sasuke EMS or only MS?

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hey people well here it is i was just surfing throw the sasuke raikage fight and i saw this


he says the double mangekyu? he only posseses one and the other one must be itachis but look here


he sais that he wont transplant them into him
wtf is going on? does he or does he not have itachis eyes as well?
sorry to lazy to actually make them in IMG type
 

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...we went over this when that chapter came out. It means you need two mangekyo sharingan to use sussano. in other words kakashi can't use it. he doesn't have ems.
 
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can u people be more dumb O_________________O its a simple question start answering!!!!
u guys are idiots thats for sure >_>
This section isn't that active :rolleyes:

It's like Squiremarcus said. Kakashi would have 1 MS because he only has one sharingan eye but Sasuke has 2 Sharingan eyes with both having MS. It's the requirement for Susanoo which he was pointing out. Sasuke doesn't have ems yet but I can see the confusion in that panel.
 

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This section isn't that active :rolleyes:

It's like Squiremarcus said. Kakashi would have 1 MS because he only has one sharingan eye but Sasuke has 2 Sharingan eyes with both having MS. It's the requirement for Susanoo which he was pointing out. Sasuke doesn't have ems yet but I can see the confusion in that panel.
...we went over this when that chapter came out. It means you need two mangekyo sharingan to use sussano. in other words kakashi can't use it. he doesn't have ems.
The only thing I don't understand about that. Kakashi has one MS because he has only one Uchiha eye of course. But what's so special about Sasukes "double MS" to an Uchiha
who has both sharingan eyes. It's like saying when you activate the sharingan you have the "double sharingan." Quite frankly, it sounds dumb for him to just say that he has sharingan in both eyes, I mean, obvious much? o_O
 

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The only thing I don't understand about that. Kakashi has one MS because he has only one Uchiha eye of course. But what's so special about Sasukes "double MS" to an Uchiha
who has both sharingan eyes. It's like saying when you activate the sharingan you have the "double sharingan." Quite frankly, it sounds dumb for him to just say that he has sharingan in both eyes, I mean, obvious much? o_O
Pretty much. It's just Kishi's way of telling us that Kakashi is never going to get a version of Susanoo and I guess he wanted to be more specific on Susanoo's requirements. It's kind of like when Deva Pain was explaining to the other pains the invasion plan when he's pretty much just talking to himself. Looks unusual the way the information is presented to us.
 

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The only thing I don't understand about that. Kakashi has one MS because he has only one Uchiha eye of course. But what's so special about Sasukes "double MS" to an Uchiha
who has both sharingan eyes. It's like saying when you activate the sharingan you have the "double sharingan." Quite frankly, it sounds dumb for him to just say that he has sharingan in both eyes, I mean, obvious much? o_O
I know what you mean and I thought the same, however don't forget they can always loose an eye. So even as an Uchiha you still would need both your eyes.
 

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The only thing I don't understand about that. Kakashi has one MS because he has only one Uchiha eye of course. But what's so special about Sasukes "double MS" to an Uchiha
who has both sharingan eyes. It's like saying when you activate the sharingan you have the "double sharingan." Quite frankly, it sounds dumb for him to just say that he has sharingan in both eyes, I mean, obvious much? o_O
thats the same of what i thought when i read the upper posts

still saying u have 2 eyes is dumb even with the thing caliburn pointed out its like saying hey i have 2 legs,2 arms,2 ears,1 peni$ rofl xD it doesnt make sence even if kishi wanted to give us information hes failing in expressing it the right way he could of used the 2 eyes of the MS but hes using the double mangekyu and lets not forget that sussano was strong with itachi and he became sooooo much stronger with sasuke he even has muscle tissue while he didnt have them in itachis control and he can just appear as parts and not hole and sasuke doesnt just use amatesaru he manipulates it with his will
 

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thats the same of what i thought when i read the upper posts

still saying u have 2 eyes is dumb even with the thing caliburn pointed out its like saying hey i have 2 legs,2 arms,2 ears,1 peni$ rofl xD it doesnt make sence even if kishi wanted to give us information hes failing in expressing it the right way he could of used the 2 eyes of the MS but hes using the double mangekyu and lets not forget that sussano was strong with itachi and he became sooooo much stronger with sasuke he even has muscle tissue while he didnt have them in itachis control and he can just appear as parts and not hole and sasuke doesnt just use amatesaru he manipulates it with his will
Each eye has its own technique and when you have both eyes you can use 3rd one,thats what you need to know about the MS :p
 

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@ Caliburn and Valkyria: I see what you guys are saying. But really, that's gotta be the dumbest thing Kishi's ever done. I don't think Kishi would say something like that just to get at something obvious, especially considering all of the drama that went with it.

thats the same of what i thought when i read the upper posts

still saying u have 2 eyes is dumb even with the thing caliburn pointed out its like saying hey i have 2 legs,2 arms,2 ears,1 peni$ rofl xD it doesnt make sence even if kishi wanted to give us information hes failing in expressing it the right way he could of used the 2 eyes of the MS but hes using the double mangekyu and lets not forget that sussano was strong with itachi and he became sooooo much stronger with sasuke he even has muscle tissue while he didnt have them in itachis control and he can just appear as parts and not hole and sasuke doesnt just use amatesaru he manipulates it with his will
Exactly, which leads to my opinion that he has the EMS. The way I see it, every MS has had three points. Itach's first one looked like a three sided shuriken, Kakashi's has three points, Madara's has the three bars, and Izuna's had the three circles (or it could be vice versa with Izuna and Madra, not quite sure). But notice that when Madara got his EMS it had six points (Izuna's three circles and his three bars) and so does Sasuke's, they both have six points. So by double mangekyou, can he mean that only those with with second stage of the MS which seems to double the amount of tomoes in each eyes can use it. Itachi had Susanoo, but he certainly didn't use it in the way that Sasuke did. And I don't think that he could have. :|

Just my opinion though, I find it hard to believe that Kishi would mean something so obvious. =/
 
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@ Caliburn and Valkyria: I see what you guys are saying. But really, that's gotta be the dumbest thing Kishi's ever done. I don't think Kishi would say something like that just to get at something obvious, especially considering all of the drama that went with it.



Exactly, which leads to my opinion that he has the EMS. The way I see it, every MS has had three points. Itach's first one looked like a three sided shuriken, Kakashi's has three points, Madara's has the three bars, and Izuna's had the three circles (or it could be vice versa with Izuna and Madra, not quite sure). But notice that when Madara got his EMS it had three points (Izuna's three circles and his three bars) and so does Sasuke's, they both have three points. So by double mangekyou, can he mean that only those with with second stage of the MS which seems to double the amount of tomoes in each eyes can use it. Itachi had Susanoo, but he certainly didn't use it in the way that Sasuke did. And I don't think that he could have. :|

Just my opinion though, I find it hard to believe that Kishi would mean something so obvious. =/
I SO TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!(no caps xD) lol that was so my opinion as well kishi woundt bother saying that in the final page of that chapter just when the biggest baddest sussano has appeared
 

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He can't have EMS yet since he's repeatedly shown to already be effected by overusing the MS and that's suppose to be one of the main benefits of the EMS.
Itachi's version of Susanoo was the complete version so I don't know why he'd use it like Sasuke has. Kishi's saving the moment where Sasuke will succumb to the pressure of needing Itachi's eyes to unlock EMS and become more stronger.
 

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He can't have EMS yet since he's repeatedly shown to already be effected by overusing the MS and that's suppose to be one of the main benefits of the EMS.
Itachi's version of Susanoo was the complete version so I don't know why he'd use it like Sasuke has. Kishi's saving the moment where Sasuke will succumb to the pressure of needing Itachi's eyes to unlock EMS and become more stronger.
The pain could be because of him simply not being in control of the EMS. Think of it, when Madara was talking to Sasuke after the fight with Itachi, Madara said that Itachi transplanted his powers into Sasuke thus activating Sasuke's MS. Sasuke's mangekyou activated when Itachi transplanted his into Sasuke according to Madara, and since Itachi transplanted his powers to Sasuke, Sasuke has Itachi's MS as well. And from Madara and Izuna we know that MS + MS = EMS. :| It has only been clarified that the EMS stops you from losing your eyesight, but it has not been said that someone as inexperienced with it as Sausuke was and still partially is will not feel draw backs while using it.
 

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by the way if u remember the first MS shown in sasuke's eyes were itachis eyes using the amatesaru i know he PLANTED the amatesaru in him what makes it harder to implant his MS as well as seen sasuke using it along with itachis amatesaru and afterwards sasuke activated his own MS and probably even EMS
 

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The pain could be because of him simply not being in control of the EMS. Think of it, when Madara was talking to Sasuke after the fight with Itachi, Madara said that Itachi transplanted his powers into Sasuke thus activating Sasuke's MS. Sasuke's mangekyou activated when Itachi transplanted his into Sasuke according to Madara, and since Itachi transplanted his powers to Sasuke, Sasuke has Itachi's MS as well. And from Madara and Izuna we know that MS + MS = EMS. :| It has only been clarified that the EMS stops you from losing your eyesight, but it has not been said that someone as inexperienced with it as Sausuke was and still partially is will not feel draw backs while using it.
Since Madara knew all this then he wouldn't have tried to push Itachi's eyes onto Sasuke to unlock EMS since your saying he would have it already. The thing with Sasuke clutching his eyes looks like foreshadowing to me that his eyesight is deteriorating at a faster rate then Itachi's and would need to make a choice soon to use Itachi's eyes or not. But the line with Sasuke's saying that he has double ms/ two awakened ms just means what he's obviously stating. Kishi would've made it clear and Sasuke would've boast about it already.
 

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hey people well here it is i was just surfing throw the sasuke raikage fight and i saw this


he says the double mangekyu? he only posseses one and the other one must be itachis but look here


he sais that he wont transplant them into him
wtf is going on? does he or does he not have itachis eyes as well?
sorry to lazy to actually make them in IMG type

By double mangekyo, he is referring to both his left mangekyo eye and his right mangekyo eye. We know that Tsukuyomi is used with one eye and amaterazu is used with another. Susanoo is used with both. We know that three eye techniques are awoken within the regular Uchiha with the mangekyo sharingan. I hope that this explains things. I am sorry that I am too lazy to post the chapter. I will if I have to though.
 
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