Sasuke & Jiriaya vs The Six Paths of Pain

[Zexion~]

Quickly moving? Sharingan allows him to easily track their movements and know where they will go next. It won't be hard to get them at all and instead of using multiple Amaterasu he can just use Kagutsuchi to incinerate the paths with no defense.

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From that scan it seems that the flames move as fast as Naruto's FRS (Which is fast) Them moving doesn't change anything. Its not like any of the Pains had any tremendous speed feats in the first place.

Unless Pain is going to jump straight to CT then he will use his abilities and as he uses his abilities Sasuke will be able to figure out which one looks the most dangerous. Which would be Preta and Deva considering they are the only ones he can't one shot.

Even if Susanoo melee won't work, Sasuke still has his sword.

His katana? it can not penetrate through susunoo and if he lets it down to use he gets ass raped by remaining paths or BT'd .Seeing how it takes his left eye to use amertarasu and his right to manipulate i doubt he would be able to Pre-cog their movements while using that attack and that enton Kagutsuchi has not been shown to create something large enough to catch all the paths when scattered ..although i did not know that got an upgrade with EMS so that may take down another path ..unless he unknowingly shoots it at preta.

And how so? You said sasuke fires amertarasu to start at a path .. unless that path was deva ( which is unlikely seeing how he is in the middle) Then deva so far has not had to use any abilities seeing as they scattered.. Plus come to think of it If preta was standing in the front You can assume sasuke would simply try to AM him.. meaning the every path would still be .. working, untill EK (That enton thing) That is ( however CT would be charged by now) .. because he is not shooting arrows at Deva, while doing all this

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Sasuke & Jiraiya stomp, you even put them in the rain village where Sasuke can spam Kirin

Rain doesn't equate to Lightning.

 

[KidGamer65]

His katana? it can not penetrate through susunoo and if he lets it down to use he gets ass raped by remaining paths or BT'd .Seeing how it takes his left eye to use amertarasu and his right to manipulate i doubt he would be able to Pre-cog their movements while using that attack and that enton Kagutsuchi has not been shown to create something large enough to catch all the paths when scattered ..although i did not know that got an upgrade with EMS so that may take down another path ..unless he unknowingly shoots it at preta.

And how so? You said sasuke fires amertarasu to start at a path .. unless that path was deva ( which is unlikely seeing how he is in the middle) Then deva so far has not had to use any abilities seeing as they scattered.. Plus come to think of it If preta was standing in the front You can assume sasuke would simply try to AM him.. meaning the every path would still be .. working, untill EK (That enton thing) That is ( however CT would be charged by now) .. because he is not shooting arrows at Deva, while doing all this

The bold is completely wrong.

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The second bold is baseless and Sasuke can shoot projectiles as the scan I posted clearly shows, the projectiles also seem to move as fast as FRS, Pain will get hit.

There are 3 paths standing in the front, Sasuke can choose to hit either any one of them. Nothing says that he will have to hit Preta. He is most likely to hit the one in the middle front anyway, not Preta which is to the left.

Lmao, CT at the beginning of the fight? Not happening. Naruto killed all of the Pains before CT ever became a factor. Not to mention Deva would need to repel the Enton spike coming after him with Shinra Tensei otherwise he would meet a similar fate to the paths that can't guard against it. Meaning 5 seconds later he would get his power back. More than enough time for Sasuke to fire an arrow at him.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

There is evidence that using Susano'O dumbs down the Sharingan's Pre-Cog, so Amaterasu doing the same isnt completely baseless. Though theres not enough to suggest that Amaterasu would do so.

Good catch on the Katana though KG, I didn't even notice that.

 

[KidGamer65]

There is evidence that using Susano'O dumbs down the Sharingan's Pre-Cog, so Amaterasu doing the same isnt completely baseless. Though theres not enough to suggest that Amaterasu would do so.

Really? I guess you learn something new every day.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Really? I guess you learn something new every day.

Well

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is what it was based on. So even that isn't concrete as Kabuto could have meant the act of protecting Sasuke is what made him slower, not Susano'O.

So even that is somewhat of an assumption.

 

[KidGamer65]

Well

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is what it was based on. So even that isn't concrete as Kabuto could have meant the act of protecting Sasuke is what made him slower, not Susano'O.

So even that is somewhat of an assumption.

I think thats what made Itachi slower cause he had the reactions necessary to allow himself to evade the attack, but first he had to coat Sasuke with his own Susanoo and by doing that he probably missed his chance to dodge Muki Tensei.

Also him managing to protect Sasuke means that he did see it coming with his pre cog.

 

[Zexion~]

The bold is completely wrong.

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The second bold is baseless and Sasuke can shoot projectiles as the scan I posted clearly shows, the projectiles also seem to move as fast as FRS, Pain will get hit.

There are 3 paths standing in the front, Sasuke can choose to hit either any one of them. Nothing says that he will have to hit Preta. He is most likely to hit the one in the middle front anyway, not Preta which is to the left.

Lmao, CT at the beginning of the fight? Not happening. Naruto killed all of the Pains before CT ever became a factor. Not to mention Deva would need to repel the Enton spike coming after him with Shinra Tensei otherwise he would meet a similar fate to the paths that can't guard against it. Meaning 5 seconds later he would get his power back. More than enough time for Sasuke to fire an arrow at him.

Wow thats really illogical, (How sasuke can throw his katana out of the susunoo) But even if he did this to preta that would mean his eyes would be taken off the other pains ..
And dude im saying the go around susunoo in a circle !! And the pains are pretty fast .. They all share the same speed,
And Deva was able to keep pace if not OUT-pace a 6 tailed Naruto ..
But fine have some speed feats

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Im not saying he Uses CT from the start ... im saying once he see sasuke is either A: Killing of the paths with amertarasu ( which as i said would take time if their moving)

Or B: See's that sasuke has an almost impenetrable defense in susunoo

 

[DemonicAvenger]

I think thats what made Itachi slower cause he had the reactions necessary to allow himself to evade the attack, but first he had to coat Sasuke with his own Susanoo and by doing that he probably missed his chance to dodge Muki Tensei.

Also him managing to protect Sasuke means that he did see it coming with his pre cog.

Thats what I believe.

I just try to see both sides. Though the whole process of having to knead/release chakra for Susano'O proabably played a role as well.

 

[KidGamer65]

Wow thats really illogical, (How sasuke can throw his katana out of the susunoo) But even if he did this to preta that would mean his eyes would be taken off the other pains ..
And dude im saying the go around susunoo in a circle !! And the pains are pretty fast .. They all share the same speed,
And Deva was able to keep pace if not OUT-pace a 6 tailed Naruto ..
But fine have some speed feats

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Um, that would come after Pain has scattered like you said, the only Pains left would be Deva and Preta, 1 of them would have been taken out by Amaterasu and via Kagutsuchi, he can make spikes out of the flames he just used to incinerate one Pain and shoot them out at the others.

Deva didn't outpace KN6. He had a massive head start.

(1) and (2) are hardly notable speed feats as they were both surprise attacks on Pains part.

Naruto killed 5 Paths over a long battle for Pain decided to use CT.

He wouldn't be able to figure out Susanoo is an impressive defense unless he actually fought it first instead of immediately using CT after some of his Paths are killed. It doesn't make sense for him to use his strongest move that also contains heavy health risks for him, against a foe he knows nothing about, from the get go.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

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An off panel speed feat. Nothing is truely impressive about this.

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Again, an off panel speed feat. Not impressive as Jiriaya was already battling Preta and Animal Path wasn't shown until he was already behind him.

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How is that fast? 4TK and 6TK were always power houses. EMS Sasuke slashing out of Obito's hideout and using Shunshin to the top of the hill was far more impressive.

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This doesn't prove anything.

 

[slaton02]

With knowledge Jiraiya can possibly solo Deva path would be the biggest problem he'll take out atleast 5 adding Sasuke is a win (he wouldn't be able to solo like Jiraiya though)

 

[Zexion~]

Um, that would come after Pain has scattered like you said, the only Pains left would be Deva and Preta, 1 of them would have been taken out by Amaterasu and via Kagutsuchi, he can make spikes out of the flames he just used to incinerate one Pain and shoot them out at the others.

Deva didn't outpace KN6. He had a massive head start.

(1) and (2) are hardly notable speed feats as they were both surprise attacks on Pains part.

True .. but i usually count sneak attacks as speed feats because as you can see they were able to reach that speed .. which is pretty fastt.. whether the other person was able to account for them or not .And about the Kyuubi .. as you can see the gap never increased nor decreased .. so i suppose he did not out-pace him but he at least was able to go the SAME peace

And true about the spikes out of the flames he had just incinerated however, as i said they are moving quickly .. so they would definitely not hit them all, maybe 1 or 2 .. But still like i said this whole time Deva would be Charging CT .. seeing as he would be able to notice nothing else will work .

 

[DemonicAvenger]

With knowledge Jiraiya can possibly solo Deva path would be the biggest problem he'll take out atleast 5 adding Sasuke is a win (he wouldn't be able to solo like Jiraiya though)

Pain already admited that Jiraya could have taken him out if he had intel.

Largely due to the fact Pain wasn't willing to use Chou Shinra Tensei or Chibaku Tensei in Amegakure.

 

[KidGamer65]

True .. but i usually count sneak attacks as speed feats because as you can see they were able to reach that speed .. which is pretty fastt.. whether the other person was able to account for them or not .And about the Kyuubi .. as you can see the gap never increased nor decreased .. so i suppose he did not out-pace him but he at least was able to go the SAME peace

And true about the spikes out of the flames he had just incinerated however, as i said they are moving quickly .. so they would definitely not hit them all, maybe 1 or 2 .. But still like i said this whole time Deva would be Charging CT .. seeing as he would be able to notice nothing else will work .

So 1 Pain gets hit with amaterasu and they all start wildly running around Sasuke's Susanoo?. Sasuke's Enton spikes moved as fast as Naruto's FRS as the scan of the most recent chapter I posted shows. When they are in that formation and 1 of them gets lit up (Leaving flames that Sasuke can shoot spikes out of) there is no way they are dodging them just like that. Even if he misses them. Further uses Amaterasu mean further control of the flames. Soon there will be areas of black flames all over the battlefield that could spawn any kind of Enton projectile at Sasuke's will waiting to slam right into Pain. Also the flames covering the field limit Pain's mobility and it will bring on Thunder Clouds allowing Kirin to be used eventually.


For him to be charging CT this whole time like you claim he will. He would have to start from the moment the fight begins cause this goes down at the beginning of the fight. Him using CT right from the get go is not likely.

Like DemonicAvenger said, those are off panel speed feats. The one with Animal Path hardly counts as a speed feat as when they showed him he was already behind Jiraiya.

Its not like KN6 is known to be a speedster anyway. This speed is nothing that Sasuke can't deal with.

 

[Zexion~]

So 1 Pain gets hit with amaterasu and they all start wildly running around Sasuke's Susanoo?. Sasuke's Enton spikes moved as fast as Naruto's FRS as the scan of the most recent chapter I posted shows. When they are in that formation and 1 of them gets lit up (Leaving flames that Sasuke can shoot spikes out of) there is no way they are dodging them just like that. Even if he misses them. Further uses Amaterasu mean further control of the flames. Soon there will be areas of black flames all over the battlefield that could spawn any kind of Enton projectile at Sasuke's will waiting to slam right into Pain. Also the flames covering the field limit Pain's mobility and it will bring on Thunder Clouds allowing Kirin to be used eventually.


For him to be charging CT this whole time like you claim he will. He would have to start from the moment the fight begins cause this goes down at the beginning of the fight. Him using CT right from the get go is not likely.

Like DemonicAvenger said, those are off panel speed feats. The one with Animal Path hardly counts as a speed feat as when they showed him he was already behind Jiraiya.

Its not like KN6 is known to be a speedster anyway. This speed is nothing that Sasuke can't deal with.

Sasuke has not proven to cover the whole battlefield with amertarasu therefore im not gona think he can .. EMS may of upped his stamina but not that much :/ And no one pain gets hit and they scatter ..then begin to distract sasuke by circling him .. Either after one or 2 more deaths from his pains .. he realizes that the only way to break susunoo is with CT.

Stop trying to make my argument into "the pains are running around aimlessly" they are distracting sasuke .. Kirin can Be ST'd Away ( obviously a bigger then normal ST) .. And like i said Deva pain would begin charging up CT after a few of the pains deaths so while sasuke kills the others CT will be ready ..

And KY6 may not be known to be a speedster .. however it was already shown that the cloak up's naruto's speed .. just one tail and he blitzed orochimaru .. stating that KY6 And base naruto are equal in speed is absurd .. All that extra chakra and his speed is going to stay the same?

EDit- i see what you are trying to say about pain charging CT .. I suppose he would be scattered around sasuke with the others .. and after sasuke takes out 2 or 3 of the paths THEN they begin circling around sasuke for the distraction .. so pain would start charging CT .. He would also most likely use summons to block sasuke's path to deva while he is charging ..

 

[ItachiStylez]

And KY6 may not be known to be a speedster .. however it was already shown that the cloak up's naruto's speed .. just one tail and he blitzed orochimaru .. stating that KY6 And base naruto are equal in speed is absurd .. All that extra chakra and his speed is going to stay the same?

BM Bee is slower than V2 Bee

 

[Scooby Doo]

Sasuke and Jiraiya wins. Jiraiya took down 3 Peins, I think Sasuke can handle the rest. Deva is the only problem, but they can pull it off .

 

[Strict]

Blaze Release Magatamas will cause enough problems for Pain. Let Jiraiya taking care of Gakido and the other paths are possibly one shotted. Using the Shinra Tensei as a countermove, Tendo becomes a target for the arrow of Sasuke's Susanoo within his interval.

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Jiraiya and Sasuke take this, Enton Magatama and Susano'o Arrow would be able to take out multiple paths and Frog Song can stun the remaining paths leaving them vulnerable to Amaterasu or Chou Oodama Rasengan.​