Sasuke is a Jerk Sue

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Anyone who's not familiar with the term it's basicially a character who treats everyone like crap but is nevertheless sympathized with and treated with kindness by the other characters in-universe. Another notable trait about them is that they rarely, if ever get hit by karma for their actions. It's basically the Jerkass version of a Mary Sue. For more information go here:

Why I say this about Sasuke?:

1: He betrays and attempts to murder his own allies but all of them instantly forgive him and reward him with power-ups. Case in point, Jugo and Suigetsu who Sasuke left captive to the Gokage despite them going through life and death to save him several times, but no when they return they politely greet him and give him a scroll capable of releasing all of the Hokage from the Death Seal. Karin who he only used for her healing powers and disposed of the second Danzo got his hands on her can't stop fawning over him and forgives him like nothing ever happened after a half-assed insincere apology.

This also extends to his former teammates. Who he has no problem murdering to get more power. He laughs like a maniac at the thought of slaughtering a village full of innocent people, even when he decides to "help" the SA it's only because the current Big Bads plans conflict with his own equally depraved plan and makes it clear that he wont hesitate to let others die to win. But no Sakura who's pratically his own punching bag holds instantly forgives him to the point of being his baby momma and holds no ill will towards him even blushing and begging to come along with him on his journey. When she had every right to leave him armless and crippled at the Valley of the End. Karin, Suigetsu, Jugo and Orochimaru who have every right to let him die go out of their way fighting a giant buddha statue to save him.

2: The characters constantly sympathize with him when really his Freudian Excuse doesn't justify most of his actions. Even to the point where Kishi even states that oh an Uchiha's love is so strong that it makes them do unspeakable things, there not truly evil. In fact a large portion of Part 2 has been about the Uchiha backstory and trying to justify Sasuke's turn to evil. Hashirama politely sits down and talks to Sasuke when he says he's going to destroy Konoha despite almost killing Madara for attempting to do the same. Naruto, Sakura and Kakashi are constantly defending Sasuke's actions and refusing to kill him. When Tsunade, Jiraya and Hiruzen gave no sympathy to Orochimaru when he turned evil. Hiruzen fought his soul out [literally!] when Orochimaru attacked Konoha and only felt sorry about not killing him when he had the chance. Tsunade beat the shit out of Orochimaru when he tried to kill her, Jiraya and Naruto. Jiraya always treats Orochimaru like the sick twisted sociopath he is, rather than this sympathetic friend that he HAS to save like Naruto.

3: He becomes a complete Karma Houdini at the end. No jail time AND he's free to enter and exit the village whenever he wants. When if any other ninja even attempted to leave their village they would be labeled a criminal and a traitor. But Sasuke gets "special" treatment because he's good friends with the 6th and 7th Hokage.

4: Kishimoto even states that Sasuke isn't evil. Claiming that he's "pure". When last I checked people who aren't evil don't carry malicious intent towards others and actually care for people's lives.
 

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Didn't read. Subject kinda sounds like u r trying to beat a dead horse if u know what I mean. Naruto is over you should just come to grips with your grievances and let them go Lol
 

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Cool story bro sasuke is the best character in the manga be it a villain,anti hero or hero he is the one who keeps the story moving

sometimes I wonder who's really the main character.
 

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Didn't bother reading. Stopped at Mary Sue.
NB- Try and make ur butthurt at Sasuke more subtle
PS- Whatever helps you sleep at night dude
 

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Sasuke cared a lot about peoples lifes at the end. He was even ready to pretty much sacrifice his own life (being in the shadows without happiness) and everything he did he did for a reason. He always had his own goals and he was most of the time to soft to kill people. But in the end, have you ever heard of a revolution without bloodshed? Yeah, me neither. I think that he was most of the time pure and just passionate. We shouldn't dig too deep into the characters since almost everyone is messed up in the NV even Naruto himself, that damn stalker :snick: Anyway, I can understand why one would call him not pure, but he wasn't a complete jerk through the whole story and showed more than once that the lifes of others mean a lot to him. I just wanted to state that, no hate man :bye:
 

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That sounds like Sasuke, i agree.
 

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Didn't read. Subject kinda sounds like u r trying to beat a dead horse if u know what I mean. Naruto is over you should just come to grips with your grievances and let them go Lol

That still doesn't change the fact that in the end Sasuke got away with EVERYTHING he did. I'm frustrated with how Kishi wrote Sasuke's redemption. There's better ways to write a character like Sasuke without makin him seem like a Karma Houdini.
 

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lol, and of course Le Sauce fans are missing the entire point of the thread because Sasuke is their fav.

The OP is right. Had it been any other character would you guys sympathize with them? I thought not.

Just because Sasuke had a tragic past doesn't justify what he did. and instead of answering for his crimes, he got a free "get out of jail" card via the 6th Hokage.

It would have been better if Sasuke served at least some time in jail, then flash forward he is freed for the part he played in stopping Madara/Kaguya, and then redeem himself in the eyes of those he caused so much grief for.
 

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Its a Fictional Character, calm down
 

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Whole base is on a straight line except your dirty ass Lol gtfo bits
 

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A few details:

The analysis ignores Sasuke's power, strength, and intelligence, which tend to make him a leader and attract followers. Team Hebi/Taka respected Sasuke because he basically freed them from Oro's control.

The analysis also ignores that everyone BUT Naruto wanted to hunt Sasuke down and kill him. Just as Sasuke's character was extreme in his choice of action, so was Naruto's character extreme in his leniency/forgiveness.

Quite frankly, losing most of his arm disproves Karma Houdini.
 

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OP u do realize that the sole reason Sasuke got off so easy is Naruto himself right?
 

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I agree that sasuke is a bad written character. last arc proved that sasuke has 0 character development.

4 hokages and itachi TNJ'ed him but he still fought against naruto.
BZ told him the truth that uchiha were manipulated by him but sasuke still fought against naruto.

After losing against naruto and after losing a dominant arm, sasuke finally accepted his defeat and said that he always admired naruto

Dafuq is that?

Naruto came to bring him back all the time but he didn't listen and he is now agreeing with naruto? And he is now admiring that naruto always stand in front of him.

Sasuke is a ugliest character. outside NB, everyone hates him.only a few persons on NB wanks sasuke otherwise no one like him as a character.
 

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I agree that sasuke is a bad written character. last arc proved that sasuke has 0 character development.

4 hokages and itachi TNJ'ed him but he still fought against naruto.
BZ told him the truth that uchiha were manipulated by him but sasuke still fought against naruto.

After losing against naruto and after losing a dominant arm, sasuke finally accepted his defeat and said that he always admired naruto

Dafuq is that?

Naruto came to bring him back all the time but he didn't listen and he is now agreeing with naruto? And he is now admiring that naruto always stand in front of him.

Sasuke is a ugliest character. outside NB, everyone hates him.only a few persons on NB wanks sasuke otherwise no one like him as a character.

0/10 post

will never read again

no one is a well written character in the NV
 

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A few details:

The analysis ignores Sasuke's power, strength, and intelligence, which tend to make him a leader and attract followers. Team Hebi/Taka respected Sasuke because he basically freed them from Oro's control. So? That just makes him more of a Jerk Sue seeing as he rarely trains for those powers of his. He only freed them so he can use them, he treats them even worse than Orochimaru did so their undying loyality still isn't justified.

The analysis also ignores that everyone BUT Naruto wanted to hunt Sasuke down and kill him. Just as Sasuke's character was extreme in his choice of action, so was Naruto's character extreme in his leniency/forgiveness. Doesn't matter, in the end no one went through with it and ended up getting free access into the village whenever he pleased.

Quite frankly, losing most of his arm disproves Karma Houdini. No it's not Sakura healed him. He felt no pain from that lost arm, and probably got it replaced sometime after The Last.


Answer in bold.

OP u do realize that the sole reason Sasuke got off so easy is Naruto himself right?

That doesn't change anything.
 

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Sasuke is the best character on the planet. Your obviously a jerk who can't see it.
 

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Answer in bold.



That doesn't change anything.
Yes, it does. It proves that u think that Naruto's forgiveness is idiotic. Tbh, if it were in Sasuke's hands he would have either spent an eternity being hated if he beat Naruto or killed himself when he loss. Almost all of Sasuke's forgiveness comes from the ppl Naruto rubbed off on.
 

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Yes, it does. It proves that u think that Naruto's forgiveness is idiotic. Tbh, if it were in Sasuke's hands he would have either spent an eternity being hated if he beat Naruto or killed himself when he loss. Almost all of Sasuke's forgiveness comes from the ppl Naruto rubbed off on.

preach it bruh
 

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I agree, but its general uchiha swag.

Obito is coolest guy and hashirama will always love madara no matter what lol
 
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