Sasuke doesn't have tsukuyomi

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Sasuke cut through Raikage's lightning armor....invalid. Sasuke lightning is far stronger than Kakashi's, he just calls it chidori.
Sasuke is different.
His chidori.
His amaterasu.
His sharingan abilities (Itachi only was able to use amaterasu because he had Shisui's real eye, sasuke can use it in both and tskuyomi)
When Orochi said he didn't follow him like Kabuto.
Even now in this war.

Lol wut

Raikiri > Chidori... Not the other way around my friend XD
 

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actually the thing fans call BSM it's not really a new mode,it's just as you described it exactly,using the normal SM in conjunction with BM,which pretty much added nothing to BM except adding the use of some SM chakra to the jutsus.

Yo, nice one bro...

SM adds, and is not limited to adding:

- Speed
- Strength
- Reflexes
- Perception
- Frog Kata(idk how useful that is)
- Stronger Jutsu overall(rasenshuriken, odama rasengan)

Adds nothing though right :rolleyes:
 

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That is like saying Naruto doesnt have SBM just because he never said it was SBM but instead just called it "Sage Mode"(while using it in conjunction with Biju Mode)
Despite the fact that we all saw him using it unless you dont read the manga

there also more proof where that came from , so i won't continue , because you will get fodderized and i will get annoying against you , so... think whatever you like , proof = your words , anyway , about your BSM ? Lol dude , i only say one thing which is... "Kurama" , plus... if sasuke really had tsukuyomi , than why in the world did Cee not went to the bed after he suffered the "all mighty tsukuyomi" from uchiha sasuke? ITS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T HAVE ONE! NOW STFU AND STOP IT , OKAY? i'm done.
 

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no time manipulation in the genjutsu world=no tsukuyomi.
and anyone using the databook as proof that susanoo requires tsukuyomi, has to remember that in the same databook page it was stated susanoo is equipped with totsuka and yata.does madara or sasuke have these?no.
so the databook was only describing itachi's susanoo.(the only susanoo user that was back when the databook came out).

Not true about the time manipulation thing. Tsukuyomi can also be used to simply control someone like Itachi did with Kabuto in order to make Kabuto end the edo tensei (and yes Itachi did call it by the name tsukuyomi). You don't necessarily have to manipulate time.
 

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Not true about the time manipulation thing. Tsukuyomi can also be used to simply control someone like Itachi did with Kabuto in order to make Kabuto end the edo tensei (and yes Itachi did call it by the name tsukuyomi). You don't necessarily have to manipulate time.
Wrong the most itachis tsukuyomi could do on kabuto was that he said it himself "even my tsukuyomi can only go this far.."
 

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Yo, nice one bro...

SM adds, and is not limited to adding:

- Speed
- Strength
- Reflexes
- Perception
- Frog Kata(idk how useful that is)
- Stronger Jutsu overall(rasenshuriken, odama rasengan)

Adds nothing though right :rolleyes:

that's what naruto's usual SM does,but when he used it in conjunction with BM,it added nothing to BM.because the thing fans call BSM is not a really a mode that boosts BM status,it just adds SM feats to BM's,and that's all.it doesn't upgrade BM since this "BSM"=SM+BM and since SM<<<BM we can say it's almost equal.
i still have a theory on how naruto will mix kurama's yin+yang+an incredible amount of natural energy to obtain a true BSM that boosts all BM status(just like SM boosted all base naruto's power),but meh with kishi writing this manga this way i doubt it will happen.
 

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Not true about the time manipulation thing. Tsukuyomi can also be used to simply control someone like Itachi did with Kabuto in order to make Kabuto end the edo tensei (and yes Itachi did call it by the name tsukuyomi). You don't necessarily have to manipulate time.

ok,lets put that aside,was there ever a panel of sasuke's genjutsu described as tsukuyomi like everytime itachi used it it was stated clearly tsukuyomi and noted in the scans,but never sasuke.if you can find one panel where sasuke using a genjutsu and was described as tsukuyomi then you're right.
anyway i think kishi at the start was about to give sasuke all itachi's abilities,then he changed his mind,since it would be really awful if he just made him a copy of itachi.
 

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Wrong the most itachis tsukuyomi could do on kabuto was that he said it himself "even my tsukuyomi can only go this far.."

Please post a scan of this. I don't remember Itachi saying anything about his tsukuyomi being limited against Kabuto. Furthermore, Itachi also used tsukuyomi on Sasuke during their battle at the Uchiha hideout (and he also referred to this as tsukuyomi by name). He did not manipulate time/space, nor were there inverted colors until Sasuke broke the genjutsu. This serves as further proof that tsukuyomi can be used as a normal genjutsu if the user so desires. You do not need to manipulate time/space.
 

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Doesnt really matter
 

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ok,lets put that aside,was there ever a panel of sasuke's genjutsu described as tsukuyomi like everytime itachi used it it was stated clearly tsukuyomi and noted in the scans,but never sasuke.if you can find one panel where sasuke using a genjutsu and was described as tsukuyomi then you're right.
anyway i think kishi at the start was about to give sasuke all itachi's abilities,then he changed his mind,since it would be really awful if he just made him a copy of itachi.

I'm not actually saying that Sasuke has or doesn't have tsukuyomi. I am actually too tired from homework to debate that issue right now. I was strictly countering your statement about tsukuyomi requiring the time manipulation. That is all.
 

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no time manipulation in the genjutsu world=no tsukuyomi.
and anyone using the databook as proof that susanoo requires tsukuyomi, has to remember that in the same databook page it was stated susanoo is equipped with totsuka and yata.does madara or sasuke have these?no.
so the databook was only describing itachi's susanoo.(the only susanoo user that was back when the databook came out).

About time someone said this >__>
 

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Nobody mentioned he had
 
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