Sasuke has a point though...

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I understand where Sasuke is coming from (from an objective view) by wanting to rid the world of the Bijuus. We know that they can become, bitter, evil and stuck up...

Currently, they've warmed up to Naruto but there's no knowing whether they'll become evil again...
If you recall, they warmed up to Hagaromo but became evil afterwards...
It's very much possible that they can become evil again if you give it ebough time
Sasuke realises that this cycle will just continue... a cycle of hatred, so he wants to end it.

We've seen that warming up to the beasts hasn't worked in the past and even tecahing people ninshuu didn't work...

The bijuu's are the cause of most of hatred. They were one of the major causes for the outbreak of wars between nations and the cause of Naruto's and Sasuke's family's death.

They were the tool for Akatsuki...

Who's to say that one day, another Akatsuki is formed using the power of the Bijuu's if they turn to hatred again...

My conclusion is (from an objective view) that Sasuke's method of ending the hatred is just as valid as Naruto's (which has been proven to fail and history tends to repeat itself)

However, from a more personal view, I'd like to believe that Naruto is the boy from the prophecy who will bring about peace and break the curse of hatred...
I really want this to be true because Jiraiya and Nagato and Neji and many more died for this... and I don't want their deaths to be in vain.
But also, because I think finding a peaceful way to end conflict is a better way to end hatred and war...
But mainly because of Jiraiya's death....

 

[nightwolf888]

how can blame you the bijuu?, it's the villages that try to make their slaves , i know if i was forced to live inside as a slave tool i would be pissed

 

[BLAZE]

i disagree

 

[Kαmi]

how can blame you the bijuu?, it's the villages that try to make their slaves , i know if i was forced to live inside as a slave tool i would be pissed

He's not saying the Bijuus are the problem, it's the power the Bijuus possess. People have waged wars over the Bijuus before and all of them together brought a catastrophe. It's wrong that they would have to be sacrificed but the reasoning behind it is to prevent such circumstances from happening again.

OT: He has a point but he's not thinking everything through as well. He also doesn't have faith in the future (which you can't blame him considering the past) and isn't taking into account that this is the first time the world has ever been united in such a fashion. Both Naruto and Sasuke have good and bad points. As interested as I am of how the victor will be determined, I'm more interested in how their ideals will change after this fight.

 

[Gagster]

Biju are immortal so trying to destroy them is moot, and sealing them just makes them angrier.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Sasuke point is invalid infront of naruto

 

[nightwolf888]

so you saying that the bijuu should be the one to pay the price for man's sin committed against them, hell no, i know wound't, id fight back ,

 

[Kαmi]

so you saying that the bijuu should be the one to pay the price for man's sin committed against them, hell no, i know wound't, id fight back ,

Read the bold:

He's not saying the Bijuus are the problem, it's the power the Bijuus possess. People have waged wars over the Bijuus before and all of them together brought a catastrophe. It's wrong that they would have to be sacrificed but the reasoning behind it is to prevent such circumstances from happening again.

I said it was wrong, I was just explaining the reasoning behind it. I don't think the Bijuus should have to pay that price either.

 

[Honord Sage]

Sasuke is so stupid Tailed Beast are immortal best you can do is temporally seal them in a living host if you seal them in an inanimate object they will break out as they store their chakra reserves to the max thats way they keep sealing them over and over in new host.

 

[LogicnoJutsu]

how can blame you the bijuu?, it's the villages that try to make their slaves , i know if i was forced to live inside as a slave tool i would be pissed

Thats why he's killing the Kages too. Herp derp. No weapon of mass destruction. No corrupted leaders=Peace.

 

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how can blame you the bijuu?, it's the villages that try to make their slaves , i know if i was forced to live inside as a slave tool i would be pissed

Yeah, well of course we can question its legitimacy but what you're arguing can be applied to everyone... Why can't Sasuke go around killing everyone and causing Havoc because the Uchiha were cheated and used and hated for little legitimate reason... Because that's what the Bijuu are doing

I agree with what you say, but I think you should phrase it better

He's not saying the Bijuus are the problem, it's the power the Bijuus possess. People have waged wars over the Bijuus before and all of them together brought a catastrophe. It's wrong that they would have to be sacrificed but the reasoning behind it is to prevent such circumstances from happening again.

OT: He has a point but he's not thinking everything through as well. He also doesn't have faith in the future (which you can't blame him considering the past) and isn't taking into account that this is the first time the world has ever been united in such a fashion. Both Naruto and Sasuke have good and bad points. As interested as I am of how the victor will be determined, I'm more interested in how their ideals will change after this fight.

Yeah, that's basically what Sasuke believes.
Woah... do you really want Naruto's ideals to change? I mean, he is buying-in to the Will of Fire? Do you think the Will of Fire should change...

You got the analysis spot on, well done...

so you saying that the bijuu should be the one to pay the price for man's sin committed against them, hell no, i know wound't, id fight back ,

Should Sasuke pay the price for the bijuu's sin committed against him? It's a difficult question to answer... perhaps Jiraiya's ideals will prevail...

 

[nightwolf888]

no there is one way to to get remove the bijuu , the death god seal, it would be the only way

 

[nightwolf888]

Should Sasuke pay the price for the bijuu's sin committed against him? It's a difficult question to answer... perhaps Jiraiya's ideals will prevail...[/QUOTE]

what sins have the bijuu commited toward sasuke,hmm? none,

 

[Kαmi]

Yeah, that's basically what Sasuke believes.
Woah... do you really want Naruto's ideals to change? I mean, he is buying-in to the Will of Fire? Do you think the Will of Fire should change...

You got the analysis spot on, well done...

Thanks

And I want Naruto's to change to an extent. It's not the Will of Fire that should change, but him blindly believing that just the Will of Fire is the way out. Hashirama's Will was passed on yet this world still came to a disaster. The people of the past show that simply having faith will not be what brings great peace. Also, the system that the shinobi world lives in brought pain to others' lives, like Itachi and Obito. There has to be something else other than the Will of Fire and that's what Sasuke knows, but not Naruto. So that's why I think both of their ideals need some tweaking.

 

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Should Sasuke pay the price for the bijuu's sin committed against him? It's a difficult question to answer... perhaps Jiraiya's ideals will prevail...

what sins have the bijuu commited toward sasuke,hmm? none,[/QUOTE]

Remember, the attack on Konoha was blamed on the Uchiha's, that caused tension between the Uchiha's and Konoha... the tension bulit until a point where the Uchiha's attempted a coup... from there, the whole Itachi story plays out...

Basically, once Obito stopped controlling Kurama, if Kurama had decided to stop attacking the village, Minato wouldn't have had to die and he could explain to everyone that is wasn't the known non-defected Uchiha's that had caused the attack....

 

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Thanks

And I want Naruto's to change to an extent. It's not the Will of Fire that should change, but him blindly believing that just the Will of Fire is the way out. Hashirama's Will was passed on yet this world still came to a disaster. The people of the past show that simply having faith will not be what brings great peace. Also, the system that the shinobi world lives in brought pain to others' lives, like Itachi and Obito. There has to be something else other than the Will of Fire and that's what Sasuke knows, but not Naruto. So that's why I think both of their ideals need some tweaking.

Oh, okay, that makes sense... I hope that happens too...

 

[nightwolf888]

what sins have the bijuu commited toward sasuke,hmm? none,

Remember, the attack on Konoha was blamed on the Uchiha's, that caused tension between the Uchiha's and Konoha... the tension bulit until a point where the Uchiha's attempted a coup... from there, the whole Itachi story plays out...

Basically, once Obito stopped controlling Kurama, if Kurama had decided to stop attacking the village, Minato wouldn't have had to die and he could explain to everyone that is wasn't the known non-defected Uchiha's that had caused the attack....[/QUOTE]

no , it's not kurama faught, that's the village and danzos faught, kurama was already the leafs enemy before the attack, he's not going to stop just because genjustsu is lifted, if he would have stoped he would be placed back his prison , even though he was sealed again by minato