Sasuke isn't a Hypocrite

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DAnzo plotted against konoha for no other reason but power for himself U_U

Yeah and Sasuke's plotting against the whole world and planning to execute their leaders something Danzo never did U_U

 

[AlphaScythian]

wrong danzo cared about the village in his own sick way

Yup, his way is sick to the point of letting pain obliterate it, just to claim hokage seat over nobody U_U

Yeah and Sasuke's plotting against the whole world and planning to execute their leaders something Danzo never did U_U

Who cares for warmongering leaders anyway? He brings the revolution for the better of people not leaders

 

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But Sasuke has done nothing that Danzo has done. How is it fair to label him another Danzo?

Danzō wanted to get rid of the Uchiha because he thought they ruined Konoha.
Sasuke wants to get rid of Kages and everyone who stands on his way because it ruins his plans.

He was probably going to be pardoned for helping/saving throughout the war but he piled his crimes up with his latest statement.​

DAnzo plotted against konoha for no other reason but power for himself U_U

wrong danzo cared about the village in his own sick way

Not true at all U_U

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[Naruto X Hunter]

Sasuke attacked the cloud village in an attempt to capture Bee, an action that could have led to war. Why? Because he wanted some Biju power. He later then invaded a secret meeting( that was being held as a result of his previous action) attacked the kages and even killed some samurai.
He abandoned his comrades when they were captured and even tried to kill one of them because he doesnt need her. The kages aren't without any blame but Sasuke is definitely not in any position to take the high moral ground here.

Sasuke was after only Danzo.Zetsu told the Kages they were there and the Raikage searched,found,and attacked him,and Gaara came and did so aswell.

Then he went to the Meeting room where he believed Danzo was,when he saw he wasn't there,he started to head for the exit then Mei sealed it,Sasuke even told her not to get in his way.She still attacked him and then the Tsuchikage did.Then tobi came and got Sasuke.

The Kages attacked him.Don't make it seem like he went there to attack them when he was only after Danzo.Sasuke and the Kages both did bad things.The difference is the Kages present and past did alot more.Also Sasuke is not a Leader to the Shinobi world/System.He is not held on the same standard as they are.Just like we aren't held on the same standard as the President/Leaders of our country.

If you make bad choices that deosn't mean you have no right to judge others for their bad actions,especially if theres are far worse than yours and or they have authority over others.

These are leaders to Nations who are responsible for alot of things. - Sasuke is not one of these people,he deosn't lead Hundreds of Thousands of people to 3 World Wars who shitted on small countries like the Rain Village which they used as a battlefield.He also didn't send grown men to invade and kidnap little girls (Kushina,Hinata).

Nothing new. People will antagonise Danzō as trash for his actions because he has wrinkles
but Sasuke will be justified because he has a soft face.

Sasuke fanboys are too one-dimensional U_U​

Did anyone saw that Sasuke never did anything wrong? Why is Sasuke being held to the same standards as Leaders to countries?

Sasuke trying to capture Bee is not as big as the Shinobi Leaders Leading Hundreds of Thousands of people into multiple World Wars,Or hiding away massacres,or Invading and attempting to destroy Villages.etc.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

He apologized to Karin when he saw her again,and he decided to protect Konoha rather than destroying it.Clearly he saw that destroying Konoha isn't the right thing to do.


What piont did they have?

I was referring to Sasuke when I said " he has a point".

 

[AlphaScythian]

Not true at all U_U

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Not true what? His lunatic words prove nothing. He left konoha being raised to the ground more then once U_U

Actions > words

 

[Jcub]

Dude how about reading the comments above,instead of biasly hating on Sasuke.Thats all he did.


They ignore and or forget that there was three prevoius World Wars.That Hashirama gave out the Bijuu to each land as weapons/military power,which the akatsuki were able to get their hands on.They ignore/forget that the Kages themselves HIRED the Akatsuki for WAR,and act as if Sasuke has no piont.

I don't need the comments or this thread to know what I see, as if some how your reasoning away and excuses for your fictional hero means anything to me... Get over yourself.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

How was wanting to kill Itachi to avenge their family which he killed selfish? You probably get mad over someone stepping on your shoe yet you hate on Sasuke for wanting to avenge his families massacre? And Sasuke didn't truly "join" the Akatsuki - i posted links in my post above and the Kages/Shinobi Nations themselves have used the Akastuki - they HIRED them for WAR yet you make a big deal out of Sasuke joining for a few days for his own plans without knowing or caring about theirs.



Lol oh yeah the Uchihas who were loyal to Konoha (Military Police force) should be blamed for what Obito and Madara who was believed to be dead did.Lol and didn't danzo stop shisui from using KA on the Uchihas to peacefully stop them from the Coup? Danzo brought them to their demise.

Didn't Danzo,one of the leaders of Konoha have Orochimaru,A Infamous S class missing Nin Sanin former Akatsuki member known to do human experiments impant Hashiramas cells on him? And Sharingans from the Massacre?

Doesn't really matter , sasuke did a job for the akatsuki which was attacking killer b and capturing him so yeah he's legitimacy one of the akatsuki , and yes him going after itachi for revenge was selfish cause he took it from a personal view not as konoha shinobi which obviously selfish and forgive me I wasn't interested on your earlier post cause I didn't see any logic in it

 

[lucario14]

What does grown person actions have to do with their teacher? I mean how could they possibly be responsible for their OLD students actions ?

They are not fully responsible but can be held accountable for negligence. Also don't tell me hiruzen and tobirama weren't at fault for orochimaru and danzo, respectively

And even so everyone makes mistakes and it's not like saskue won't matter fact why did sasuke leave the village even tho he was part of it and wasn't ordered to do it ? Isn't that selfish?

Why couldn't he leave such a village that drove his clan to extinction and hid the truth from him. Chances are that if he stayed, he would get executed by danzo anyway. Wasn't it strange that in the beginning of shippuden that sai received a direct order to kill sasuke from danzo? What's worse is that he was higher on the bingo book than kabuto. Sasuke higher than kabuto wtf?!

What gives him to right to jude people when he killed someone for selfish resons

Which people?

and left his village , attacked his former teammate, went with the village worst enemies?

Better to leave the corrupt village and seek the truth out on his own. Tell me would he be as powerful if he didn't leave the village to pursue his own ambitions? NO

Weak argument you got right there sir

Weaker counter you made dude

 

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Yup, his way is sick to the point of letting pain obliterate it, just to claim hokage seat over nobody U_U


Who cares for warmongering leaders anyway? He brings the revolution for the better of people not leaders

Then isn't he by definition a warmongering individual if he's going to bring down a system via violence?

@Underline what people? you me the people he's jeopardizing their lives by trying to kill Naruto :| Sasuke's a self destructive psychopath and he's only doing this for himself.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Danzō wanted to get rid of the Uchiha because he thought they ruined Konoha.
Sasuke wants to get rid of Kages and everyone who stands on his way because it ruins his plans.

He was probably going to be pardoned for helping/saving throughout the war but he piled his crimes up with his latest statement.​

So you are mostly referring to his mindset over his actions? Because Sasuke has not done those plans yet.

 

[TrollingSage]

Sasuke was after only Danzo.Zetsu told the Kages they were there and the Raikage searched,found,and attacked him,and Gaara came and did so aswell.

Then he went to the Meeting room where he believed Danzo was,when he saw he wasn't there,he started to head for the exit then Mei sealed it,Sasuke even told her not to get in his way.She still attacked him and then the Tsuchikage did.Then tobi came and got Sasuke.

The Kages attacked him.Don't make it seem like he went there to attack them when he was only after Danzo.Sasuke and the Kages both did bad things.The difference is the Kages present and past did alot more.Also Sasuke is not a Leader to the Shinobi world/System.He is not held on the same standard as they are.Just like we aren't held on the same standard as the President/Leaders of our country.

If you make bad choices that deosn't mean you have no right to judge others for their bad actions,especially if theres are far worse than yours and or they have authority over others.

These are leaders to Nations who are responsible for alot of things. - Sasuke is not one of these people,he deosn't lead Hundreds of Thousands of people to 3 World Wars who shitted on small countries like the Rain Village which they used as a battlefield.He also didn't send grown men to invade and kidnap little girls (Kushina,Hinata).

Alright lets apply COMMON SENSE here. Sasuke walked into a secret kage meeting to assasinate one of them. Did he seriously believe the other kages were just going to be spectators? Of course not. Also the Raikage attacked him because he thought he had kidnapped Bee(he tried but failed).Sasuke was also planning to destroy the entire leaf village before he met Itachi and the former Hokages. So lets not pretend Sasuke is an innocent kid.

 

[Mad Daz]

Great post OP. Yet to be countered in the slightest. Ofc certain kages made warmonger like moves but it was the uchiha who were manipulated into starting everything.

 

[TrollingSage]

How was wanting to kill Itachi to avenge their family which he killed selfish? You probably get mad over someone stepping on your shoe yet you hate on Sasuke for wanting to avenge his families massacre? And Sasuke didn't truly "join" the Akatsuki - i posted links in my post above and the Kages/Shinobi Nations themselves have used the Akastuki - they HIRED them for WAR yet you make a big deal out of Sasuke joining for a few days for his own plans without knowing or caring about theirs.



Lol oh yeah the Uchihas who were loyal to Konoha (Military Police force) should be blamed for what Obito and Madara who was believed to be dead did.Lol and didn't danzo stop shisui from using KA on the Uchihas to peacefully stop them from the Coup? Danzo brought them to their demise.

Didn't Danzo,one of the leaders of Konoha have Orochimaru,A Infamous S class missing Nin Sanin former Akatsuki member known to do human experiments impant Hashiramas cells on him? And Sharingans from the Massacre?

How many people knew Obito and Madara were alive? That's right 0. Fact is people saw the sharingan on the kyubi's eyes and assumed it was the Uchiha behind it. Don't get me wrong I think Danzo is a villain as well but he certainly isn't responsible for framing the Uchiha for the kyubi incident. The uchiha did that themselves.

 

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Did anyone saw that Sasuke never did anything wrong? Why is Sasuke being held to the same standards as Leaders to countries?

Sasuke trying to capture Bee is not as big as the Shinobi Leaders Leading Hundreds of Thousands of people into multiple World Wars,Or hiding away massacres,or Invading and attempting to destroy Villages.etc.

What the hell is this supposed to mean? If I rob a bank and kill 3 people but never get caught or seen am I innocent ? No.​

Not true what? His lunatic words prove nothing. He left konoha being raised to the ground more then once U_U

Actions > words

And Sasuke half lunatic actions and claims prove nothing except desire to rule everything into his hand just like Danzō.

He has malice as Naruto sensed it during the war.​

So you are mostly referring to his mindset over his actions? Because Sasuke has not done those plans yet.

Yes he despised Danzō for the same actions he is about to take.

He already was a missing nin : helped reviving the Juubi, attacked World leader summit, planned to kill every citizen in Konoha, attacked Kumo etc.​

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

I don't need the comments or this thread to know what I see, as if some how your reasoning away and excuses for your fictional hero means anything to me... Get over yourself.

And don't you hate on this fictional character? You obvoiusly don't know the story good enough not to talk schitt.and you would prefer to ignore others who can counter your bias hate.

Tell me if you don't need this thread then why would you come back to it and read comments? Facts you don't like equals excuses.

The Kages are responsible for alot of things.You don't want to realize that cause Sasuke so it but if Naruto or anyone else did then you would agree.

Tell me,did the Kages not get into 3 Prevoius world wars? Did they not HIRE the akatsuki for WAR? Yet sasuke has no piont lol.

Great post OP. Yet to be countered in the slightest. Ofc certain kages made warmonger like moves but it was the uchiha who were manipulated into starting everything.

So the Uchiha started the first 3 World wars? The uchiha gave out the Bijuu to each village as military weapons which the Akatsuki later took? The uchihas made the Kages HIRE the akatsuki for WAR?


The Kages aren't the cause of anything.The leaders of the Shinobi World and System aren't responsible for the Shinobi world to get into 3 World Wars which created the Akatsuki? Yup its all the Uchihas fault.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Then isn't he by definition a warmongering individual if he's going to bring down a system via violence?

Nope, he doesnt call for any war, the war will happen if kages be aware of his intentions thus innocents dead.

Kages are no innocents, killing them is most efficient way to save lives.

 

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says he wants to create a non-corruptable system->does the exact things that made the previous system corrupt(justify killing people as sacrifice for the greater good,same BS that danzo did with the uchihas).
if that isn't being a hypocrite what is then.
a half a brainer with a god complex who's only answer to everything is "kill it with fire",can never change anything.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

They are not fully responsible but can be held accountable for negligence. Also don't tell me hiruzen and tobirama weren't at fault for orochimaru and danzo, respectivelyWhy couldn't he leave such a village that drove his clan to extinction and hid the truth from him. Chances are that if he stayed, he would get executed by danzo anyway. Wasn't it strange that in the beginning of shippuden that sai received a direct order to kill sasuke from danzo? What's worse is that he was higher on the bingo book than kabuto. Sasuke higher than kabuto wtf?!Which people? Better to leave the corrupt village and seek the truth out on his own. Tell me would he be as powerful if he didn't leave the village to pursue his own ambitions? NO

Weaker counter you made dude

Everyone had a bad child but you don't see them running around asking about the truth , and I understand that it's part of his character and all but **** at that time sasuke didn't even know it was partly the village fault for his clan mascure .

He killed the samurai at kage place amd he killed danzo

Sasuke would be weaker than now if he was in the village but power isn't all , there's something called"loyalty" and sasuke didn't have that and I know that you'll say "oh they were the reason for his family death " still you don't think about your clan only you also should think about your village (but we not talking about that now )


Sasuke is hypocrite whether you like or not

 

[AlphaScythian]

And Sasuke half lunatic actions and claims prove nothing except desire to rule everything into his hand just like Danzō.

He has malice as Naruto sensed it during the war.​

Sasuke has saved more lives then danzo, who up till now just been ****ing everyone's lives.
Half lunatic is better then way overboard like danzo.

Naruto hasnt sensed shit, but perhaps the fact that sasuke wants to kill bijus and as jin he must die too.