Sasuke EMS PS Debunked

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Wow i am a dumbass.

I am still waiting for you to show me a manga panel of that fight

Ok Ima use your logic. When it came time to showcase the highly anticipated historical fight between the legends Hashirama Senju and Madara Uchiha, the anime directors unanimously decided that they were going to deviate from the source material and randomly give Madara a perfect susanoo just because

Got it.

 

[shelke]

Now let's wait for OP to get that manga scan.

 

[SumnNarutoRelated]

Lmao My brain cell r like

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Brain cell? Don't u mean cells?

How many do u have?

Just one?

 

[KesOnFire]

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He says its filler but it still happened like it or not lmfaoooo

 

[BLAZE]

Well on serious Note wasn't this argument Shatted doewn already

Yes. He did. Anyone who can read the Manga knows that he did.

1. Madara had PS w/ EMS.

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Tsunade is amazed that Hashirama fought this thing. Onoki asks why Madara held back. (held PS back) Madara says that adults don't beat up kids w/ their full power, confirming that he had PS back then. Confirming that he used it on Hashirama.

2. Madara

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-Same Mountain Cutting abilities.

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-Same Swords, shoulder guards, tengu nose, and diamond as the regular PS.

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Now we have Sasuke's PS on Kurama.

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Too similar to PS for anyone to logically say that it's not PS, but some other version of Susanoo that looks nothing like what's in the pic.

3. Sasuke states he's doing what Madara did in the past.

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-Hashirama's reaction confirms that he is.

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Sasuke has PS and it's a Manga Fact.

and too add Databbok :sdo:

Majestic Attire: Susanoo (威装・須佐能乎, Isō: Susanoo)

Heading: Turbulent God, dressed into the gold impregnable armor (likely some kind of mythological armor)!

Classification: Ninjutsu/Kekkei Genkai
Rank: No Rank
Class: Supplementary
Range: Short-Range

User(s): Uchiha Madara, Uchiha Sasuke

This technique is Nine Tails, sheathed (armored) in clad Susanoo armor. Gallantly using weapons that Susanoo carry in its front paws (hands) ,just like the fangs of the predator...!! It also combines the absolute defense and attack power of the Susanoo and Nine Tails, this technique allows the user perfectly utilize different abilities of both.

→ Defense, that had been invented by Uchiha Madara's Dōjutsu against Hashirama.

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same weapons

Brain cell? Don't u mean cells?

How many do u have?

Just one?

More than you for sure who uses non canon anime feats to prove his point :sdo:

 

[The Necromancer]

Since when do we take the Anime's word?

KidGamer is right. ^

 

[VongolaX]

I see what you're saying but here's the thing.....

Hashirama as a child, was spanking adults at the time as was Madara. These two kids were probably on jonin levels at that age considering Kakashi made jonin at a similar age also. Ifnkakashi who's not even a prodigy in any sense, can make jonin at a young age, then Madara and Hashirama during war time especially probably exceeded it. They were special.

Here's the thing. The adults madara and hashirama fought as a kid were all no-ranked adults that weren't even on par with a genin.
Realistically, look how many adults took out just one kid:

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Those adults commonly fought with just ninja tools, they weren't strategically trained in the use of ninjustus, taijustu, and genjustu like the current system today.

It's like comparing a common thugs to a bunch of military trained experts.

Sasuke's opponents would be able to take out mountains of low-level adults in madara/hashirama's childhood time.

You see where I'm coming from?

Some one like 3 tomoe kid itachi would solo all those non trained clansmen if he was in kid madara or kid hashirama's position.

Hashirama was way stronger than Naruto was at the same age. It has nothing to do with the fact they used swords, ninjutsu, genjutsu and the like were just as prevalent at that time if not even more prevalent.

Not really no, Hashirama didn't have SS or wood golem/dragon with him as a kid.
The kyuubi would run havoc and kill those kids, but that's besides the point.

Back then basic ninjustu, genjustu, and taijustu were not much in use. Even Hashirama was rivaling Madara on how to create a super power genjustu-ninjustu. The creation of a systematic ninja fighting style was created during the birth of each village and shinobi system. Back then it was just kenjustu and kekkai genkai.

As far as the kyuubi in susanno armor is concerned, one can only conclude that the power of the kyuubi made the susanoo go PS and look like that, much how the power of the rinnegan gave Sasuke the ability to use the PS.

I don't think naruto's kyuubi cloak advanced Sasuke Susanoo to magic garb, not saying that it is impossible but it was stated in the manga that he did so I'm not to keen on that perspective. Especially when someone pointed out that nariuto was suprised of the Susanoo's transformation.

 

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As far as the kyuubi in susanno armor is concerned, one can only conclude that the power of the kyuubi made the susanoo go PS and look like that

Majestic Attire: Susanoo (威装・須佐能乎, Isō: Susanoo)

Heading: Turbulent God, dressed into the gold impregnable armor (likely some kind of mythological armor)!

Classification: Ninjutsu/Kekkei Genkai
Rank: No Rank
Class: Supplementary
Range: Short-Range

User(s): Uchiha Madara, Uchiha Sasuke

This technique is Nine Tails, sheathed (armored) in clad Susanoo armor. Gallantly using weapons that Susanoo carry in its front paws (hands) ,just like the fangs of the predator...!! It also combines the absolute defense and attack power of the Susanoo and Nine Tails, this technique allows the user perfectly utilize different abilities of both.

→ Defense, that had been invented by Uchiha Madara's Dōjutsu against Hashirama.

@bold :lol

 

[Pukkake Pokayo]

PS @ EMS may be Madara's ability. Rather than his own MS abilities. Just a suggestion.

Not that I care in the slightest. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[juzumaki]

Okay, I get what you mean but hear me out on this one please.

Madara fought adults and was a very skilled ninja no doubt, but can we compare those same characters to Sasuke as a kid?

Sasuke grew up in a shinobi system where they are assigned ranks to fight people with actual ninjustu, taijustu, and genjustu skills.
Not grown ups with swords.

Now Sasuke trained underneath the godly shinobi itachi, right?

He fought chuunin mist shinobis, Haku, Zabuza, orochimaru, gaara, naruto, jugo, kages, itachi, and dsm kabuto while stil being a child.
Now the only significant people madara fought at that age was hashirama (which is honestly no different from naruto) and oonoki with the second tschuikage.

So wouldn't that make Sasuke's battle experience greater than Madara's?

I also find this picture very interesting too. This is EMS Madara with the kyuubi and EMS Sasuke with BM naruto:

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Their Susanoo looks exactly the same to me.

What do you think?

thats not perfect susanoo thats called majestic garb susanoo in the data book

 

[-immortal-]

Ok Ima use your logic. When it came time to showcase the highly anticipated historical fight between the legends Hashirama Senju and Madara Uchiha, the anime directors unanimously decided that they were going to deviate from the source material and randomly give Madara a perfect susanoo just because

Got it.

Still waiting for a panel of madara using PS when he was alive without the kyubi? You are a big boy right talkin all shit?

 

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thats not perfect susanoo thats called majestic garb susanoo in the data book

Which further says its PS over Kurama created when Madara was fighting Hashirama :sdo:

Still waiting for a panel of madara using PS when he was alive without the kyubi? You are a big boy right talkin all shit?

Won't be surprised if dat guy pulls another filler feat :lol

 

[-immortal-]

Which further says its PS over Kurama created when Madara was fighting Hashirama :sdo:



Won't be surprised if dat guy pulls another filler feat :lol

Thats probabl what he will do :lol

 

[King Of Pop]

thread gave me cancer real quick

thats not perfect susanoo thats called majestic garb susanoo in the data book

smh thats ps being armoured unto kyuubi. no other soosano has such features

 

[shelke]

thats not perfect susanoo thats called majestic garb susanoo in the data book

No Susano'o has a tengu nose other than PS.

 

[Styles]

If u can show me where Sasuke used PS with EMS without the help of the kyuubi I'll be more than happy to concede.

I don't get it, we keep getting all this evidence that Sasuke needs The Rinnegan to use PS yet you fkboys keep denying it.

I'm not writing the damn show I'm reading and watching it just like everyone else.

Evidence:

- no stand alone PS susanno with EMS ( this means EMS can't do it for him)

- first time showing PS like features he was connected to the Kyuubi (this means he needed a power up to access PS)

- first time we see PS he has a Rinnegan and RS power (this means he needed a powerup)

- in today's episode, he said he created his susanoo with "this eye" (it came right from the *****s lips)

Like wtf else u need?

Madara and Sasuke both used PS to cover kurama. People like you say Sasuke don't have PS yet Madara do despite doing the same as Sasuke. Edo Madara was the first to show standing PS. I guess edo Madara needed Rinnegan for PS?

 

[Megatolium]

Madara used a unstable version of his "Perfect Susanoo" when fighting against Hashirama.

Btw, Susanoo is an ability of the Sharingan, not the Rinnegan.

 

[V h o]

Like wow, using anime as evidence smh

 

[Apêx1]

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[Shruikan]

Since when are filler scenes canon?