Sasuke (Chunin Exams) vs Kiba/Akamaru (Sasuke Rescue Arc)

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Sasuke:

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Location: Konoha Forest

Distance: 20 Meters

Intel: Basic

Intent: To Kill

Kiba:

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[KidGamer65]

Needless to say, Sasuke eats him alive.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Want to say Kiba, but Sasuke still wins low-medium difficulty. This Sasuke 2-shotted Temari, right?

Kiba's speed and destructive feats in this arc mean he could probably defeat Sasuke from the Forest of Death IMO, but definitely not one with chidori and Lee's speed.

 

[Prezilla]

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Sasuke virtually got shit stomped by Sakon. Others literally just whacked Sasuke back in the ring. When Sasuke uses his curse seal 1 then gets hit so hard he's barely looking anymore from Sakon using curse seal one. Kiba did better against this guy then Sasuke.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

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Sasuke virtually got shit stomped by Sakon. Others literally just whacked Sasuke back in the ring. When Sasuke uses his curse seal 1 then gets hit so hard he's barely looking anymore from Sakon using curse seal one. Kiba did better against this guy then Sasuke.

I looove bringing up this fight and how Sasuke got batted away but it is going into the A<B<C logic. If Sasuke had used Lee's speed then he probably could've gotten further in this scenario. If he approaches Kiba like he approached Sakon, yeah he'll lose...but him on his top game can rumble Kiba.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Want to say Kiba, but Sasuke still wins low-medium difficulty. This Sasuke 2-shotted Temari, right?

Kiba's speed and destructive feats in this arc mean he could probably defeat Sasuke from the Forest of Death IMO, but definitely not one with chidori and Lee's speed.

You're underestimating the difference in strength between CE and SRA, this Kiba would stomp forest of death Sasuke. SRA Kiba has the same speed stat as CE base Rock Lee, so his speed is in the same ballpark as this version of Sasuke. Obviously Sasuke also has the Sharingan, but Kiba also has his All Fours technique to boost his speed, reaction, and physical power.

As someone already mentioned, base Kiba had a better showing against Sakon/Ukon than Sasuke did, and that version of Sasuke should be stronger than the CE version who faced Gaara. If Akamaru lands his urine on Sasuke, 2 headed wolf ends it.

 

[FlyingRaijinLVL2]

I legitimately think Kiba can high diff it; this version of Kiba is a force to be reckoned with against Part 1 characters. He could use the same strategy he used against Sakon to piss on Sasuke, then the Two Headed Wolf rips him apart.

 

[Unorthodox]

You're underestimating the difference in strength between CE and SRA, this Kiba would stomp forest of death Sasuke. SRA Kiba has the same speed stat as CE base Rock Lee, so his speed is in the same ballpark as this version of Sasuke. Obviously Sasuke also has the Sharingan, but Kiba also has his All Fours technique to boost his speed, reaction, and physical power.

As someone already mentioned, base Kiba had a better showing against Sakon/Ukon than Sasuke did, and that version of Sasuke should be stronger than the CE version who faced Gaara. If Akamaru lands his urine on Sasuke, 2 headed wolf ends it.

Sasuke was fighting four opponents he could not just focus on Sakon like kiba did even if your referring to when they had a brief 1vs1 He still had a better showing.

How could this Sasuke be stronger than his CE2 self when he was in a coma for at least a month and now had just woken up he was not conditioned at all.

Sasuke wins he definitely faster than kiba sharingan pre-cog is enough. Katon >>>>>>> Fang over Fang or chidori.

 

[Hakke]

I'd say the one that didn't get shitstomped by Sakon.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Sasuke was fighting four opponents he could not just focus on Sakon like kiba did even if your referring to when they had a brief 1vs1 He still had a better showing.

How could this Sasuke be stronger than his CE2 self when he was in a coma for at least a month and now had just woken up he was not conditioned at all.

Sasuke wins he definitely faster than kiba sharingan pre-cog is enough. Katon >>>>>>> Fang over Fang or chidori.

No he didn't have a better showing 1vs1. Sakon/Ukon relied on each other completely and entered CM against base Kiba. It took way less effort to stop Sasuke.

Forgot he was in coma. Sasuke isn't faster because you say so, sorry bud. The DB gives SRA Kiba and CE Lee the same speed stat. The speed that Sasuke can't even keep up with forever. Sasuke has Sharingan, Kiba has 4 Legs technique to boost his abilities even further. Fang Wolf Fang>>>>CE2 Sasuke's whole existence.

 

[BLAZE]

4 vs 1 to justify how sasuke loses nice

 

[Red Slayer]

I'd say the one that didn't get shitstomped by Sakon.

both of em got shitstomped by Sakon xD

 

[Hakke]

both of em got shitstomped by Sakon xD

Actually, no. Not really. SRA Kiba pressured Sakon and Ukon into entering CM2 meanwhile a non serious base Sakon was able to defeat Sasuke pretty easily.

 

[KidGamer65]

You're underestimating the difference in strength between CE and SRA, this Kiba would stomp forest of death Sasuke. SRA Kiba has the same speed stat as CE base Rock Lee, so his speed is in the same ballpark as this version of Sasuke. Obviously Sasuke also has the Sharingan, but Kiba also has his All Fours technique to boost his speed, reaction, and physical power.

As someone already mentioned, base Kiba had a better showing against Sakon/Ukon than Sasuke did, and that version of Sasuke should be stronger than the CE version who faced Gaara. If Akamaru lands his urine on Sasuke, 2 headed wolf ends it.

No he didn't have a better showing 1vs1. Sakon/Ukon relied on each other completely and entered CM against base Kiba. It took way less effort to stop Sasuke.

Forgot he was in coma. Sasuke isn't faster because you say so, sorry bud. The DB gives SRA Kiba and CE Lee the same speed stat. The speed that Sasuke can't even keep up with forever. Sasuke has Sharingan, Kiba has 4 Legs technique to boost his abilities even further. Fang Wolf Fang>>>>CE2 Sasuke's whole existence.

Actually, no. Not really. SRA Kiba pressured Sakon and Ukon into entering CM2 meanwhile a non serious base Sakon was able to defeat Sasuke pretty easily.

Nope.

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Kiba was getting his ass beat by Sakon and Ukon in Base.

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And again in CM1. The only reasons they leveled up and used CM1, started fighting together, and used CM2 in that fight is to end Kiba as fast as possible. Kiba never once pressured them into entering CM1 or CM2. Kiba didn't even start pressuring them at all until him and Akamaru transformed.


And no Hakke. Kiba didn't pressure anyone into entering the second state. They entered the second state to finish the battle quickly.

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When he entered the second state Kiba was still getting his ass whooped. :lol Then we have the fact that Base Sasuke was defeated by Base Sakon, then Sasuke used CM and Sharingan and got knocked back to the ground. That wasn't even an extended fight so idk why people are using that as evidence here. What's even worse is that Sasuke can't even properly control the Curse Mark.

With that being said, Sasuke beats on him with moderate effort until Kiba decides to use dynamic marking. If he lands then Sasuke gets cut to bits. If Sasuke dodges the piss they fail and get killed. Sasuke more likely than not dodges it and ends Kiba with Chidori.

Oh yeah and DB giving Kiba and Lee the same stat doesn't make them the same speed nor does it even have to be that close based on what we know about stats and the feats behind said stats. Example: Kimimaro, Hebi Sasuke and Neji all share the same 4.5 yet Sasuke is fast enough to notice a clear difference between him and the other 2.

Sasuke is the same speed as Lee and has the Sharingan on top of that.

 

[KidGamer65]

Oh yeah, and he did use combination attacks against Base Sasuke.

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They both ask the same exact question after being blown back.

 

[SSStylish]

Sasuke wins. Lee's speed + precog in combination with katon and chidori is too much for Kiba. Why are you all acting as if Kiba beat Sakon when he was actually easely overpowered?

Btw this arc is pretty strange with powerlevels either way. How was a rusty Lee doing better against Kimi than a stronger version of the Naruto that beat Neji?

 

[KidGamer65]

Sasuke wins. Lee's speed + precog in combination with katon and chidori is too much for Kiba. Why are you all acting as if Kiba beat Sakon when he was actually easely overpowered?

Btw this arc is pretty strange with powerlevels either way. How was a rusty Lee doing better against Kimi than a stronger version of the Naruto that beat Neji?

Agreed. lmao. That and it was hand to hand.

Pretty sure Lee only did well against Kimi when he was using the Drunken Fist. Regular Lee got beaten pretty badly.

 

[Hakke]

both of em got shitstomped by Sakon xD

Well, after re watching the fight I guess you are right. lol

Nope.

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Kiba was getting his ass beat by Sakon and Ukon in Base.

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And again in CM1. The only reasons they leveled up and used CM1, started fighting together, and used CM2 in that fight is to end Kiba as fast as possible. Kiba never once pressured them into entering CM1 or CM2. Kiba didn't even start pressuring them at all until him and Akamaru transformed.


And no Hakke. Kiba didn't pressure anyone into entering the second state. They entered the second state to finish the battle quickly.

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I see.

When he entered the second state Kiba was still getting his ass whooped. :lol Then we have the fact that Base Sasuke was defeated by Base Sakon, then Sasuke used CM and Sharingan and got knocked back to the ground. That wasn't even an extended fight so idk why people are using that as evidence here. What's even worse is that Sasuke can't even properly control the Curse Mark.

Well, it is more likely that CM1 Sakon > CM1 CE Sasuke since Sasuke didn't have control over his CM and Sakon was non serious and reacted to his attack and knocked him down so casually. And I thought that Kiba pressured Sakon/Ukon into entering CM2 which is why I thought that Base Kiba > Base Sasuke.

With that being said, Sasuke beats on him with moderate effort until Kiba decides to use dynamic marking. If he lands then Sasuke gets cut to bits. If Sasuke dodges the piss they fail and get killed. Sasuke more likely than not dodges it and ends Kiba with Chidori.

Well, it depends on how will the battle start. If they start with Taijutsu then Kiba will likely do just like he did with Sakon/Ukon.

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If Sasuke start directly with Chidori then he will likely win.

Oh yeah and DB giving Kiba and Lee the same stat doesn't make them the same speed nor does it even have to be that close based on what we know about stats and the feats behind said stats. Example: Kimimaro, Hebi Sasuke and Neji all share the same 4.5 yet Sasuke is fast enough to notice a clear difference between him and the other 2.

Sasuke is the same speed as Lee and has the Sharingan on top of that.

Well, The DB state that Kiba speed is 4 while base Sasuke's speed is 3.5 so Idk, Gai did said that Sasuke has an equal speed to Lee w/o the weights but the the DB states came after Gai's statements so isn't Gai's statement outdated?

 

[KidGamer65]

Well, after re watching the fight I guess you are right. lol



I see.



Well, it is more likely that CM1 Sakon > CM1 CE Sasuke since Sasuke didn't have control over his CM and Sakon was non serious and reacted to his attack and knocked him down so casually. And I thought that Kiba pressured Sakon/Ukon into entering CM2 which is why I thought that Base Kiba > Base Sasuke.



Well, it depends on how will the battle start. If they start with Taijutsu then Kiba will likely do just like he did with Sakon/Ukon.

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If Sasuke start directly with Chidori then he will likely win.



Well, The DB state that Kiba speed is 4 while base Sasuke's speed is 3.5 so Idk, Gai did said that Sasuke has an equal speed to Lee w/o the weights but the the DB states came after Gai's statements so isn't Gai's statement outdated?

I agree that CM1 Sakon is stronger than CM1 Sasuke, but like I've shown he's also stronger than Kiba. It also doesn't matter how the battle starts. Sasuke will dodge the piss no matter what. Just look at the top right corner of the first scan. Kiba had to hold Sakon/Ukon in place before landing that. Kiba can't do that to Sasuke due to Chidori. He'd break free from said grip just how he broke free from Gaara's Sand when it tried to crush his arm.

The DB must not be accounting Lee's speed for Sasuke, because it's blatantly shown that they are the same speed (leaving zero room for doubt) and it's stated by both Lee and Gai that they are the same speed.

 

[Hakke]

I agree that CM1 Sakon is stronger than CM1 Sasuke, but like I've shown he's also stronger than Kiba. It also doesn't matter how the battle starts. Sasuke will dodge the piss no matter what. Just look at the top right corner of the first scan. Kiba had to hold Sakon/Ukon in place before landing that. Kiba can't do that to Sasuke due to Chidori. He'd break free from said grip just how he broke free from Gaara's Sand when it tried to crush his arm.

The DB must not be accounting Lee's speed for Sasuke, because it's blatantly shown that they are the same speed (leaving zero room for doubt) and it's stated by both Lee and Gai that they are the same speed.

Wait, Can Sasuke stream Chidori into his hand while Kiba is holding him? doesn't he need to perform hand seals?

And sorry, I don't remember when the underline happened. Can you post a scan?