Sasuke & Kakashi Vs. Onoki & Guy
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I think team sharingan wins if they play it right . Kakashi is by far the most intelligent fighter here and give him Sasuke who can spam his op EMS techniques and thats a win. Kakashi beats Gai mid-high def . Kakashi s Kamui is very haxed he can use it for defense or for offense or he just enters in Sasuke s Susano ... and i believe Sasuke can beat Onoki on his own if not Kakashi after beating Gai would aid him for the win
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Sasuke and Kakashi takes
Manly people will come here saying Onoki destroyed 25 Susanoo so he's going to destroy Sasuke's Susanoo without diff...that's not the case here at all and let me explain why.
Onoki was able to destroy those 25 Complete Susanoos with such Jition because all 5 Kages put their Chakra together all at once...Tsunade(has Senju and Uzumaki Chakra...you people seen what Naruto can do with only half Uzumaki Chakra now Tsunade has another half that's Senju Chakra),The Railkage(how has Bijjus level Chakra)Garra, and Mei
^See what Karin is saying...."These are Tailed-Beast Level!!.."Railkage's Chakras are still growing".
Even with all of that.. they still couldn't destroy the Final Susanoo EMS Version.
Now Madara's Susanoo might be bigger with it's legs, but the defense is still the same.
^Notice, that Sasuke Final Susanoo hands the same exact layered armor or paprer looking like hands as Madara's Final Susanoo...Sasuke's Final Susanoo might be small do the lack of the legs, but that still doesn't change the Final Susanoo defense in EMS Version.
Onoki is just to damn slow to dodge both Sasuke and Kakashi attacks....now people will come and say Onoki will fly and then he will use Jition and kill both Sasuke and Kakashi....well thing again
Sasuke also has a Summoing Hawk and both Sasuke and Kakashi will use to reach where ever Onoki's ass goes and Kamui or Amaterasu him...Onoki is too slow to even thing about dodging them.
Now with Onoki out of the picture...Gai can't hope to survive against Sasuke and Kakashi.
I can explain more if you like as to why Sasuke and Kakashi wins.
Manly people will come here saying Onoki destroyed 25 Susanoo so he's going to destroy Sasuke's Susanoo without diff...that's not the case here at all and let me explain why.
Onoki was able to destroy those 25 Complete Susanoos with such Jition because all 5 Kages put their Chakra together all at once...Tsunade(has Senju and Uzumaki Chakra...you people seen what Naruto can do with only half Uzumaki Chakra now Tsunade has another half that's Senju Chakra),The Railkage(how has Bijjus level Chakra)Garra, and Mei
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^See what Karin is saying...."These are Tailed-Beast Level!!.."Railkage's Chakras are still growing".
Even with all of that.. they still couldn't destroy the Final Susanoo EMS Version.
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Now Madara's Susanoo might be bigger with it's legs, but the defense is still the same.
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^Notice, that Sasuke Final Susanoo hands the same exact layered armor or paprer looking like hands as Madara's Final Susanoo...Sasuke's Final Susanoo might be small do the lack of the legs, but that still doesn't change the Final Susanoo defense in EMS Version.
Onoki is just to damn slow to dodge both Sasuke and Kakashi attacks....now people will come and say Onoki will fly and then he will use Jition and kill both Sasuke and Kakashi....well thing again
Sasuke also has a Summoing Hawk and both Sasuke and Kakashi will use to reach where ever Onoki's ass goes and Kamui or Amaterasu him...Onoki is too slow to even thing about dodging them.
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Now with Onoki out of the picture...Gai can't hope to survive against Sasuke and Kakashi.
I can explain more if you like as to why Sasuke and Kakashi wins.
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Hatakii I see Kakashi as the weak link here. Guy in gate I see him beating Kakashi, and Onoki with Rock golem for defense & Jinton for offense can kill him. Oh and he can't get inside Sasuke Susano'o
I see what you're sayin here FTG, but this is a team battle. Guy in gates & Onoki on his back to lighten him they would have unholy speed, like what A & Onoki did to Madara Susano'o. Since I believe Guy in gates would defeat Kakashi add Onoki what can he do? Sasuke Susano'o hand would have to protect Kakashi or he gets speed blitzed, I don't believe Sasuke Susano'o hand alone can protect Kakashi from after noon tiger. So Sasuke would have to fully protect Kakashi with Susano'o, giving Onoki a opportunity to kill one of them with Jinton.
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Did you forget that Sasuke can still use Amaterasu while in his Susanoo?
Onoki could have attacked any other Susanoo user with Jition from above while they're protecting another person , but Sasuke is a different case....he showed that he can use defense "Susanoo" and offense "Amaterasu and Blaze Release" at the same time....in this case Sasuke can still protect Kakashi with full EMS Final Susanoo and still can use Amaterasu which even made the Railkage using his full speed and Shunshin No Jutsu at the same time just so he can dodge it and.
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^6 or 7 Amaterasu balls at the same time and still has an orb full of that same attackU_U
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^C saying the Railkage using his full speed and Shunshin No Jutsu just so he can dodge Amaterasu and the Railkage is the third fastest Shinobi to ever live only next to Minato and BM Naruto while Gai's speed is still inferior to the Railkage's speed.
The main reason why Onoki and Gai will lose is because Gai looks down when facing a Sharingan user and while that's a good advantage it can also be his downfall of the match which means if Gai doesn't look at Sasuke then his chance of dodging Amaterasu is 0% and if Gai looks at his opponent then Sasuke uses Genjutsu on him and then it's all over for them.
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Onoki would be a problem though with his Jinton. So they will have to strike and put him down first. Not sure if Kakashi has knowledge on Jinton, but i would suppose he doesn't, but since he has Sasuke as a partner who already saw Jinton, he would probably inform Kakashi of it. Gai on the other hand is Onoki's partner, so he will probably inform him about Kamui. Sasuke has Susanoo, but it's proven that Susanoo is nothing against Jinton, so i don't really know how they would protect themselves against Jinton. Kakashi on the contrary can warp the Jinton though like demonstrated on this pic
By the same method, it can also counter Hirudora. If Kakashi was alone, he would have countered it by going underground, but he has to protect Sasuke as well. After Hirudora, Gai is generally tired, so it's a move, Gai would have to use as last ressort
When Onoki uses Jinton, it needs time to form, so even if Gai plays as a distraction, with 2MS user on the other side, they are not giving him time. Sasuke could probably launch Susanoo arrows on him or Kakashi kamui him and either would get killed or Onoki would always be on the defensive with his golem defense.
The fact both sides will have knowledge on most dangerous jutsu, it would depend on who strike first, but since kamui can counter Jinton, but Onoki can't, i would favour Sasuke and Kakashi on this one.
Incredible precision while aiming with a kunai without even seeing the target:
So we can say that fighting with this method never handicaps Gai at all
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to Kakashi in the manga, but as an argument, i would say that Kakashi has shown to be able to keep up with 6th gated Gai while
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(they arrived at the same moment), while
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(Morning Peacock, Raiden). So i don't see Kakashi being overwhelmed when we have such mangafeats. The fact Kakashi is good in taijutsu himself, but more versatile than Gai with his ninjutsu arsenal, his clone feints makes me believe that Kakashi would beat him more times than not. Onoki would be a problem though with his Jinton. So they will have to strike and put him down first. Not sure if Kakashi has knowledge on Jinton, but i would suppose he doesn't, but since he has Sasuke as a partner who already saw Jinton, he would probably inform Kakashi of it. Gai on the other hand is Onoki's partner, so he will probably inform him about Kamui. Sasuke has Susanoo, but it's proven that Susanoo is nothing against Jinton, so i don't really know how they would protect themselves against Jinton. Kakashi on the contrary can warp the Jinton though like demonstrated on this pic
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By the same method, it can also counter Hirudora. If Kakashi was alone, he would have countered it by going underground, but he has to protect Sasuke as well. After Hirudora, Gai is generally tired, so it's a move, Gai would have to use as last ressort
When Onoki uses Jinton, it needs time to form, so even if Gai plays as a distraction, with 2MS user on the other side, they are not giving him time. Sasuke could probably launch Susanoo arrows on him or Kakashi kamui him and either would get killed or Onoki would always be on the defensive with his golem defense.
The fact both sides will have knowledge on most dangerous jutsu, it would depend on who strike first, but since kamui can counter Jinton, but Onoki can't, i would favour Sasuke and Kakashi on this one.
I disagree with this. Gai has shown no problems in fighting Madara and Obito with his method. On the contrary, he has even shown that he mastered this taijutsu art that much that he can even counter attacks without seeing them
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Incredible precision while aiming with a kunai without even seeing the target:
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So we can say that fighting with this method never handicaps Gai at all
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No I didn't forget Sasuke can use Amaterasu and Susano'o at the same time, but A dodged it. Guy in 7th gate is just a little slower than him, but with Onoki on his back he'll become even faster than A v2 so the Sharingan can't track him, and he can possibly penetrate Susano'o.
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Sasuke enton orb does shoot able alot of magatama, but the manga never said it has the same speed of his arrows. So Onoki Rock golem could protect them.
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Guy doesn't have to look down since, he'll be moving at a speed Sasuke nor Kakashi can track meaning no Genjutsu.
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In a 1v1 Kakashi has his chance to beat Guy, though by now he should have learned how he fights. Just like BM Naruto and Chakra Mode Naruto he can become insanely fast in a instant, Guy seemed to just be moving at regular speed when him and Kakashi arrived. When Onoki hops on Guys back in 7th gate, Kakashi has no counter if he hides underground he can be killed since Onoki himself is a doton user and can make a hand to crush Kakashi. I don't see Kamui warping Jinton away Kakashi admitted he can't warp large things, Jinton stretches out and would kill Kakashi. Leaving Sasuke to fight alone possibly loses.
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No, i didn't forget about Onoki's Light-Weight Technique which increase the person speed, but this technique also comes with downfall of decreasing the person's physical force which means Gai might get increase in speed, but his force decreases.
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And has long as Onoki and Gai are using this technique...they are wasting their Chakra, but also only Sasuke will waste his Chakra by protecting them while Kakashi waits for his chance to attack....Onoki can't keep up with just a technique that will decrease their physical force and expect to break Susanoo's defense and notice that Onoki can't attack Susanoo with Jition if he is doing this technique with Gai.
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That light weight technique increased A's speed & strength probably cause he's a taijutsu user like Guy, so I see it doing the same for him.
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When Guy & Onoki rape Kakashi then Sasuke is left alone. How do they win?
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But how will they rape Kakashi if Sasuke is protecting him with his Final Susanoo?
The Manga all ready proved that using physical attacks against Sasuke Susanoo is useless.
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^With black flames as a shield it will stupid idea to use Taijutsu....even if Gai can go at the speed of sound with Onoki's Technique then the rest of touching Sasuke will end the same.
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^The end result of using Taijutsu against Sasuke.
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^This Final Susanoo defense is not just on a whole new level than Ribcage Susanoo, but it also has Blaze Release around which makes touching Sasuke out of the picture.
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I purposely draw a pic as a comparison in size between Deidara's bomb and the maximal power of Onoki's Jinton(when he is charged up by Tsunade) and kakashi warped it with kamui, so he would warp Onoki's Jinton without problems. Kakashi was talking about something with Hachibi's size, height and weight, and things like that rarely exist
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Did you forget Guy has morning peacock, which will destroy Sasuke Susano'o ribcage.
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Onoki with Tsunade chakra Jinton looks 100x times bigger than Deidara little explosion. Kakashi was talking about large objects in general, the most he can warp is a human then he faints from exhaustion. You still never countered how they win tney Onoki on Guys back speed blitzing them.
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Team 1 Extreme high diff, Sasuke has fast techs such as Amaterasu,Susano'o Arrow and Enton Magatama which should be quicker than Jinton in he can hit Onoki with one of those three before Onoki can fire of a Jinton and assists Kakashi in dealing with Gai then team 1 win.