although I think Naruto has the slightly superior foot speed because he has the stronger body hence stronger athleticism.

And the reason Naruto might have been able to dodge Kaguya's S/t was because he witnessed the jutsu being used on Sasuke. As a result he was on the defensive expecting a dimensional gate to open in contrast to Sasuke who wasn't aware of her ability to use S/t to that extent.
 

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theres alot of things wrong but u get a A for effort.
 

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You should read again, because you missing all the details, that's why you believing a lie
 

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11/10 thread would read again, although I think Naruto has the slightly superior foot speed because he has the stronger body hence stronger athleticism.

And the reason Naruto might have been able to dodge Kaguya's S/t was because he witnessed the jutsu being used on Sasuke. As a result he was on the defensive expecting a dimensional gate to open in contrast to Sasuke who wasn't aware of her ability to use S/t to that extent.

How can a bias reasoning be 11/10? Your belief is extremely questionable as well
 
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This thread already been destroyed but take +rep for effort.
 
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I'm not sure I believe Sasuke teleported Naruto. But I can't deny the SFX which I'm only just now noticing for the first time. Agree with a lot of the other stuff though. Their methods are clearly different.

Sasuke still solos.
 

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So Sasuke did teleport Naruto to Kaguya .. as expected.

I noticed the same SFX which Sasuke uses when he teleports.

Naruto might have striking speed but doesn't really matter as much honestly.

Sasuke didn't use S/T Jutsu on Naruto at that time, that was Naruto's physical speed. Guy, who doesn't possess a S/T jutsu, had the same SFX when he used the 8th Gate - that Naruto did - - It's represents the level and quick of their speed. It's like their speed is instant. That's the reason Naruto was able to hit Kaguya using physical speed, while Sasuke failed using a S/T jutsu.
 

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Nice this thread is pretty helpful and I believe their reaction times are definitely equal however the methods differ but when if comes to foot speed I'm not too certain its exactly equal because for some one like bm naruto I just can't seem sasukr moving that fast unless we are saying shunshin is a part of that
 

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Interesting thread
 
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