[Discussion] Sasuke is underrated.

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You are diverting from our conversation just now to go back to prove that kabuto said that Amaterasu is the best technique, you've used the manga to prove that & that alone.

You've not proved Sasuke has solo'd the Juubi because the Juubi has not been defeated yet & you really believe Kishi will kill the Juubi before it reached the final stage just like that with one technique? No.

It never said the Juubi been defeated it has ?! at the end leaving you in suspense. Relax :) no need to whine, I only have to wait till the next chapter to prove you are wrong & then I bet you, you will remain quiet that your beloved Sasuke didn't "solo the Juubi with Amatesaru"

Considering the Juubi has the Rinnegan, The technique we know so far that solve this little issue is shinra tensei, which Nagato did to blow off the black flames off him. =D
 

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Sasuke's cool and all.. I mean he's strong.. But, sage of six paths? Naruto would decimate Sasuke no problem. I just think the main problem is that Naruto is afraid of hurting Sasuke too much. He really does still think of him as a friend, that's why in their past encounters it seemed like Sasuke was more powerful. But, in actuality, not at all.. He just doesn't hold back and Naruto definitely does..
 

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Sorry man, but you overreacted and exaggerated what really happened in The latest chapter

First: I agree that Sasuke could be underated before but for sure not now, as Sasuke's fanboys/wankers stating Sasuke> Juubi as you did in one part of your post. That is literally stupid.

Let's me explain you why:

  • Juubi isn't dead , is it ?!
  • Ok, You may say that in bottom last page of manga is text saying: "Juubi is defeated" ?,
  • Now I will bring Kinkaku's and Ginkaku's quote: "Like they always say, 'silence is golden'. Words are the true source of all the world's ills… right Ginkaku?"
    The Words are used to decieve people unless they are backed up with proof(ie. Juubi shown being dead)
    Kurama's quote to Naruto: "Naruto… If you really want to do something for us… then do what you've always done… Prove it to us with your actions! That's who you are!
    Focus espacially at bold words, In Sasuke's case, it would be: "Prove it to us with manga panels " , then we believes
  • Naruto used Giant Wind release: Rasen Shuriken to empower Sasuke's Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi, so Sasuke didn't solo anything as matter of fact. Whenever he could do same damage alone or no, it is debetable but high unlikely, considering amount of chakra Naruto had to put in Wind release: rasen shuriken
  • Juubi is God(Progenitor of Shinobi World), it can't be destroyed by Amaterasu or just powerfull combo.
  • Juubi'e eye looks like Sharingan and Rinnengan(considering Juubi= sharingan's and rinnengan's source)-> Juubi can use Kamui to pass through black flames, Amaterasu, Put Amatersu black flames out, Sussano, Shinra Tensei, some hax Rinnengan technique we don't see yet, shed it's skin ?!
  • Juubi is the greatest of tailed beast, made of nature energy with immeasurable amount of chakra. In case you say that Amaterasu burn chakra, then Juubi has infinite amount of it, try to counter it. It could only creates more danger for Sasuke and rest as Juubi covered by Black flames would attack them creating danger of burn someone it's touch with it's arms. Remember that tailed beast can regenerate and revive itself after some time.
  • Juubi's is pinned by Fourth Hokages with rechargeable amount of chakra ! + Hashirama in Sage mode sepcial torri gates !
  • Juubi only screamed, this is unknown how much damage Blaze Release: Kagatsuchi combined with Giant Wind release: Rasen Shuriken have done to it. There is hight possibility that Juubi will continue to fight while regenerating or brush fire off it's body
  • Madara would be worried and step down if Juubi was in danger
  • Juubi, tanked it's own massive bijuudama, which is > Blaze Release: Kagatsuchi combined with Giant Wind release: Rasen Shuriken, it may enough durable to continue fighting with black flames on it
That all reasons would be enough

In short:

Show me manga scans of dead Juubi, or how much damage it got from it, besides Hype and Kishi cheesy text to keep reader decieved =D, Now I am waiting =D


EDIT: Sasuke is in Top 10 for sure, but probably around 7th or 8th place, not in TOP 5 yet, but will be soon as he shows more
 
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Amaterasu isn't the strongest technique,
shinra tensei or prethapath can deal with it, also it didn't effect obito <---- ((this is also taken from manga.))
You say Amaterasu has been 'stated' as the strongest but clearly from above examples we can say that statements are ""wrong"".
And Damn,, you think juubi has been defeated by this shit? XD XD

Also never make a retarted thread again
 

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Amaterasu isn't the strongest technique,
shinra tensei or prethapath can deal with it, also it didn't effect obito <---- ((this is also taken from manga.))
You say Amaterasu has been 'stated' as the strongest but clearly from above examples we can say that statements are ""wrong"".
And Damn,, you think juubi has been defeated by this shit? XD XD

Also never make a retarted thread again

^ this guy here, says the manga is wrong.
It finally happened, fanboys have went to the point to say, the manga itself is wrong.
 

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Sorry man, but you overreacted and exaggerated what really happened in The latest chapter

First: I agree that Sasuke could be underated before but for sure not now, as Sasuke's fanboys/wankers stating Sasuke> Juubi as you did in one part of your post. That is literally stupid.

Let's me explain you why:

  • Juubi isn't dead , is it ?!
  • Ok, You may say that in bottom last page of manga is text saying: "Juubi is defeated" ?,
  • Now I will bring Kinkaku's and Ginkaku's quote: "Like they always say, 'silence is golden'. Words are the true source of all the world's ills… right Ginkaku?"
    The Words are used to decieve people unless they are backed up with proof(ie. Juubi shown being dead)
    Kurama's quote to Naruto: "Naruto… If you really want to do something for us… then do what you've always done… Prove it to us with your actions! That's who you are!
    Focus espacially at bold words, In Sasuke's case, it would be: "Prove it to us with manga panels " , then we believes
  • Naruto used Giant Wind release: Rasen Shuriken to empower Sasuke's Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi, so Sasuke didn't solo anything as matter of fact. Whenever he could do same damage alone or no, it is debetable but high unlikely, considering amount of chakra Naruto had to put in Wind release: rasen shuriken
  • Juubi is God(Progenitor of Shinobi World), it can't be destroyed by Amaterasu or just powerfull combo.
  • Juubi'e eye looks like Sharingan and Rinnengan(considering Juubi= sharingan's and rinnengan's source)-> Juubi can use Kamui to pass through black flames, Amaterasu, Put Amatersu black flames out, Sussano, Shinra Tensei, some hax Rinnengan technique we don't see yet, shed it's skin ?!
  • Juubi is the greatest of tailed beast, made of nature energy with immeasurable amount of chakra. In case you say that Amaterasu burn chakra, then Juubi has infinite amount of it, try to counter it. It could only creates more danger for Sasuke and rest as Juubi covered by Black flames would attack them creating danger of burn someone it's touch with it's arms. Remember that tailed beast can regenerate and revive itself after some time.
  • Juubi's is pinned by Fourth Hokages with rechargeable amount of chakra ! + Hashirama in Sage mode sepcial torri gates !
  • Juubi only screamed, this is unknown how much damage Blaze Release: Kagatsuchi combined with Giant Wind release: Rasen Shuriken have done to it. There is hight possibility that Juubi will continue to fight while regenerating or brush fire off it's body
  • Madara would be worried and step down if Juubi was in danger
  • Juubi, tanked it's own massive bijuudama, which is > Blaze Release: Kagatsuchi combined with Giant Wind release: Rasen Shuriken, it may enough durable to continue fighting with black flames on it
That all reasons would be enough

In short:

Show me manga scans of dead Juubi, or how much damage it got from it, besides Hype and Kishi cheesy text to keep reader decieved =D, Now I am waiting =D


EDIT: Sasuke is in Top 10 for sure, but probably around 7th or 8th place, not in TOP 5 yet, but will be soon as he shows more

Lmfao exactly! Thank you for this post

But this guy will not listen to reason, he will do everything in his power to go on about his Sasuke-Kun. Our words will not reach him, All his interested in is Sasuke D... =D
 

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Don't you think that by saying that amaterasu would solo the Juubi implies an overestimated Sasuke?

The juubi is trapped on the ground. By four Hokages.
It's weakend. It's been fighting for a long time, it probably used a lot of chakra. It isn't even a full Juubi.
And he's divided himself in a bunch of mini-Juubi. Which is being defeated(not actually) by an army of ninja.

That is not what I would call solo.
It's just like saying that Naruto, alone, has been holding the Juubi so far. Which is a lie. He had a lot of help.

It's just like saying that Minato could solo the Juubi by redirecting every attack to the main body.
He could have done that. Even that wouldn't "kill" the Juubi, since you can't "kill" a Bijuu to begin with.
If it were a 1x1 situation, Sasuke could use amaterasu for life spam. He would NEVER finish the Juubi unless he sealed it.
Which means, somebody WILL have to be a jinchuuriki. Or someone will have to divide the Juubi into 9. Which could work, considering the idea of them being friends with Naruto. They wouldn't attack, but I wouldn't say the same about the alliance. Which, in my opinion, would be interesting. I mean, probably Naruto would try and defend the Bijuu's after the division. He would try to convince that they are not "evil".
 
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^ this guy here, says the manga is wrong.
It finally happened, fanboys have went to the point to say, the manga itself is wrong.

I told you things from manga also, you told only some statements which sometimes turn out wrong, like amaterasu was 'said to be' undodgeable but Ay dodged it. Okay now if you wanna talk about something then explain this, dont change the topic.
 

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Sorry man, but you overreacted and exaggerated what really happened in The latest chapter

First: I agree that Sasuke could be underated before but for sure not now, as Sasuke's fanboys/wankers stating Sasuke> Juubi as you did in one part of your post. That is literally stupid.

Let's me explain you why:

  • 1.Juubi isn't dead , is it ?!
  • 2.Ok, You may say that in bottom last page of manga is text saying: "Juubi is defeated" ?,
  • 3.Now I will bring Kinkaku's and Ginkaku's quote: "Like they always say, 'silence is golden'. Words are the true source of all the world's ills… right Ginkaku?"
    The Words are used to decieve people unless they are backed up with proof(ie. Juubi shown being dead)
    Kurama's quote to Naruto: "Naruto… If you really want to do something for us… then do what you've always done… Prove it to us with your actions! That's who you are!
    Focus espacially at bold words, In Sasuke's case, it would be: "Prove it to us with manga panels " , then we believes
  • 4.Naruto used Giant Wind release: Rasen Shuriken to empower Sasuke's Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi, so Sasuke didn't solo anything as matter of fact. Whenever he could do same damage alone or no, it is debetable but high unlikely, considering amount of chakra Naruto had to put in Wind release: rasen shuriken
  • 5.Juubi is God(Progenitor of Shinobi World), it can't be destroyed by Amaterasu or just powerfull combo.
  • 6.Juubi'e eye looks like Sharingan and Rinnengan(considering Juubi= sharingan's and rinnengan's source)-> Juubi can use Kamui to pass through black flames, Amaterasu, Put Amatersu black flames out, Sussano, Shinra Tensei, some hax Rinnengan technique we don't see yet, shed it's skin ?!
  • 7.Juubi is the greatest of tailed beast, made of nature energy with immeasurable amount of chakra. In case you say that Amaterasu burn chakra, then Juubi has infinite amount of it, try to counter it. It could only creates more danger for Sasuke and rest as Juubi covered by Black flames would attack them creating danger of burn someone it's touch with it's arms. Remember that tailed beast can regenerate and revive itself after some time.
  • 8.Juubi's is pinned by Fourth Hokages with rechargeable amount of chakra ! + Hashirama in Sage mode sepcial torri gates !
  • 9.Juubi only screamed, this is unknown how much damage Blaze Release: Kagatsuchi combined with Giant Wind release: Rasen Shuriken have done to it. There is hight possibility that Juubi will continue to fight while regenerating or brush fire off it's body
  • 10.Madara would be worried and step down if Juubi was in danger
  • 11.Juubi, tanked it's own massive bijuudama, which is > Blaze Release: Kagatsuchi combined with Giant Wind release: Rasen Shuriken, it may enough durable to continue fighting with black flames on it
That all reasons would be enough

In short:

Show me manga scans of dead Juubi, or how much damage it got from it, besides Hype and Kishi cheesy text to keep reader decieved =D, Now I am waiting =D


EDIT: Sasuke is in Top 10 for sure, but probably around 7th or 8th place, not in TOP 5 yet, but will be soon as he shows more

You should have let me know if you editted your post, i simply jump to the last page of my thread since i knew i have seen all replies in page 1.
I only see your post when this guy above quoted you.

Rep for actually trying to take a stand and not being a noob who just go make claims without backing up with manga.

1. Manga text says its dead. I am not saying something out of my own will, its in the manga. But obito can come out anytime and kamui all the amaterasu.

2. ...
3. The thing written down in the text below wasn't a character stating it, it was kishi himself.That rule applies to characters in the manga, and still now always.
Usually we consider what the character states as facts until contradict or proven wrong in manga.
Like for example, we believe madara have amaterasu because it was stated in DB but madara was never shown to use it.
one more example can be, hiruzen being considered as god of shinobi until manga contradict it when suigetsu said shodai as god of shinobi.
Another one is , madara forcefully taking eyes from izuna being false as stated by itachi , when obito/madara said that madara loved his bro. too much and izuna gave it with his own will.
Also one more example, we used to believe kyuubi incident as a natural disaster as stated by obito until we were shown what actually happened as told by kushina.

AS for proof, as i stated in point 1 , kishi himself says juubi is defeated.
Note that i am saying juubi is defeated not killed. One simply cannot kill the juubi, it will respawn once again after some time.

Orochimaru has been defeated in manga many times in manga but was never actually killed. Itachi solo orochimaru not killed. It is a fact of manga.

4. Highly unlikely ? are u kidding me ?
Itachi alone burnt down a whole forest with amaterasu. Sasuke >> itachi in using amaterasu(which is also stated in manga). You do the math.

5. But it got defeated, as i explained in OP. you refute the manga?

6. this is assumption. I also believe juubi can use all sharingan doujutsu but its still assumption.

7. Juubi don't have infinite chakra. No body can have infinite chakra (edo being an exception)

8. So what? This doesn't mean juubi can counter amaterasu from what we have seen in manga.

9. As i mention earlier, sasuke can spread amaterasu and spread it all over the juubi.

10. troll much? he don't care about anything else except hashirama. He didn't even noticed a guy who totally vanished the juubi dama. Or a guy with EMS. Or tobirama or hiruzen. And yeah, he was actually waiting for hashirama to deal with the juubi and then fight him.

11. Stupid assumption. Amaterasu >>> bijju dama. Amaterasu is faster, cannot be counter by non kamui users. Takes less chakra. Sasuke can control how much damage to cause.
With the reaction of minato and tobirama and k11 , kishi text in bottom , my points still stands.
 
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