Sasuke meets Non-old/non-Edo Madara: who survives ?

[shelke]

Bee was able to sub out of it without any intel lol

Not only that but if Sasuke is fighting rinnegan Madara, then Madara could just preta path it

And enton is amaterasu, except one is able to mold it to different shapes other than the standard flame.....

and as I said, Susanoo would protect Madara from amaterasu

- Bee escaped with sheer dumb luck, as Karin tripped and Sasuke was forced to turn off the flames.

- Actually no. Enton maybe Amaterasu's shape manipulation, but it lacks its burning or spawning properties. For better examples of a 'focused Amaterasu' look at Hachibi, Danzo, Nagato reduced to bones, his summons, and frog stomach. In all the case, Amaterasu spread at an alarming rate, and has actually killed a few targets out of the aforementioned ones.

- Amaterasu eats chakra, hence his susano'o would be severely weakened.

Anyhow, Sasuke is not surviving repeated PS slashes. I give this to EMS Madara mid difference.

 

[Lightbringer]

- Bee escaped with sheer dumb luck, as Karin tripped and Sasuke was forced to turn off the flames.

- Actually no. Enton maybe Amaterasu's shape manipulation, but it lacks its burning or spawning properties. For better examples of a 'focused Amaterasu' look at Hachibi, Danzo, Nagato reduced to bones, his summons, and frog stomach. In all the case, Amaterasu spread at an alarming rate, and has actually killed a few targets out of the aforementioned ones.

- Amaterasu eats chakra, hence his susano'o would be severely weakened.

Anyhow, Sasuke is not surviving repeated PS slashes. I give this to EMS Madara mid difference.

Dumb Luck? Bee was able to react to Minato's FTG, I'm guessing that's dumb luck too?

 

[veggetta13]

I do think about Sasuke as an equal to Madara, just as in some twisted way kishi is drawing it towards naruto right from the Rikudou Senin.

It would be funny seeing Madara take a shit on Sasuke :O

 

[Curteth]

I do think about Sasuke as an equal to Madara, just as in some twisted way kishi is drawing it towards naruto right from the Rikudou Senin.

It would be funny seeing Madara take a shit on Sasuke :O

Yes, I'm sure it is unanimous ~

 

[arielpk]

And when has Amaterasu succeeded in killing anyone aside for an unsuspecting zetsu?


Raikage dodged it

Bee subbed out of it

Sasuke snake shed from it

Gaara Blocked it

and Amaterasu won't go through susanoo.

So we're off to who's Susano'o will fall first.
Probably Sasuke's, since Madara's Susano'o is stronger.
So if Sasuke can survive enough time after his Susano'o is off, untill Madara's Susano'o is off, then, hoping he has enough Chakra he can use Amaterasu.
But TBH I think Madara takes this.

 

[HadouKage]

How is this even debatable? Madara decimates

 

[shelke]

Dumb Luck? Bee was able to react to Minato's FTG, I'm guessing that's dumb luck too?

Yes, dumb luck. What does his FTG reaction have anything to do with this debate? Two different scenarios, hence unrelated. He was burning and had Karin not tripped, he never would have been able to use the replacement technique. He even mentions so himself that he formulated it, 'on the fly or in the spur of the moment'.

 

[Lightbringer]

Yes, dumb luck. What does his FTG reaction have anything to do with this debate? Two different scenarios, hence unrelated. He was burning and had Karin not tripped, he never would have been able to use the replacement technique. He even mentions so himself that he formulated it, 'on the fly or in the spur of the moment'.

Because him reacting to FTG means he has good reflexes. Anything that fast is obviously spur of the moment, you don't pre-meditate dodging fire.

Him being able to do something in the "spur of the moment" means he was able to think quickly and if he can do that, then so can others.

Any Substitution jutsu(aside for Orochimaru's) happens before the attack lands, not while the attack is happening.

 

[shelke]

Because him reacting to FTG means he has good reflexes. Anything that fast is obviously spur of the moment, you don't pre-meditate dodging fire.

Him being able to do something in the "spur of the moment" means he was able to think quickly and if he can do that, then so can others.

Any Substitution jutsu(aside for Orochimaru's) happens before the attack lands, not while the attack is happening.

Which is why he accomplished so for the cut tentacle. It was the only one which did not get engulfed by flames. Once Sasuke turned his Flames off, replacement technique is the only thing he could have employed to escape. This plan or strategy has nothing to do with reflexes.

Anyhow, we are getting off topic here.