Sasuke Is Too Godly. I Give Up.

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Yes sharingan and rinnegan are two different things but what makes you think the rinnegan grants such abilities? Why didn't nagato, madara and obito start using KKG and KKT from thin air?

I am not wasting anytime you are refusing to accept the limitations of the rinnegan

Yes only 3 do. The 5 tails(boil release), shukaku(magnet release) and son goku(lava release). All the other bijuu have special abilities that don't fall under KKG, kurama doesn't even have anything.

Storm release??
 

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1. Yang release is not a KKG, it's only a KKG when it's mixed with another element i.e : (earth+water)+yang = Mokuton

2. Sasuke can't use use KKG jutsu because he doesn't have the DNA to combine elements.

3. bijuu chakra =/= absorbing KKG, the KKG can only be used if the chakra is sealed within the user
 

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what makes you think the rinnegan grants such abilities?

Because Hagoromo who has a Rinnegan separate and create all 9 chakra bijuu's,

- Kurama clearly stated that he's doing the opposite of Hagoromo did with the bijuu's chakra.


Why didn't nagato, madara and obito start using KKG and KKT from thin air?

Those are questions only kishi can answer.

- Why didn't nagato use any of the 6 elements that he mastered at ten?


Yes only 3 do. The 5 tails(boil release), shukaku(magnet release) and son goku(lava release). All the other bijuu have special abilities that don't fall under KKG, kurama doesn't even have anything.

You're a clever person for thinking only 3 of the 9 used kekkei genkai.
 
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You are correct, but on a few fronts:

- The Bijuu chakra does seem to have some distinct properties, such as the ability to boil or acidic melting or magma level heat. Some of the dimensions Kaguya shifted shared their properties indefinitely. I doubt Kishimoto will explain it though.

- Kurama didn't know what was Sasuke doing. It seemed like he was creating his own Juubi; only contained within the Mezo-like structure of his Susano'o.

Now the question arises; can Sasuke really combine their Chakra Properties into some kind of advanced KT or KK? Let's wait and see. So far, this is speculation.
 

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He had RSM like Naruto, the KKG came from the Juubi not the Rinnegan

Kindly state what are you say clearly so I can reply accordingly.


can Sasuke really combine their Chakra Properties into some kind of advanced KT or KK? Let's wait and see. So far, this is speculation.

Most people are saying only 3 bijuu chakra contain kkg.

- Naruto clearly showed that the chakra allowed him to use Son Goku Yoton.

- So by their logic, Sasuke combined 3 kkg with 6 other chakra.


All I see is people stating their opinion and not presenting any manga panels that can crush my point.

1. Yang release is not a KKG,

I never state/imply that.

(earth+water)+yang = Mokuton

Where was that written in the manga?

2. Sasuke can't use use KKG jutsu because he doesn't have the DNA to combine elements.

Dna isn't needed to combine elements.

- Obito crushed that theory when he combined more than 4 elements.


Do you mind explaining how mei can use 2 kkg?

3. bijuu chakra =/= absorbing KKG, the KKG can only be used if the chakra is sealed within the user

Link me to the chapter that said that.
 
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Where's the fanfic?



Taking the bijuu's chakra = taking their kekkei genkai.

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You're saying weird things again, what's the meaning it this time?




Are you blind?



This clearly shows how stupid you are.



They where still separate entities while in CT.




He used 5 separate elements but he never combined them.

Naruto meant his elemental ability, if it was just their chakra then naruto e would've just used it. He probably asked son to make it for him, only bijuu can control its element properties.
 
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Chakra=Chakra

Elements=Elements

The chakra has to be converted to the element/kkg. Anyone can give/take anyone's chakra. So if Haku gave Sakura or someone her chakra she could use ice style? is that what you're saying?
 

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Because Hagoromo who has a Rinnegan separate and create all 9 chakra bijuu's,

- Kurama clearly stated that he's doing the opposite of Hagoromo did with the bijuu's chakra.




Those are questions only kishi can answer.

- Why didn't nagato use any of the 6 elements that he mastered at ten?




You're a clever person for thinking only 3 of the 9 used kekkei genkai.

The juubi is the origin of all chakra, cnakra natures and KKG. Of course if hogoromo splits its chakra the bijuu will gain KKG, this is how other KKG appeared, it had nothing to do with his rinnegan but the chakra of the juubi that he distributed

Sasuke doing the opposite of hogormo just means he re-merged their chakra which obito and madara already did through the gedo mazo. Since sasuke didn't destroy the bijuu and they were still in existence(in one form or another), he never gained their individual abilities(he only got their raw chakra) because he didn't have their consent.

That's not the same, it was stated in the manga that nagato mastered six elements, meaning it isn't up for debate however sasuke having KKG of the bijuu is something that was never stated, so you can't compare the two.

I don't know if that was meant to be an insult or not, but you are gravely mistaken if you think there exists a nature transformation called ink release or maybe blue fire release Lol
 

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Naruto meant his elemental ability, if it was just their chakra then naruto e would've just used it. He probably asked son to make it for him, only bijuu can control its element properties.

Can you link me to the chapters that confirmed any of that?

The chakra has to be converted to the element/kkg. Anyone can give/take anyone's chakra. So if Haku gave Sakura or someone her chakra she could use ice style? is that what you're saying?

Why did naruto need Son Goku chakra?

Naruto meant his elemental ability, if it was just their chakra then naruto e would've just used it. He probably asked son to make it for him, only bijuu can control its element properties.

Wha...gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8 - ign

Chakra=Chakra

Elements=Elements

The chakra has to be converted to the element/kkg. Anyone can give/take anyone's chakra. So if Haku gave Sakura or someone her chakra she could use ice style? is that what you're saying?

The juubi is the origin of all chakra, cnakra natures and KKG. Of course if hogoromo splits its chakra the bijuu will gain KKG, this is how other KKG appeared, it had nothing to do with his rinnegan but the chakra of the juubi that he distributed

Bottom line, you're saying there was no kkg in the chakra's sasuke combined?

Sasuke doing the opposite of hogormo just means he re-merged their chakra which obito and madara already did through the gedo mazo.

Don't tell pointless lies.

- Madara and Obito did nothing like what Hagoromo and Sasuke did.

- You should accept that the mazo merging chakra and sasuke using his rinnegan to merge chskra are two different things.


Since sasuke didn't destroy the bijuu and they were still in existence(in one form or another), he never gained their individual abilities(he only got their raw chakra) because he didn't have their consent.

This is you pure speculating but let me indulge in it.

- What about when naruto used kurama chakra while still being in existence?

- What about naruto using kurama kkg?

- how can naruto use kurama bijuudama without turning into a tail beast like killer bee and the others?


it was stated in the manga that nagato mastered six elements, meaning it isn't up for debate however sasuke having KKG of the bijuu is something that was never stated, so you can't compare the two.

I never said he has their kkg.

- I said he merged their kkg chakra.


I don't know if that was meant to be an insult or not, but you are gravely mistaken if you think there exists a nature transformation called ink release or maybe blue fire release Lol

No, I wasn't trying to insult you.

- So because you know the correct name of 3 kkg and not the other 6, their not kkg?
 
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Can you link me to the chapters that confirmed any of that?



Why did naruto need Son Goku chakra?

There could be several reasons like the ones that have been mentioned. Son could've been doing the work but imo, without thinking about it at all. It was the chakras properties that allowed that realease. Naruto just utilised it.
 
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Can you link me to the chapters that confirmed any of that?



Why did naruto need Son Goku chakra?

It comes from those same pictures you're using. Naruto askes for their chakra and they give it to him, unlike normal chakra it cannot be created or molded by anyone except for the bijuu obviously. The reason being that there's a huge difference between normal chakra which every living being has and natural special abilities which was only showcased when naruto asked the bijuu for it, or when the bijuu themselves give it to the jinchuriki. Their nature proprieties are probably connected to their physical bodies hence why sasuke only used their chakra
 
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You need to learn the concept of kekkei genkai first before making a fail thread.
 

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It comes from those same pictures you're using. Naruto askes for their chakra and they give it to him, unlike normal chakra it cannot be created or molded by anyone except for the bijuu obviously. The reason being that there's a huge difference between normal chakra which every living being has and natural special abilities which was only showcased when naruto asked the bijuu for it, or when the bijuu themselves give it to the jinchuriki. Their nature proprieties are probably connected to their physical bodies hence why sasuke only used their chakra

This is you saying personal stuff and not anything that was actually stated.

- show me a proper scan and i'll delete the words from my original thread.


You need to learn the concept of kekkei genkai first before making a fail thread.

No problem, that's your opinion.
 

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This is you saying personal stuff and not anything that was actually stated.

- show me a proper scan and i'll delete the words from my original thread.




No problem, that's your opinion.

Nope. Actually it's you that don't know the difference between an element,KGG, and raw chakra Lol
 

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Bottom line, you're saying there was no kkg in the chakra's sasuke combined?

Don't tell pointless lies.

- Madara and Obito did nothing like what Hagoromo and Sasuke did.

- You should accept that the mazo merging chakra and sasuke using his rinnegan to merge chskra are two different things.


This is you pure speculating but let me indulge in it.

- What about when naruto used kurama chakra while still being in existence?

- What about naruto using kurama kkg?

- how can naruto use kurama bijuudama without turning into a tail beast like killer bee and the others?




I never said he has their kkg.

- I said he merged their kkg chakra.

No, I wasn't trying to insult you.

- So because you know the correct name of 3 kkg and not the other 6, their not kkg?

Looool. Ok let me begin

I never said there wasn't any KKG in the bijuu chakra, What I said was sasuke couldn't use said KKG

Lies?Lol Kurama even said that sasuke was using susanoo as a shell for the bijuu chakra like gedo mazo, it is the same thing. You are trying to make sasuke's feat bigger than what it is. It was an impressive feat don't get me wrong, but you are blowing it way out of proportion.

-Kurama was inside naruto so naruto used his chakra, your point?

- Kurama has no KKG, if you believe he does please show me a manga or DB scan showing his KKG. If you don't have one you are making stuff up or you don't understand what KKG mean.

- Naruto's transformation is unique, minato had the same thing. killer bee can still fire bijuu dama in V2, that's not bijuu mode.

Yes, the other bijuu techniques aren't KKG. Neither the DB nor the manga classifies them as such, therefore you can't just assume they are. I might as well say jiraya has oil release.
 

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Here Op, databook states exactly what I said Lol

sage Art: Super Bijū Rasenshuriken (仙法・超尾獣螺旋手裏剣, Senpō: Chō Bijū Rasenshuriken)

After being granted the power of the Sage of Six Paths, Naruto performed this ultimate technique. They're "Rasenshuriken" that have been proudly infused with the "special Chakra properties" (チャクラ特性, Chakura Tokusei) of the tailed beasts, which Naruto unleashes simultaneously through Multiple Shadow Clones. It also describes it as "the most marvelous Ninjutsu of all time." (空前絶後の忍術, Kūzenzetsugo no Ninjutsu).

↑ The caption says that it struck Kaguya's weak point, making it impossible for her to maintain her physical form. [Which is to say, it took advantage of her having the Chakra of the nine tailed beasts and turned it into a weakness.

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Now please delete this shitty thread and work on the next sasuke wank idea you come up with
 
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