Sasuke Can Use SM

[Liquid Snake]

False, reason Madara could control SM is because Indra had Rikudou Senjutsu which is a variant of SM chakra. Both Madara and Sasuke are naturally adept at controlling Senjutsu which is not the same as absorbing NE.

Both Madara and Sasuke are Indra transmigrants and Sasuke is proven to be more skill full than Madara, in addition he has Kabuto's DSM cells transplanted so he can definitely absorb and control SM without any difficulty.

It takes time to transplant cells kabuto healed sasuke didn't give him his DNA and madara had hashis cells implanted in his body that's why he used sm

 

[Liquid Snake]

I don't see Sasuke lacking physical strength and stamina, heck look at Team 7 vs Sasuke, Sasuke demolished them all easy in every area in speed, strength stamina, jutsu.

Naruto after that lose Naruto focused on developing Rasenshuriken, but that isn't training to increase his strength just invent a new powerful jutsu.

Naruto after that went to Sage Mode training.

To put it simple

Beginning Part 2 Sasuke > Naruto before Sage Mode training

If Naruto can learn sage mode while being weaker in everything than Sasuke, then nothing stopping Sasuke from learning Sage mode.

Lol the fanfic

 

[super michael]

Lol the fanfic

Post like your contributes nothing to the forum. Anyway incase you don't know what I am talking about, when Naruto and Sakura first time meeting up with Sasuke.

Is it fanfic that Sasuke beat Naruto, Sakura, Yamato and Sai? No.
Did Naruto do any training to increase his strenght, chakra, speed etc? No.

There is no prove that Naruto before Sage mode training > Sasuke.

Naruto was stated to surpass Sasuke after Naruto mastered Sage mode.

 

[Liquid Snake]

Sasuke has the potential to learn Sage Mode, I mean Naruto learned it while he was weaker than beginning Part 2 Sasuke.

Sasuke beat Team 7 easy, then the only training Naruto did was for Rasenshuriken nothing else, then Sage Mode.

Sasuke has the chakra and the body to handle Sage Mode.

Sasuke uses ameno once and his eye has to recharge he barely mastered the little bit of the cm where's this chakra u speak of and body?

 

[super michael]

Sasuke uses ameno once and his eye has to recharge he barely mastered the little bit of the cm where's this chakra u speak of and body?

I am using Naruto before Sage Mode training as a bench mark to being able to achieve Sage Mode. Sasuke seems to qualify this bench mark.

 

[Liquid Snake]

I am using Naruto before Sage Mode training as a bench mark to being able to achieve Sage Mode. Sasuke seems to qualify this bench mark.

A lot of ppl qualify then like all the kages kakashi was stronger then also so he can use sm to oh so can pain oh I forgot pain still couldn't control it despite being stronger then even sm naruto so ur logic is dumb kid just because u were stronger at one point doesn't mean u can master all their techs

 

[super michael]

Yea sasuke was stronger then the fanfic is u saying because sasuke was stronger then he can learn sm so that means anybody stronger than naruto at that time could have learned sm or that only applies to sasuke because ur a **** riding fanboy?

Hey don't insult, we debate not insult members.

Anybody stronger than Naruto Pre Sage mode training can achieve Sage Mode not just Sasuke.

You haven't stated why you believe that Naruto Pre Sage Mode training is stronger than Sasuke, while I given all prove why Sasuke is stronger than Pre Sage mode training Naruto.

 

[Berserker]

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Sasuke does not possess enormous amount of chakra like Naruto.
Also, he lacks physical stamina which is required to be able to control nature chakra

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Even Jiraya would turn a little into a frog because of it.

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Fail logic when you tried to say only Jiraya and Naruto can learn SM. Sasuke doesn't have physical stamina and enormous chakra? what a troll, where has Sasuke shown to have low chakra and low stamina. You must be referring to ITachi.

CM was a test to see if Sasuke was compatible with the senjutsu. If Sasukes body couldn't handle Senjutsu he would end up like the hundreds of other test subjects. Furthermore Oro wanted Sasukes body and planned to gain Dragon sage mode with it.

 

[super michael]

A lot of ppl qualify then like all the kages kakashi was stronger then also so he can use sm to oh so can pain oh I forgot pain still couldn't control it despite being stronger then even sm naruto so ur logic is dumb kid just because u were stronger at one point doesn't mean u can master all their techs

Interesting that is a good point, Pain absorbed Naruto Sage chakra and turned to Stone, that proves one thing, it requires training in Sage mode otherwise absorbing Sage chakra does negative effects like turn to statue.

But can we agree with training they can gain Sage mode if they are stronger than Pre Sage mode training Naruto?

 

[Liquid Snake]

Hey don't insult, we debate not insult members.

Anybody stronger than Naruto Pre Sage mode training can achieve Sage Mode not just Sasuke.

You haven't stated why you believe that Naruto Pre Sage Mode training is stronger than Sasuke, while I given all prove why Sasuke is stronger than Pre Sage mode training Naruto.

I never said pre sm naruto was stronger than sasuke and no not anybody could learn sm oro knows almost everything about senjutsu and still couldn't achieve it with hashis DNA and while training alongside jiraiya who could use sm and madara with half of hashi could only control so much sasuke does not have the chakra pool either to pull it off he was even surprised when he first seen naruto in sm and even more shocked at how much chakra naruto can control which speaks of its difficulty it's not something u can just do

 

[Liquid Snake]

Interesting that is a good point, Pain absorbed Naruto Sage chakra and turned to Stone, that proves one thing, it requires training in Sage mode otherwise absorbing Sage chakra does negative effects like turn to statue.

But can we agree with training they can gain Sage mode if they are stronger than Pre Sage mode training Naruto?

If sasuke had a bigger chakra pool then yes I believe he could learn it

 

[super michael]

I never said pre sm naruto was stronger than sasuke and no not anybody could learn sm oro knows almost everything about senjutsu and still couldn't achieve it with hashis DNA and while training alongside jiraiya who could use sm and madara with half of hashi could only control so much sasuke does not have the chakra pool either to pull it off he was even surprised when he first seen naruto in sm and even more shocked at how much chakra naruto can control which speaks of its difficulty it's not something u can just do

I thought I was on to something, nicely done you proved me wrong. I didn't think about Jiraiya and Orochimaru, even though they were trained by the sage master, Jiraiya couldn't perfect it, while Orochimaru couldn't achieve Sage mode.

As for Madara didn't he absorb all of Hashirama Sage Mode? It sounded like Madara was surprise that Hashirama Sage mode gives so little chakra increase but that is my opinion I have to check that page.

 

[Liquid Snake]

I thought I was on to something, nicely done you proved me wrong. I didn't think about Jiraiya and Orochimaru, even though they were trained by the sage master, Jiraiya couldn't perfect it, while Orochimaru couldn't achieve Sage mode.

As for Madara didn't he absorb all of Hashirama Sage Mode? It sounded like Madara was surprise that Hashirama Sage mode gives so little chakra increase but that is my opinion I have to check that page.

Madara didn't absorb all of hashi sm just enough for him to control

 

[Legendary Saiyan]

He has somewhat of Senjutsu but no SM. However, I wish he used that bird as SM or the Dragon thing Kabuto did. Looks raw.

 

[xxSAGExx]

it should be well known... but ofc its not.

this alone should prove that sasuke body can handle SM and he can use it/train for it or what ever

Orochimaru created Curse Mark in order to find a host to bare his SM.

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And with mastering the rinngenn he might be able to steal a SM as well. He Has already shown better feat then madara with his rinngenn

You said Sasuke can use SM, he can't. He has to go through the training. Having a strong body isn't a requirement for SM, Orochimaru was looking for a body that could replicate Juugo's clan ability in as Kabuto told Sasuke and Edo Itachi

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. Pa toad said you need a large chakra reserve and the guts to complete the training. Orochimaru created CM because he couldn't master SM. When Sasuke asked Kabuto if he was attacked by Orochimaru's CM, Kabuto said CM was a pretention trick which means it doesn't compare to SM

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Madara only had SM because he had Hashirama's Cells via Hashirama face. Sasuke does not have Naruto's cells via Naruto face. SM does not happen just because you have Senjutsu, you need to combine your chakra (physical energy and spiritual energy) with natural energy to create Senjutsu. Simply absorbing Senjutsu would give you your chakra and Senjutsu or the Senjutsu would turn to regular chakra depending on the type absorbing jutsu you use.

do me a fav and stay out my threads please.

CM was created by orochimaru in order to fine a host who can handle the power


Madara showed a feat of stealing SM from Hashi/ while in some type of pre- rinngenn form

Orochimaru made CM to experiment on Juugo's clan ability, he couldn't become a true sage like Kabuto and wanted to replicate juugo's clan ability which allows them to freely absorb natural energy. Orochimaru couldn't find a body that can replicate Juugo's clan ability but he found none. When I say replicate I'm talking about how Kabuto replicated Suigetsu water body, Karin's healing, the Sound 5 abilities, and Orochimaru's white snake ability.

Sasuke has the potential to learn Sage Mode, I mean Naruto learned it while he was weaker than beginning Part 2 Sasuke.

Sasuke beat Team 7 easy, then the only training Naruto did was for Rasenshuriken nothing else, then Sage Mode.

Sasuke has the chakra and the body to handle Sage Mode.

Learning SM isn't about how strong you are as a ninja; you need a large chakra reserve and the guts to complete the training as Pa toad stated to Naruto. It uses chakra control of course but it's in a way that is different than what a ninja is use to since it involves mixing an external energy with your internal energies to create a new and stronger form of chakra. First you must learn to mix natural energy with your chakra (physical and spiritual energies) which is really hard to do. You learn to see, sense, and absorb natural energy while training to mix the energies. Next step is the most difficult, learning to be completely still.

Nothing shows or implies that Sasuke can learn SM, he has the reserves now and has great chakra control but if he can't be completely still then he can't do it. There's a reason why skilled ninjas such as Jiraiya and Orochimaru couldn't become true Sages.

 

[Gein]

He can't that's just fanfiction. He can handle Orochimaru's chakra and Juugo's cells, because that's what Curse Mark is.

And what "better feat than Madara" did he show?

Always good stuff seeing CM compared to SM.

 

[Berner]

Fail logic when you tried to say only Jiraya and Naruto can learn SM. Sasuke doesn't have physical stamina and enormous chakra? what a troll, where has Sasuke shown to have low chakra and low stamina. You must be referring to ITachi.

CM was a test to see if Sasuke was compatible with the senjutsu. If Sasukes body couldn't handle Senjutsu he would end up like the hundreds of other test subjects. Furthermore Oro wanted Sasukes body and planned to gain Dragon sage mode with it.

lol im amazed how many people have denied this

 

[KesOnFire]

He can? I thought juugo helped him with that.

 

[Berner]

He has somewhat of Senjutsu but no SM. However, I wish he used that bird as SM or the Dragon thing Kabuto did. Looks raw.

i didnt say he had a sm i said his body is capable of using it which is why orochimaru wanted him to use DSM

DSM was stolen by kabuto

Kabuto also stole countless DNA in order to use DSM

but why bother..

He can? I thought juugo helped him with that.

dang i thought they permed u.

re read op and links

 

[KesOnFire]

i didnt say he had a sm i said his body is capable of using it which is why orochimaru wanted him to use DSM

DSM was stolen by kabuto

Kabuto also stole countless DNA in order to use DSM

but why bother..



dang i thought they permed u.

re read op and links

It won't happen to a tru fan. Reread what wiki?