Sasuke is the key to the future, but he is blind

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lost me at "Sasuke has matured". Naruto doesn't know as much about the past as Sasuke does, and he learned more from what he did manage to hear. That's why Naruto is the key and not Sasuke: Naruto's insight is far greater than Sasuke's to learn from other ppl's mistakes/failures.

Moreover, the best leaders make sacrifices for others. That's a concept that is completely foreign to Sasuke.
 

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Very well put together. I had a nice read, agreed. Naruto and Sasuke really need to make a compromise and learn how to cooperate for a better future.
 

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Great thread man. Naruto hasn't talked to the previous hokages so he's lacking in knowledge of how the villages were established so yes sasuke is more "qualified" to make judgements regarding the world order but like naruto, he is only selectively looking at what itachi said. He cannot possibly do things by himself.

Threads like these that show good analysis and no bias are very rare so good job
 

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Sasuke would be a much worse leader than Naruto. He also would not succeed at creating peace the way he intends to. I hope you understand why at this point, because it should be painfully obvious.

I never said he should be the leader, him and naruto should lead the future together I'd what I wrote
 

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lost me at "Sasuke has matured". Naruto doesn't know as much about the past as Sasuke does, and he learned more from what he did manage to hear. That's why Naruto is the key and not Sasuke: Naruto's insight is far greater than Sasuke's to learn from other ppl's mistakes/failures.

Moreover, the best leaders make sacrifices for others. That's a concept that is completely foreign to Sasuke.
You reading the manga or nah. That's exactly what sasuke said he'll do. Luke itachi he'll sacrifice his happiness and reputation to become a villain to unite the nations and shift all the hatred of the shinobi world onto him. How is this concept foreign Lol
 

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I never said he should be the leader, him and naruto should lead the future together I'd what I wrote

Sasuke isn't needed. At all. He contributes absolutely nothing to the establishment of peace.
 

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lost me at "Sasuke has matured". Naruto doesn't know as much about the past as Sasuke does, and he learned more from what he did manage to hear. That's why Naruto is the key and not Sasuke: Naruto's insight is far greater than Sasuke's to learn from other ppl's mistakes/failures.

Moreover, the best leaders make sacrifices for others. That's a concept that is completely foreign to Sasuke.

Naruto doesn't know as mush as sasuke. And sasuke literally stated that he is going to sacrifice himself when he was defining his definition of hakage
 

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Sasuke would be a much worse leader than Naruto. He also would not succeed at creating peace the way he intends to. I hope you understand why at this point, because it should be painfully obvious.

Did you read? He said Sasuke is blind and will fail without Naruto's help.
lost me at "Sasuke has matured". Naruto
doesn't know as much about the past as Sasuke does, and he learned more from what he did manage to hear. That's why Naruto is the key and not Sasuke: Naruto's insight is far greater than Sasuke's to learn from other ppl's mistakes/failures.

moreover, the best leaders make sacrifices for others. That's a concept that is completely foreign to Sasuke.

He clearly lost you at the first 3 words because clearly you didn't read or jist rejecting everything that came after.

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Did you read chapter 695? if so you didn't understand it.Sasuke wants to do what Itachi did except on a much larger scale.He's willing to to take on the world's hatred,Everyone's hatred so that they won't be fighting each other and live in peace.

that is self sacrafice,which he learned from Itachi.

Yup, its called criticism. Deal with it petty boy.

How is he the petty one? All you're doing is leaving troll responses while he has presented a intelligent analysis about Sasuke and Naruto The only thing you've dine is make troll counters about some Naruto Fan Sasuke Fan hate filled nonsense,that you seem fixated on.

you're the one who's being petty.

You reading the manga or nah. That's exactly what sasuke said he'll do. Luke itachi he'll sacrifice his happiness and reputation to become a villain to unite the nations and shift all the hatred of the shinobi world onto him. How is this concept foreign Lol


He is not reading what he sees is someone supporting Sasuke so he automatically ignores/rejects it.

He got 2 main pionts wrong.
-Sasuke maturing
-Sasuke knowing the meaning of Self Sacrifice

he says Self Sacrafice is a foreign concept to Sasuke yet Self Sacrafice is exactly what Sasuke wants to do,which he formed based on him learning about the history of the world and maturing.
 
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Did you read? He said Sasuke is blind and will fail without Naruto's help.

The thing is, Sasuke won't ever take Naruto's help. Or anyone's help. He thinks he has to save everyone from themselves, because he has no faith in anyone other than himself.

You....haven't been paying much attention... ._.

Tell me how Sasuke can influence the world positively in a way that Naruto would not be able to.
 

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Sasuke isn't needed. At all. He contributes absolutely nothing to the establishment of peace.

He contributes a lot actually. He is willing to sacrifice himself for the same people he doesn't care about so that they can live peacefully and everyone can hate him for everything dark in the world. Thus leading to people to cooperate against him. And if anyone true too disturb the peace he'll defend against them. Those where his words man plain and simple
 
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The thing is, Sasuke won't ever take Naruto's help. Or anyone's help. He thinks he has to save everyone from themselves, because he has no faith in anyone other than himself.



Tell me how Sasuke can influence the world positively in a way that Naruto would not be able to.
He sees the world in a different way than Naruto does. (In my opinion) Naruto would be best to bring peace and Sasuke would be best to prevent darkness because he knows more of it than Naruto does.
 
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He contributes a lot actually. He is willing to sacrifice himself for the same people he doesn't care about so that they can live peacefully and everyone can hate him for everything dark in the world. Thus leading to people to cooperate against him. And if anyone true too disturb the peace he'll defend against them. Those where his words man plain and simple

Sasuke just wants to bring his self-victimization full circle by being a martyr. It isn't necessary. Naruto can actually put an end to hatred.

He sees the world in a different way than Naruto does. (In my opinion) Naruto would be best to bring peace and Sasuke would be best to prevent it because he knows how more of it than Naruto does.

I think that means that he has nothing positive to contribute.
 
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Yup, its called criticism. Deal with it petty boy.

It's not criticism because you are trying to make it seem like if I win people over with this thread about Sasuke it would inflame a war between sasuke fans and naruto fans. That's just personal insight on something that you didn't even read so please just fall back dude.
 

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The thing is, Sasuke won't ever take Naruto's help. Or anyone's help. He thinks he has to save everyone from themselves, because he has no faith in anyone other than himself.



Tell me how Sasuke can influence the world positively in a way that Naruto would not be able to.

Why are you saying ever as if people can't change.Sasuke has already changed,and listened to others.He literally brought Orochimaru back so he could listen to others and gain knowledge from them.

Sasuke isn't needed. At all. He contributes absolutely nothing to the establishment of peace.

Okay,you obvoiusly don't understand the story or the thread.
 
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I would think you'd be able to insinuate what I meant within the context of my series of posts, but you weren't even able to do that.
 
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Lord Sasuke is the real bridge to peace.
 
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