Sasuke has acquired kamui+ (inter and intra-dimensional movement)

[BenjerminGaye]

Sasukes ameno is better than kamui.

based on...?

 

[LoZelda101]

there's 0 proof backing that.

K, let me know when itachi uses Perfect susanoo without EMS or rikudou chakra. thanks

 

[BenjerminGaye]

K, let me know when itachi uses Perfect susanoo without EMS or rikudou chakra. thanks

he's dead. -_-

 

[LoZelda101]

he's dead. -_-

There's no reason edo itachi wouldn't had used perfect susanoo. there is more evidence that more potent chakra = changes susanoo. so it's only logical that rikudou chakra enabled kakashi without ems to go perfect susanoo mode. and yes, EMS sasuke did say he felt itachi's power flowing through him which is likely more potency since the eye itself creates it's own chakra in the brain like what DMS kakashi and blind madara shown with their susanoo. if it's neither of those, then it's just another rikudou related plot hole. like infinite tsukuyomi effecting those without chakra.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

There's no reason edo itachi wouldn't had used perfect susanoo. there is more evidence that more potent chakra = changes susanoo. so it's only logical that rikudou chakra enabled kakashi without ems to go perfect susanoo mode. and yes, EMS sasuke did say he felt itachi's power flowing through him which is likely more potency since the eye itself creates it's own chakra in the brain like what DMS kakashi and blind madara shown with their susanoo. if it's neither of those, then it's just another rikudou related plot hole. like infinite tsukuyomi effecting those without chakra.

edo itachi was shown holding back the entire time he was edo and on top of that there's nothing that put his already abysmal reserves high enough to use Ps

 

[LoZelda101]

edo itachi was shown holding back the entire time he was edo and on top of that there's nothing that put his already abysmal reserves high enough to use Ps

I guess...idk anymore.

 

[Demonic.]

I guess...idk anymore.

Nah. You're right bro.

 

[Jiren]

Sasuke is so powerful.

 

[shelke]

This is basically advanced Kamui. Obito outright stated it that both jutsus are similar. That is all there is to it:

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Which is why he was able to resonate Kamui with it and open dimensions. All Sasuke doesn't have is the localized Kamui on the body itself, which is basically Intangibility.

 

[adeshina365]

This is basically advanced Kamui. Obito outright stated it that both jutsus are similar. That is all there is to it:

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Which is why he was able to resonate Kamui with it and open dimensions. All Sasuke doesn't have is the localized Kamui on the body itself, which is basically Intangibility.

Well put.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

This is basically advanced Kamui. Obito outright stated it that both jutsus are similar. That is all there is to it:

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Which is why he was able to resonate Kamui with it and open dimensions. All Sasuke doesn't have is the localized Kamui on the body itself, which is basically Intangibility.

its missing abilities, yet you still call it advanced.

 

[shelke]

its missing abilities, yet you still call it advanced.

What ability?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

What ability?

i already listed them check back in the thread. And you listed 1 too. So it makes no sense to call it and advanced version when it lacks multiple abilities of the original.

 

[shelke]

i already listed them check back in the thread. And you listed 1 too. So it makes no sense to call it and advanced version when it lacks multiple abilities of the original.

Intangibility is also Kamui. What are you talking about? Pocket dimension is replaced by cross-dimensional travel.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Intangibility is also Kamui. What are you talking about? Pocket dimension is replaced by cross-dimensional travel.

Intangibility
Pocket dimension isn't replaced by transdimensional travel seeing as how kamui can do both(and at a much lower chakra cost(if its just the pocket dimension)) with 0 cooldown effects.
Ninjutsu augmentation
Tool augmentation.
Inter dimensional travel
Intra dimensional travel


Sasuke only has two of those.

 

[adeshina365]

Intangibility
Pocket dimension isn't replaced by transdimensional travel seeing as how kamui can do both(and at a much lower chakra cost(if its just the pocket dimension)) with 0 cooldown effects.
Ninjutsu augmentation
Tool augmentation.
Inter dimensional travel
Intra dimensional travel


Sasuke only has two of those.

Why are you comparing travelling to Obito's pocket dimension vs. Kaguya's super far off dimensions? Sasuke's ability is more advanced because of the latter.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Why are you comparing travelling to Obito's pocket dimension vs. Kaguya's super far off dimensions? Sasuke's ability is more advanced because of the latter.

because those are the only dimensions sasuke has access to? And again obito has access to those as well.

Unless im mistaken.

Known dimensions:

Earth
Kaguya's 5
Obito's pocket

 

[shelke]

Intangibility
Pocket dimension isn't replaced by transdimensional travel seeing as how kamui can do both(and at a much lower chakra cost(if its just the pocket dimension)) with 0 cooldown effects.
Ninjutsu augmentation
Tool augmentation.
Inter dimensional travel
Intra dimensional travel

Sasuke only has two of those.

Double Kamui could only do cross-dimensional travel after resonating with Kaguya's dimension, Sage's Senjutsu and Sakura's chakra. Under normal circumstances, it doesn't. It never will. Not in a million years. So, your opinion that Kamui can do it on the fly is completely without merit.

Intangibility is Kamui on the body connected with an attack or its parts. That's it. It isn't a separate technique. What tool augmentation? So, Sasuke can do inter and cross dimensional travel. That makes his far more advanced.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Double Kamui could only do cross-dimensional travel after resonating with Kaguya's dimension, Sage's Senjutsu and Sakura's chakra. Under normal circumstances, it doesn't. It never will. Not in a million years. So, your opinion that Kamui can do it on the fly is completely without merit.

That isn't the point and the only reason sasuke can do it is via the immense reserves he got from hagoromo. I'm not playing the handout game, were merely comparing the two abilities and what they can do. Seeing as how it already happened that means it can be done with kamui. End of story.

Intangibility is Kamui on the body connected with an attack or its parts. That's it. It isn't a separate technique. What tool augmentation? So, Sasuke can do inter and cross dimensional travel. That makes his far more advanced.

None of the things i listed are separate techniques. What are you talking about? everything i listed falls under kamui. When its executed the only thing that said is kamui.
A kamui user with sufficient chakra can do everything i listed. Sasuke's eye cannot. Therefore its not as advanced.

 

[shelke]

That isn't the point and the only reason sasuke can do it is via the immense reserves he got from hagoromo. I'm not playing the handout game, were merely comparing the two abilities and what they can do. Seeing as how it already happened that means it can be done with kamui. End of story.

None of the things i listed are separate techniques. What are you talking about? everything i listed falls under kamui. When its executed the only thing that said is kamui.
A kamui user with sufficient chakra can do everything i listed. Sasuke's eye cannot. Therefore its not as advanced.

Its his Rinnegan's ability. Obito's Kamui has no such ability to cross dimensions. He could only do so after resonating with Kaguya's technique. After that, he required an enormous amount of chakra to do so. Without the first step, there is no cross dimensional travel.

Intangibility is Kamui. It's merely localized.