Sasuke don't dizerve free rikudo power ups from hagoromo

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Though, everyone knows if Sasuke worked hard at EVERY single stage of his power ups he would make us forget Naruto the main character. Just like the time skip, Sasuke overshadowed Naruto big time and he came back beastly. Inb4 I get dislikes. XD
 

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Though, everyone knows if Sasuke worked hard at EVERY single stage of his power ups he would make us forget Naruto the main character. Just like the time skip, Sasuke overshadowed Naruto big time and he came back beastly. Inb4 I get dislikes. XD

i dont give you dilsikes...i'll just give you a like for counterargument me with respect...i respect members like you
 

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Itachi place some of his chakra within Sasuke for a one time use against Tobi which would ONLY activate upon seeing Tobi's Sharingan. And notice how Sasuke's eye turned into Itachi's MS, then every other time Sasuke used Amaterasu It was from his own MS.

Itachi implanting Amaterasu within Sasuke was like Obito giving his chakra to Kakashi, it was temporary since they don't have unlimited chakra.

And your comment is very counterproductive as a Naruto fan, considering Minato gave Naruto the Kyuubi...his main source of power.



They skipped over a bunch of stuff. They, aswell as you are thinking about power ups. MS,EMS, Rinnegan.

Was Sasuke handed the tomoe Sharingan? Was he handed mastery of Fire Style, and Lightning Style? Was he handed Taijutsu? Swordsmenship? He obviously had to work hard in order to have it.

Do you really think sasuke only got amerterasu from itachi? He also got ms and ems. And your explanation regarding amerterasu is stupid.
 

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Sasuke's power ups,and training explained.

-He had the best grades in class,skilled in every area

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-At 7/8,Sasuke mastered Fire Style Jutsu on his own

-Graduated at the top of his class
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-At 12 he was able to hold his own against Kakashi,he showed good speed,Taijutsu,Ninja tool usage,strategy,and Ninjutsu - Kakashi was surprised that a Genin even had enough chakra to use Fire Style - Sasuke did at 7/8.

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-At 12/13,Sasuke started using his 2nd Nature Element,lightning Style,and developed it enough to master the Chidori + Lee's High Speed Taijutsu 2 weeks,whereas it took Lee years to attain it.While dealing with the CM,which restricted him.

I say 2 weeks because they had a month to prepare for the finals,and at the beginning of chapter 93,it says,"15 days since the start of training"

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And later in the chapter we see Sasuke meeting up with Kakashi,and Kakashi says,"So...you're finally here."Thus implying Sasuke had shown up for training with their being only 15 days left.

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By 13 Sasuke had learned two nature elements,this especially impressive considering Kakashi said it usually takes years to learn one.

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-By 16 Sasuke mastered the Sharingan

-Mastered the CM which negatively effected him untl he gain perfect control of it

-Mastered lightning style

-Created his own Jutsu,Kirin,which is the strongest Lightning technique that literally uses lightning rather than just changes chakra into it.

-Had great Ninja tool usage

-Great Swordsmenship

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-Mastered Genjutsu

-Mastered Lightning Shape Manipulation

Even using Shape Manipulation which Orochimaru had never seen before.

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All this was before he had MS.Sasuke is the best in his Generation,and one of the best Shinobi in the world even before he awakened MS.

Power ups

Sasuke awakened the Sharingan during the Uchiha massacre,after that he awakened each tomoe in battle,and mastered it through training.

-1 tomoe in each eye
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-Against Haku

2nd tomoe in one eye,

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-Against Lee

2nd tomoe in other eye

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-Against Naruto

Both 3rd tomoe in both eye
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-Curse Mark Stage 1 & 2
Fought Orochimaru one one one - Earned Orochimaru's respect - Recieved CM

Sasuke holding his own against Orochimaru
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And setting his face on fire

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-The CM Negatively effecting him.

He had to survive it.
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Dosu was shocked that Sasuke was even able to get up from it.

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He had to overcome it,and it took away from his own power.He could barely use his chakra and Sharingan cause the CM would start to take over.

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Right before the match in the prelimenaries,the CM got in his way.Sakura knew it was bad and wanted him to quit,but Sasuke never gave up,despite his disadvantage.

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Anko who had the same CM Sasuke has for YEARS said this.
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Sasuke couldn't use his Sharingan during the match or even chakra.

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Even Orochimaru thought he wouldn't win.

Sasuke beat the CM from willpower alone,surprising Kakashi,Anko - who had the same CM for YEARS which still cause her trouble and Orochimaru, the man who gave him the CM.

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Sasuke told Sakura not to tell Naruto about the CM,cause he knew Naruto would worry about him.

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Kakashi made sure to seal it ASAP.

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Relies on the strength of his will.

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In yet another life and death battle the CM gets in the way.

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Here's what experienced CM users have to say about it.

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-CM Stage 2

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CM Stage 2 still negatively effected Sasuke alot.

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Used it for a few seconds,felt intense pain,and coughed up blood.

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Through training Sasuke mastered the CM.He was able to use it perfectly without any negative side effects.Orochimaru himself even said Sasuke made it his own power.

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-Mangekyo Sharingan

Fought Itachi to the piont where he passed out from exhaustion and awakened it from learning/accepting the truth about Itachi - losing the person he was the closest too.

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-EMS

Gets Itachi's eyes transplanted,rest for a few days.Wakes up - immediately starts training to learn how to use it.

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Even before he even takes the badages off and opens his eyes - damn!

"Shall we test it outside" - Then we don't see Sasuke for 16 full chapters then after that,what do we see?

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We see Sasuke was clearly outside training.

Then he runs into a group of White Zetsu,activates the EMS and practices it through battle.

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Also take note of the fact that EMS is an upgrade of MS,which Sasuke had experience with.

-Rinnegan - Again,learned how to use it in battle,same as MS,and EMS.

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Recap of Sasuke's power ups.

He awakened his 1-3 Tomoe Sharingan stages through battle expeirience,and earned the CM from Orochimaru.

-1 tomoe against Itachi
-2/1 tomoe against Haku
-2 tomoe against Lee
-3 tomoe against Naruto

Then Mastered the Sharingan and CM.Then with MS-Current,he learned how to use his power/techniques near fully through battle,with only training with EMS outside before going into the War.

MS - Amaterasu through the KB fight.Susano'o through the Kage Summit Arc,especially during the Danzo fight.

EMS - tested it out/learned how to use it from using it on Zetsu in the hideout,trained outside,tested it out/learned how to use it on a group of Zetsu then through his battles against Kabuto,Obito,and Madara.

Rinnegan - Teleportation Technique through the battles against Madara and Kaguya,and he clearly got a great understanding of CT from sealing Kaguya,hence using it on the Bijuu.

Futhermore,Kagutsuchi is shape manipulation,Sasuke has Fire manipulation on top of Lightning manipulation.

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Also,during the War,in battle Sasuke was able to adapt his Amaterasu too Naruto's Rasengan in seconds while running,for the first time without ever having used a Rasengan before.

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Sasuke also added in Enton to his Chidori.

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This is especially impressive considering how Kakashi said it normally takes years to learn one element.


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Yet above Sasuke combined two easily at 17.

All of Sasuke's different Fire style,Lightning style,and Enton techniques are a result of different shape manipulations.It took training in order to have such high level Shape Manipulation.

/Thread. Thats all folks.
 

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True. Naruto would've gotten everything if not from previous butthurt Indra exp.

Naruto has no indivual capabilities all are freebies and dependants. And no he wouldn't have gotten rinnegan well because he is fodder and such power does not go to 1 like that.
 

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none of them deserved it . Only Madara deserve his powers since he actually had to fight for them.
 
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Naruto has no indivual capabilities all are freebies and dependants. And no he wouldn't have gotten rinnegan well because he is fodder and such power does not go to 1 like that.

I can already tell that you're an astoundingly intelligent individual so I won't bother listing off Naruto's achievements.
 

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damn mina, get off sasukes d so demonic can have some ;D
 

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Do you really think sasuke only got amerterasu from itachi? He also got ms and ems. And your explanation regarding amerterasu is stupid.

My comment was against Itachi giving Sasuke a permanent Amaterasu...

As i said, itachi placed a one time use of Amaterasu in Sasuke which could only activate upon seeing Tobi's Sharingan. That was made clear by Tobi himself...

My explanation was fine. Itachi didn't give Sasuke EMS, although he wanted Sasuke to attain it, which Sasuke of his own free will did.

Don't forget the bad condition Itachi's eyes were in when he died. They became good again from being within Sasuke's body.

/Thread. Thats all folks.

Yeah, the Minamoto decided to skip it, lol.
 
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Itachi placed a one time use of Amaterasu in Sasuke which could only activate upon seeing Tobi's Sharingan. That was made clear by Tobi himself...

My explanation was fine. Itachi didn't give Sasuke EMS, although he wanted Sasuke to attain it, which Sasuke of his own free will did.

Don't forget the bad condition Itachi's eyes were in when he died. They became good again from being within Sasuke's body.

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You are confirmed troll.

Please show me a scan in which obito/sasuke/itachi said that itachi planted amerterasu only for one time use? Grow up
 

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So much butthurt in one post. People shouldnt even take you serious when it comes to serious debates

OT: Also OP Stop making threads, Sasuke trained with each power up he got. From curse mark to so6p power up. I can go more in depth if you still want to deny.

-Went to orochimaru to gain greater control over curse mark.
-When he got his ms he fought the kages to improve his ms abilities & test out his susanoo.
-When he got ems he trained on fodder zetsu in the cave & took down a small zetsu army with one shot.
-Fighting madara &kaguya was basically training with his rinnegan as he had only had it for about an hour before he fought naruto, he was still getting used to it as he stated himself.

Also do you think he gained great swordsmanship over night? Think he just had automatic mastery over his lightening style & fire style? Please this is just a hate thread to downplay sasuke & praise naruto.
You just mad cuz OP is right
 

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I agree with you on that one Minamoto-san. I like Sasuke but the things he did is not worth the blessing of the Sage. But it's also the reason why the Sage didn't given him senjutsu and just a Rinnegan.
From what i've seen in the JJ Madara fight is Naruto was on blitz against Madara while Sasuke was worried about clones that Naruto was handling without visual. The power ups were too far apart. Naruto is Rikudou now and Sasuke just got a 6T Rinnegan with no abilities to harm a JJ.

His power up may have been for nothing but he got screwed still with that power up because all the paths that come with the Rinnegan we haven't seen him use. This is why to me Sasukes fans give him abilties he doesn't have because of the feats that we've seen the Rinnegan do. It's really worth the debt without bashing.
 
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