Sasuke might be given perfected sage mode

[Xāvî1]

His Rinnegan is expected by many to be awaken;
He is given Hashirama DNA to pump up his life force and chakra;
He may be given the know-how on how to perfect the dragon sage mode;
His body is now suitable to become a Jin.

yeah just like naruto will have the 9 tomoe rinnegan
well naruto already has perfect sage mode
he will get obitos dna and will become a perfect sage
well he already has 9 bijuu chakara inside him right..
he will get hashirama's mokuton.....

OT: Get real joker... if sasuke gets sage mode then naruto is also getting the rinnegan mark my typed words

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Sasuke fanboys generally have the IQ of a Chicken

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

But here's the thing. It took Naruto days to do that even with enhanced shadow clone training. That would mean it would normally take a week or 2. Sasuke doesn't have that time.

But heres the thing sasuke ISNT NARUTO hes been a fast learner and learned even faster than naruto in battle throughout the series also sasuke was always better at handling chakra than naruto.

 

[saw2097]

Skill or no skill training or no training the reality is that its still a strength no matter how they get or do it. Juugos cells gather natural energy the method they gather it grants transformation abilities OFCOURSE HE WILL LOOK DIFFERENT IN V2 Also senju dna allowed madara to seal sm and he said it wasnt even difficult to handle and continued to be in sm long after. YOU are the one with false logic being no different from people saying sasuke isnt stronger than itachi by comparing a PREVIOUS sasuke. This is the same situation sasuke has three different methods of gathering senjutsu contracts with snakes AND hawks yet you still think sage mode is impossible for him even though he has already handled senjutsu perfectly before.

Madara has known about Sage Mode for decades, he fought Hashirama who was a Sage Mode master for years and had time in a cave all by himself. And Madara achieved Sage Mode by stealing Hasirama's Senjutsu not by gathering it himself.

Sasuke hasn't handled Senjutsu perfectly before, he handled a watered down Sage Mode knock off that many people have been shown to be able to handle.

But heres the thing sasuke ISNT NARUTO hes been a fast learner and learned even faster than naruto in battle throughout the series also sasuke was always better at handling chakra than naruto.

That is no basis for an argument, Minato is smarter then Naruto and said to be a genius yet he is terrible with Senjutsu, Sasuke was shown to not have the slightest idea of what Senjutsu was yet you claim he will learn it in mere seconds.

It was established that Sage Mode can't be mastered by everyone, even Orochimaru who was also a genius couldn't master it.

Your claims just show that this is what you want to happen not what will happen.

 

[deadp00l]

its funny, ever since sasuke's amaterasu failed hard against juubito and naruto drilled a hole in juubito with senjutsu rasengan, sasuke fans have turned into sage mode fans

every week there is at least one thread praying that sasuke gets sage mode

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Skill or no skill training or no training the reality is that its still a strength no matter how they get or do it. Juugos cells gather natural energy the method they gather it grants transformation abilities OFCOURSE HE WILL LOOK DIFFERENT IN V2 Also senju dna allowed madara to seal sm and he said it wasnt even difficult to handle and continued to be in sm long after. YOU are the one with false logic being no different from people saying sasuke isnt stronger than itachi by comparing a PREVIOUS sasuke. This is the same situation sasuke has three different methods of gathering senjutsu contracts with snakes AND hawks yet you still think sage mode is impossible for him even though he has already handled senjutsu perfectly before.

You are making so much crap up it's not even funny. You operate fully on fanboyism and just insult any with other views. Some of it is too easy to make fun of. Hawks, really? This alone should demonstrate the lack of logic in your post.

Madara is not an ordinary Uchiha. We don't even know if it's a result of senju cells. He absorbed amaterasu, then he absorbs senjutsu, and he even absorbed some 9 tails chakra from a ninja fodder. For some reason, Madara has the ability to absorb things even without the rinnegan. Madara is not a good example at all.


I didn't say it mattered how he got it, but what I was saying was that Sasuke has no training, and that means he won't be able to perfectly balance sage mode period. There has been no instance where he's perfectly balanced natural energy and chakra by himself.

 

[ANiMUS]

But here's the thing. It took Naruto days to do that even with enhanced shadow clone training. That would mean it would normally take a week or 2. Sasuke doesn't have that time.

Thats why I said that the feel of nature energy could be similar to the chakra of the cursemark. If that is true Sasuke only needs to knead the energy and his chakra to resemble that of the CM.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

But heres the thing sasuke ISNT NARUTO hes been a fast learner and learned even faster than naruto in battle throughout the series also sasuke was always better at handling chakra than naruto.

Naruto has been noted to have extreme potential for SM and they both have the same intelligence stat in the databook 3.5, so no, that's completely unfounded.

Thats why I said that the feel of nature energy could be similar to the chakra of the cursemark. If that is true Sasuke only needs to knead the energy and his chakra to resemble that of the CM.

Well, here's the thing. Curse mark is kind of like an injection. I wouldn't be surprised if he could get curse mark like abilities, but it won't be a true sage mode. That's all I'm saying.

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Sasuke has never learned senjutsu. All he's had is the curse mark, which is chakra injected into someone, and is not skill related, stop lying to yourself. Sasuke doesn't even know how to gather natural energy. If Sasuke had true sage potential, then he wouldn't have animal characteristics in curse mark V2.

Curse mark and toad oil doesn't have similarities?

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By the way, this is what Kabuto think of curse mark mastery compared to a true sage mode.

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There's no skill involved with curse mark. It's just an automatic powerup that comes from another source's chakra.

Their is skill involved in utilizing the curse mark. Jugo's ability is Sage Mode, which Kabuto did take from Jugo. [

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The only difference between the cursed seal and Sage Transformation/Sage Mode is that it eats away at the users chakra.

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Sasuke's control over the mark, even before taking the mind awakening pill, was noted several times. Orochimaru was trembling in excitement when Sasuke showcased this control in his preliminary matchup against Yoroi.

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It was surprising that Sasuke could immediately use the cursed seals power, his ability with the mark is possibly beyond what any have done before, only Kimimaro comes close, and his transformation had more drawbacks than Sasuke's.

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[iNotorious]

His Rinnegan is expected by many to be awaken;
He is given Hashirama DNA to pump up his life force and chakra;
He may be given the know-how on how to perfect the dragon sage mode;
His body is now suitable to become a Jin.

Everything was going smoothly until bold. No he won't.​

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Their is skill involved in utilizing the curse mark. Jugo's ability is Sage Mode, which Kabuto did take from Jugo. [

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The only difference between the cursed seal and Sage Transformation/Sage Mode is that it eats away at the users chakra.

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Sasuke's control over the mark, even before taking the mind awakening pill, was noted several times. Orochimaru was trembling in excitement when Sasuke showcased this control in his preliminary matchup against Yoroi.

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It was surprising that Sasuke could immediately use the cursed seals power, his ability with the mark is possibly beyond what any have done before, only Kimimaro comes close, and his transformation had more drawbacks than Sasuke's.

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The curse mark is like an imperfect sage mode. The key word is that it makes people like Juugo. Juugo has a sage transformation, but the secret to being a true sage is balance and control, something that Juugo does not have. Curse mark Sasuke is nowhere near true sage Naruto's level. If I where to compare abilities, I'd say it makes him the same as SM Jiraya. If it were a true sage mode, then there'd by the ability to sense chakra, but that's not there.

 

[ANiMUS]

Naruto has been noted to have extreme potential for SM and they both have the same intelligence stat in the databook 3.5, so no, that's completely unfounded.




Well, here's the thing. Curse mark is kind of like an injection. I wouldn't be surprised if he could get curse mark like abilities, but it won't be a true sage mode. That's all I'm saying.

An Uchiha would still know the difference between CM chakra and his own. Whether it was an injection or not if Sasuke has memorized the general feel of the senjutsu chakra in the CM there is nothing stopping him from making his own.

As far as CM goes u literally have to obtain the technique from Orochimaru. You can't get it through Juugo's cells, Juugo's cells only passively absorb NE. Just like with SM if u absorb too much u get the repercussions, too little gets u nothing at all. Just right gets u SM. Juugo's clan get the way they do because they can't balance it.

The curse mark is like an imperfect sage mode. The key word is that it makes people like Juugo. Juugo has a sage transformation, but the secret to being a true sage is balance and control, something that Juugo does not have. Curse mark Sasuke is nowhere near true sage Naruto's level. If I where to compare abilities, I'd say it makes him the same as SM Jiraya. If it were a true sage mode, then there'd by the ability to sense chakra, but that's not there.

U have officially crossed over to your personal opinion. How similar CM chakra is to SM chakra is unknown Jiraiya couLdnt even draw in NE on his own. Sasuke is a genius, whether Kishi decides to go with SM for Sasuke we will have to see, but the fact is its possible.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

An Uchiha would still know the difference between CM chakra and his own. Whether it was an injection or not if Sasuke has memorized the general feel of the senjutsu chakra in the CM there is nothing stopping him from making his own.

As far as CM goes u literally have to obtain the technique from Orochimaru. You can't get it through Juugo's cells, Juugo's cells only passively absorb NE. Just like with SM if u absorb too much u get the repercussions, too little gets u nothing at all. Just right gets u SM. Juugo's clan get the way they do because they can't balance it.

Let me point out something. Curse mark is Orochimaru's imperfect sage chakra. By definition, that means the "feel" that Sasuke would be used to would be imperfect SM, further supporting my point.

 

[Seventh Sama]

No, I much prefer if he got CM back...

 

[ANiMUS]

Let me point out something. Curse mark is Orochimaru's imperfect sage chakra. By definition, that means the "feel" that Sasuke would be used to would be imperfect SM, further supporting my point.

Ppl can adjust chakra. As smart as Sasuke is, I wouldn't put it past him to be able to find an appropriate mixture if he can at least keep it in a safe range.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Ppl can adjust chakra. As smart as Sasuke is, I wouldn't put it past him to be able to find an appropriate mixture if he can at least keep it in a safe range.

Oh, he'd definitely be able to keep himself in a safe range. I just don't think he'll spontaneously get to a higher level with it. That'd be a worse a-pull than izanami. It's not something easily adapted to. In fact, it's been described as near impossible.

 

[vasu 32]

yeah i agree. People saying no,bs,etc. are in denial and should re-read manga. Sasuke went to sage mode training in part 1 and later with oro,to control sage chakra,curse mark. He perfectly controlled jugo's true sage chakra in susano'o.

 

[ANiMUS]

Oh, he'd definitely be able to keep himself in a safe range. I just don't think he'll spontaneously get to a higher level with it. That'd be a worse a-pull than izanami. It's not something easily adapted to. In fact, it's been described as near impossible.

Well, the same can be said about madara. The fact is as much experience as he may have had fighting Hashirama u can't see NE, it can only be studied through experience or by visiting one of the three SM origins. As far as that goes Sasuke would have better prior experience than Madara.

Also Izanami is pretty valid. U would just have to be familiar with Japanese mythology. Izanagi and Izanami are a pair so if we saw one we should have expected the other. Izanami is no more an a**pull then susanoo was when Itachi used it.

 

[Seventh Sama]

yeah i agree. People saying no,bs,etc. are in denial and should re-read manga. Sasuke went to sage mode training in part 1 and later with oro,to control sage chakra,curse mark. He perfectly controlled jugo's true sage chakra in susano'o.

Show me a scan where sasuke received sage mode training?

 

[The Robot With Human Hair]

Let me point out something. Curse mark is Orochimaru's imperfect sage chakra. By definition, that means the "feel" that Sasuke would be used to would be imperfect SM, further supporting my point.

It's not Orochimaru's sage chakra, it's Jugo's. Orochimaru, using Jugo's chakra, bestows the Mark, this was proven in 648. Orochimaru cannot utilize Senjutsu, the cursed seal was used as a test to see if his vessels/subordinates could handle Senjutsu.

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Also, Sasuke can control Jugo's urges, and possesses what is likely the most perfect version of cursed seal transformation. With Jugo's cells in his chest, as well as Kabuto currently healing Sasuke while utilizing Sage mode, directly upon where the cells are situated, possibly infusing them with Senjutsu chakra from the Ryuchi Cave, could lead to Sasuke gaining a more perfect version of Jugo's ability, rather than the curse mark.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Madara has known about Sage Mode for decades, he fought Hashirama who was a Sage Mode master for years and had time in a cave all by himself. And Madara achieved Sage Mode by stealing Hasirama's Senjutsu not by gathering it himself.

Sasuke hasn't handled Senjutsu perfectly before, he handled a watered down Sage Mode knock off that many people have been shown to be able to handle.



That is no basis for an argument, Minato is smarter then Naruto and said to be a genius yet he is terrible with Senjutsu, Sasuke was shown to not have the slightest idea of what Senjutsu was yet you claim he will learn it in mere seconds.

It was established that Sage Mode can't be mastered by everyone, even Orochimaru who was also a genius couldn't master it.

Your claims just show that this is what you want to happen not what will happen.

1. Madara knew absolutely nothing about sm until he stole it which is why he commentas such. 2. Ofcourse i want sasuke to have sm but that does not make my arguement baseless infact no onopposing my arguement has given any counters to it unless refering to the "old" sasuke or naruto i will now explain why sasuke will get sm. 1. Juugo dna he already had some now kabuto gave him more it has the ability to AUTOMATICALLY absorb senjutsu it is a sm in itself and sasuke already has prior experience handling it perfectly. 2. Sasukes already handled senjutsu chakra he knows what it feels like controlling it should be no problem especially after point 3. SEMJU DNA i dont need to say how powerful this stuff is but the original owner had perfect sm and even maddy could perfectly handle senjutsu like it was nothing 4. Kabuto/orochi dna both have sm and are now inside of him.