sasuke fans should be crying

[sexywave]

not proof of anything alot of other the other to ninja fights where they almost died, naruto mostly in his fights bty talking them gaara and pein and watch as obito is the next talk no jutsu if it were not f.or itachi edo pein would have. capture .naruto in .he have only sage mode left but wait the alliance will be gone sence it needed kyubi chakra to link with everyone in order teleport them out of the way . naruto maybe strong but its thank to kyubi he this powerful. and he been saved just like sasuke.

 

[Mr Hiru]

not proof of anything alot of other the other to ninja fights where they almost died, naruto mostly in his fights bty talking them gaara and pein and watch as obito is the next talk no jutsu if it were not f.or itachi edo pein would have. capture .naruto in .he have only sage mode left but wait the alliance will be gone sence it needed kyubi chakra to link with everyone in order teleport them out of the way . naruto maybe strong but its thank to kyubi he this powerful. and he been saved just like sasuke.

You understimate him. Well, that's your opinion, and I respect it, but it is too much conjeture and no proof at all, as your first words states in your little wall of text.

 

[sexywave]

on to the next one.

 

[KayaUzumaki]

Into the fray I suppose. To be honest, I also see Sasuke's new version of Susanoo as a hand out. You cannot deny that if Sasuke gets any sort of Senjutsu then it is a freebie since his chakra reserves are not quite as plentiful as Naruto's. It's the whole claiming to be the next Hokage thing all over again. Naruto is an Uzumaki which entitles him to vast chakra reserves ASIDE from Kurama.

Now, I will admit that having Kurama has become one of the greatest gifts that could have been given to Naruto. However, what the OP has stated in the thread about Kurama originally hindering Naruto is true. Remember how Naruto has poor chakra control? Well it has been pointed out by Jiraiya that it was due to the Nine Tails. While Kurama's chakra and Naruto's chakra could be mixed, it was an unstable mixture which resulted in Naruto's poor chakra control. Add to that the fact that Naruto had no parents to teach him jutsu and you end up with a hard working individual who has struggled for every "freebie" he has ever gotten.

Let's refer back to Sage Mode itself. Naruto, unlike Jiraiya, could not fuse with Ma and Pa Toad because of Kurama. Kurama even admitted that he kept Naruto from fusing with them. Thus, Naruto had to go through the extreme rigors of Sage Mode training in order to get to where he is at while Sasuke is literally given the ability by Juugo and (originally) Orochimaru. The fact that Naruto has a new power-up that uses SM is irrelevant due to Naruto's new found friendship with Kurama.

Now, how about we discuss KCM and EMS? KCM was a hard fight for Naruto. He had to fight Kurama in order to split him from his chakra. It was later explained that Kurama had replenished his chakra by STEALING from Naruto's chakra reserves. That lends to Naruto's heritage because Gyuki said that Naruto should by all rights be dead if he weren't an Uzumaki. Kakashi has referenced as much throughout the series as well, but that's a different point...back to KCM. Yes, it's true that Naruto would not have gotten the power up if he hadn't been helped by his mother to some extent. BUT, the point here is that he still had to fight for the chakra and then had to prove his worth to Kurama in order to get BM. Sasuke on the other hand was essentially handed his EMS powers. Itachi LET himself be killed by Sasuke. I'm sure we can all agree that if Itachi had been at full power then he would have defeated Sasuke, maybe not have killed him but definitely would have beat him. Everything Itachi did was so that Sasuke would become powerful to protect the clan's reputation as well as Konoha. Orochimaru bolstered this to an extent by giving Sasuke the curse mark. Everything about Sasuke's powers screams hand out. Naruto may have one freebie, and I do emphasize MAY HAVE, but every other power up and technique was gained through hard work and proving himself.

 

[Almighty Ra]

Yeah, last chapter only proves that Sasuke relies on sugar daddies to get powerups.

Zero effort = lot of power. Easy money, as prostitutes... yes, that's Sasuke.

Kishimoto ruined his character, again.

I hate to agree but i must..Most of the post I have read in Sasuke's defense haven't mentioned how Sasuke has gained all his powers..Off the juice of someone else but want to point out that Naruto has gotten hand outs..Yet he was chosen to be Kurama's host not by his own doing....Yet Sasuke craved for more power from the start..Orochimaru, Jugo, Obito (as far as Itachi's eyes) have been Sasuke's battery packs..So before using words like hypocrisy look at the facts

 

[Mr Hiru]

Into the fray I suppose. To be honest, I also see Sasuke's new version of Susanoo as a hand out. You cannot deny that if Sasuke gets any sort of Senjutsu then it is a freebie since his chakra reserves are not quite as plentiful as Naruto's. It's the whole claiming to be the next Hokage thing all over again. Naruto is an Uzumaki which entitles him to vast chakra reserves ASIDE from Kurama.

Now, I will admit that having Kurama has become one of the greatest gifts that could have been given to Naruto. However, what the OP has stated in the thread about Kurama originally hindering Naruto is true. Remember how Naruto has poor chakra control? Well it has been pointed out by Jiraiya that it was due to the Nine Tails. While Kurama's chakra and Naruto's chakra could be mixed, it was an unstable mixture which resulted in Naruto's poor chakra control. Add to that the fact that Naruto had no parents to teach him jutsu and you end up with a hard working individual who has struggled for every "freebie" he has ever gotten.

Let's refer back to Sage Mode itself. Naruto, unlike Jiraiya, could not fuse with Ma and Pa Toad because of Kurama. Kurama even admitted that he kept Naruto from fusing with them. Thus, Naruto had to go through the extreme rigors of Sage Mode training in order to get to where he is at while Sasuke is literally given the ability by Juugo and (originally) Orochimaru. The fact that Naruto has a new power-up that uses SM is irrelevant due to Naruto's new found friendship with Kurama.

Now, how about we discuss KCM and EMS? KCM was a hard fight for Naruto. He had to fight Kurama in order to split him from his chakra. It was later explained that Kurama had replenished his chakra by STEALING from Naruto's chakra reserves. That lends to Naruto's heritage because Gyuki said that Naruto should by all rights be dead if he weren't an Uzumaki. Kakashi has referenced as much throughout the series as well, but that's a different point...back to KCM. Yes, it's true that Naruto would not have gotten the power up if he hadn't been helped by his mother to some extent. BUT, the point here is that he still had to fight for the chakra and then had to prove his worth to Kurama in order to get BM. Sasuke on the other hand was essentially handed his EMS powers. Itachi LET himself be killed by Sasuke. I'm sure we can all agree that if Itachi had been at full power then he would have defeated Sasuke, maybe not have killed him but definitely would have beat him. Everything Itachi did was so that Sasuke would become powerful to protect the clan's reputation as well as Konoha. Orochimaru bolstered this to an extent by giving Sasuke the curse mark. Everything about Sasuke's powers screams hand out. Naruto may have one freebie, and I do emphasize MAY HAVE, but every other power up and technique was gained through hard work and proving himself.

My respects for the voice of reason.

 

[Almighty Ra]

Into the fray I suppose. To be honest, I also see Sasuke's new version of Susanoo as a hand out. You cannot deny that if Sasuke gets any sort of Senjutsu then it is a freebie since his chakra reserves are not quite as plentiful as Naruto's. It's the whole claiming to be the next Hokage thing all over again. Naruto is an Uzumaki which entitles him to vast chakra reserves ASIDE from Kurama.

Now, I will admit that having Kurama has become one of the greatest gifts that could have been given to Naruto. However, what the OP has stated in the thread about Kurama originally hindering Naruto is true. Remember how Naruto has poor chakra control? Well it has been pointed out by Jiraiya that it was due to the Nine Tails. While Kurama's chakra and Naruto's chakra could be mixed, it was an unstable mixture which resulted in Naruto's poor chakra control. Add to that the fact that Naruto had no parents to teach him jutsu and you end up with a hard working individual who has struggled for every "freebie" he has ever gotten.

Let's refer back to Sage Mode itself. Naruto, unlike Jiraiya, could not fuse with Ma and Pa Toad because of Kurama. Kurama even admitted that he kept Naruto from fusing with them. Thus, Naruto had to go through the extreme rigors of Sage Mode training in order to get to where he is at while Sasuke is literally given the ability by Juugo and (originally) Orochimaru. The fact that Naruto has a new power-up that uses SM is irrelevant due to Naruto's new found friendship with Kurama.

Now, how about we discuss KCM and EMS? KCM was a hard fight for Naruto. He had to fight Kurama in order to split him from his chakra. It was later explained that Kurama had replenished his chakra by STEALING from Naruto's chakra reserves. That lends to Naruto's heritage because Gyuki said that Naruto should by all rights be dead if he weren't an Uzumaki. Kakashi has referenced as much throughout the series as well, but that's a different point...back to KCM. Yes, it's true that Naruto would not have gotten the power up if he hadn't been helped by his mother to some extent. BUT, the point here is that he still had to fight for the chakra and then had to prove his worth to Kurama in order to get BM. Sasuke on the other hand was essentially handed his EMS powers. Itachi LET himself be killed by Sasuke. I'm sure we can all agree that if Itachi had been at full power then he would have defeated Sasuke, maybe not have killed him but definitely would have beat him. Everything Itachi did was so that Sasuke would become powerful to protect the clan's reputation as well as Konoha. Orochimaru bolstered this to an extent by giving Sasuke the curse mark. Everything about Sasuke's powers screams hand out. Naruto may have one freebie, and I do emphasize MAY HAVE, but every other power up and technique was gained through hard work and proving himself.

Plus rep for pointing out actual Manga facts it's not a theory but printed in black...

 

[warpathixclan]

Into the fray I suppose. To be honest, I also see Sasuke's new version of Susanoo as a hand out. You cannot deny that if Sasuke gets any sort of Senjutsu then it is a freebie since his chakra reserves are not quite as plentiful as Naruto's. It's the whole claiming to be the next Hokage thing all over again. Naruto is an Uzumaki which entitles him to vast chakra reserves ASIDE from Kurama.

Now, I will admit that having Kurama has become one of the greatest gifts that could have been given to Naruto. However, what the OP has stated in the thread about Kurama originally hindering Naruto is true. Remember how Naruto has poor chakra control? Well it has been pointed out by Jiraiya that it was due to the Nine Tails. While Kurama's chakra and Naruto's chakra could be mixed, it was an unstable mixture which resulted in Naruto's poor chakra control. Add to that the fact that Naruto had no parents to teach him jutsu and you end up with a hard working individual who has struggled for every "freebie" he has ever gotten.

Let's refer back to Sage Mode itself. Naruto, unlike Jiraiya, could not fuse with Ma and Pa Toad because of Kurama. Kurama even admitted that he kept Naruto from fusing with them. Thus, Naruto had to go through the extreme rigors of Sage Mode training in order to get to where he is at while Sasuke is literally given the ability by Juugo and (originally) Orochimaru. The fact that Naruto has a new power-up that uses SM is irrelevant due to Naruto's new found friendship with Kurama.

Now, how about we discuss KCM and EMS? KCM was a hard fight for Naruto. He had to fight Kurama in order to split him from his chakra. It was later explained that Kurama had replenished his chakra by STEALING from Naruto's chakra reserves. That lends to Naruto's heritage because Gyuki said that Naruto should by all rights be dead if he weren't an Uzumaki. Kakashi has referenced as much throughout the series as well, but that's a different point...back to KCM. Yes, it's true that Naruto would not have gotten the power up if he hadn't been helped by his mother to some extent. BUT, the point here is that he still had to fight for the chakra and then had to prove his worth to Kurama in order to get BM. Sasuke on the other hand was essentially handed his EMS powers. Itachi LET himself be killed by Sasuke. I'm sure we can all agree that if Itachi had been at full power then he would have defeated Sasuke, maybe not have killed him but definitely would have beat him. Everything Itachi did was so that Sasuke would become powerful to protect the clan's reputation as well as Konoha. Orochimaru bolstered this to an extent by giving Sasuke the curse mark. Everything about Sasuke's powers screams hand out. Naruto may have one freebie, and I do emphasize MAY HAVE, but every other power up and technique was gained through hard work and proving himself.

well said. I find it funny that the sasuke fanboys leave and have no response to reason, and i get two neg rep saying that naruto is fodder without kurama.. lol

 

[Reidara]

Both Naruto and Sasuke are being handed stuff. Sasuke's senjutsu Susano'o was an ass-pull, Naruto's bijuu mode the same thing. He released Kurama, why didn't he just have regular mode like Killer Bee? It's all for the 'awesomeness' of the show. What's stupid is Tobirama comparing Naruto and Sasuke with Hashirama and Madara. Those two did everything on their own (except for Madara yanking his brother's eyes). There are so many of these flaws but it doesn't matter shit because we all love to read/watch.

 

[Honord Sage]

And no where does it state that it's thanks to Kurama's chakra that sasuke can do this.

Look at the Manga Naruto put chakra cloak on both Sasuke and Jugo its a fact Naruto even told them to get their but over to Him to get it You can't argue against it happen.

 

[Uchiha Marshmallow]

I have no idea why people try to rant on about how a fictional character is getting fiction power ups without trying, to compete with another fictional character who also gets fictional powerups.
PS. Naruto has been relying on Kurama for most of the series.

 

[-ahhimane-]

I agree with you bro.
Also FOR SASUKE FANBOYS
Naruto without Kurama means Naruto learning and mastering the Uzumaki and Namikaze jutsus.
In short, Naruto > Sasuke in Part 1
Kishi made Naruto a spoiled brat by giving him an uncontrolled Kyuubi and killing off his parents.
If Kurama was in control of Naruto, he would have chopped Sasuke's legs nicely and would have dragged him to Konoha back. Sasuke would be forever on Wheelchair XD

Due to Kurama's chakra, Sasuke's powers ARE enhanced
Want a Proof?
Here...

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

AND FINALLY...

You must be registered for see images

It's not like Sasuke can't do it.
But instead he can't do it AT THAT SCALE RIGHT NOW WITHOUT KURAMA/NARUTO'S CHAKRA.
Also thanks to Juugo, he's able to use Juugo's Sage mode to fight back Obito.
Without Susano'o enhanced by Naruto's chakra and Juugo's Sage mode, Sasuke would be same like the teamed up Gokages who were beaten to pulp by Madara. Also Juubito would have done the same to them.

 

[KisuneUchiha]

Why are sasuke fans happy that he got a curse seal powerup... the only reason why he could so casualy grab some jugo sage shit is because he has the kyubi chakra. If you remember how sage mode works, it makes sense since kishi makes all sasukes accomplishments due to someone handing him something oro, itachi, naruto, jugoo.

Actually if you look closely at Sasuke you will notice one one little thing.... the Kyubi chakra is gone for some reason..