Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

[Nicholas Uchiha]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

Sasuke with Rinnegan vs Naruto with Full Nine Tailed Fox will be an awesome fight if it were to occur though.

 

[Murasame]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

I lol'd at SM Naruto being equal to EMS Sasuke.

 

[Hebi Sasuke]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

Sasuke's PS feats are incredibly scarce. While BM Naruto has multiple. I doub't PS could handle Tbb Barrages or multiple chakra arms and shadow clones.



Sasuke's resolve is strong but it's inconsistent. He's changed his resolve over the course of the Manga multiple times. Where as Naruto has stuck to one main goal, become Hokage and after the Pain Arc, break the cycle of hatred and endure.

Not only that, it's different, the entire Ninja Alliance is looking for Naruto to be the Hero, save the world, and protect everyone, he even said he wouldn't let anyone die.




Fear doesn't equal strength, you should know that by now. Uzumaki chakra is warm and bright by Nature, yet it's unique and powerful all the same.

Sasuke's chakra is not better than what the Kurama cloak. What you're telling me is that if Sasuke could give out his chakra, it would be on par, if not better than the Kurama cloak.

Sasuke's chakra can flux between being what Karin described, to being sinister because of his Uchiha blood.

Plus, an enraged Naruto, with Kurama chakra or Kurama's chakra alone > Sasuke's "scary chakra"

Neji died.

 

[To Whatever]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

Neji died.

Yeah... Neji did die, that in itself nearly crushed Naruto's resolve.

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That was the 4th time someone took a fatal wound from him that he canremember.

The 1st being Iruka, the 2nd being Sasuke, and the 3rd being Hinata

 

[Hebi Sasuke]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

Yeah... Neji did die, that in itself nearly crushed Naruto's resolve.

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That was the 4th time someone took a fatal wound from him that he canremember.

The 1st being Iruka, the 2nd being Sasuke, and the 3rd being Hinata

And who he looked up to ? To get resolve back ? Sasuke...

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

SM equal to EMS Sasuke? Lol, fail thread.

 

[TheLastSensei]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

Interesting thread. I agree. TBM naruto can solo sasuke.

 

[TrollKing]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

Bsm naruto=ems sasuke.

Manga facts
1. naruto showing off a lot in Bsm
2. Sasuke just stood there chilling(featless)
3. Sasuke(even without feats) and nine tails are equally strong going against jubi obito as manga showed

 

[lelerskates]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

Laughing at those who Think SM > EMS sasuke

AHAHH!
Its been showed EMS is pretty much Close or even = To BSM nardo

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Except you're wrong because that's Juugo enhancing Sasuke with his senjutsu while Naruto is using his own power. You mad bro?

 

[Vapid]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

Don't worry, my friends. Kishi will use asspull no jutsu to even things out, I assure you

 

[AGoodBoy]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

See, the thing is, there's two types of logic;

- Kishimoto logic (which some of us follow)
- fanboy logic (which you apparently follow)

Kishi established from the start of part 2 that sasuke absolutely shits on the collective might of team 7 and even kakashi. He even put hebi sasuke up against 3 S-Class opponents, then MS sasuke against about 4 more. Yet, it amazes me that some people claim "Sm naruto defeats sasuke hur dur". The simple truth is, SM naruto would have problems against hebi sasuke, let alone MS sasuke.

Kishi then went on to Establish the frightening defence Susano'o is capable of to show us that SM naruto needs a massive powerup if he hopes to survive. Kishi shows that ribcage to V1 susano'o is capable of tanking lightning, liger bomb, enhanced fuuton, lava, combination attacks. What's the response to this by naruto fans? Oh... "sasuke's susano'o's featless, Rasengan breaks it".

Kishi then gave naruto some brief hope by giving him KCM. By that point, It was fairly safe to say KCM naruto had the upper hand against MS sasuke and sasuke was the one in need of a power up... Especially seeing as he was blind and all. So, what does Kishi do? He gives sasuke EMS with full enton manipulation. He can shoot enton magatamas, wield an enton sword and sustain a V4 susano'o casually with no effort. What was the response by naruto fans? Oh... "Rasenshuriken breaks that... Naruto just spams it and kills sasuke" even though a susano'o 2 tiers lower, and without the added defence of enton > fuuton could only be cut by a severely enhanced wind blade. What was their response then? Naruto's rasenshuriken has more cutting power just because.

After which, we know what came next. Naruto got BM, and Oh boy, the fans went crazy. "BM naruto >>>>>>>> EMS sasuke neg diff", "KCM naruto >>>> ems sasuke neg diff", "Sasuke's only chance is against SM naruto"

Tl;dr; Moral of the story, you'll believe what ever you want to believe. That's up to you, but Kishi has already portrayed EMS sasuke (no susano'o) as equivalent to KCM naruto, EMS sasuke with susano'o (as equivalent to BM naruto) and EMS sasuke using purely taijutsu as above SM naruto.

 

[TrollKing]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

See, the thing is, there's two types of logic;

- Kishimoto logic (which some of us follow)
- fanboy logic (which you apparently follow)

Kishi established from the start of part 2 that sasuke absolutely shits on the collective might of team 7 and even kakashi. He even put hebi sasuke up against 3 S-Class opponents, then MS sasuke against about 4 more. Yet, it amazes me that some people claim "Sm naruto defeats sasuke hur dur". The simple truth is, SM naruto would have problems against hebi sasuke, let alone MS sasuke.

Kishi then went on to Establish the frightening defence Susano'o is capable of to show us that SM naruto needs a massive powerup if he hopes to survive. Kishi shows that ribcage to V1 susano'o is capable of tanking lightning, liger bomb, enhanced fuuton, lava, combination attacks. What's the response to this by naruto fans? Oh... "sasuke's susano'o's featless, Rasengan breaks it".

Kishi then gave naruto some brief hope by giving him KCM. By that point, It was fairly safe to say KCM naruto had the upper hand against MS sasuke and sasuke was the one in need of a power up... Especially seeing as he was blind and all. So, what does Kishi do? He gives sasuke EMS with full enton manipulation. He can shoot enton magatamas, wield an enton sword and sustain a V4 susano'o casually with no effort. What was the response by naruto fans? Oh... "Rasenshuriken breaks that... Naruto just spams it and kills sasuke" even though a susano'tierower, and without the added defence of enton > fuuton could only be cut by a severely enhanced wind blade. What was their response then? Naruto's rasenshuriken has more cutting power just because.

After which, we know what came next. Naruto got BM, and Oh boy, the fans went crazy. "BM naruto >>>>>>>> EMS sasuke neg diff", "KCM naruto >>>> ems sasuke neg diff", "Sasuke's only chance is against SM naruto"

Tl;dr; Moral of the story, you'll believe what ever you want to believe. That's up to you, but Kishi has already portrayed EMS sasuke (no susano'o) as equivalent to KCM naruto, EMS sasuke with susano'o (as equivalent to BM naruto) and EMS sasuke using purely taijutsu as above SM naruto.

You hit right on the nail. What matter is how kishi portraited it to be and what he thinks even if it means illogical. And it has little to do with our logic or desire. As kishi trying to tell us that hard work can defeat any genius. Is that true? Only in manga. Reality doesn't apply. Itachi=nagato based on manga

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

has rasengan ever killed?

chidori is a kill move period. rasengan has a huge damage radius and is enough to knock out and break bone but it cant kill or at lease it has yet to do so

 

[Conspirator.]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

Rasengan has a lower amount of damage over a greater area-it's an "explosive attack"
Chidori has a high amount of damage over a very small area(a single point)-it's a piercing attack

 

[To Whatever]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

And who he looked up to ? To get resolve back ? Sasuke...

And hinata

 

[End of Days]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

Laughing at those who Think SM > EMS sasuke

AHAHH!
Its been showed EMS is pretty much Close or even = To BSM nardo

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this kind of logic is pretty stupid, just because they are fighting side by side does not mean they are equal

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Here kcm naruto and base sasuke were side by side, people started claiming that kcm naruto=sasuke without susanoo

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Two chapters later chapter sasuke had to activate susanoo and they were still shown side by side

 

[ZIMBO]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

agree with most of what you said...people forget that KCM Naruto was split into several clones. With their combined power in one body, who knows what they are capable of

 

[-immortal-]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

this kind of logic is pretty stupid, just because they are fighting side by side does not mean they are equal

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Here kcm naruto and base sasuke were side by side, people started claiming that kcm naruto=sasuke without susanoo

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Two chapters later chapter sasuke had to activate susanoo and they were still shown side by side

this is Also SHowing that they're where pretty equal

 

[iSpyder]

Re: Sasuke done pretty dirty by Kishimoto despite being Naruto's supposed "rival".

Rock Lee takes both of them out 5th Gate neg dif