Sasuke can still defeat any top tier without Susanoo

[Kyle storm]

- Speed that makes the ground crumbel and burn under his feet .

- Shunshin that destroys the landscapes when he moves .

- His Rinnegan Genjutsu is the second strongest Genjutsu in the manga . Right after the Mugen Tsukuyomi .

- His basic chidori in THE LAST had the destructive power of a super Biju-Dama .

- Six paths technique .

- His own chakra reserve + all of Rikudou Sennin's Yin Chakra .

- Preta paths .

- Multi Coreless chibaku Tensei at once .

- Amenotejikara hax , which anabled him to blitz opponets on Ten Tails Madara's level
* Sasuke told Naruto who was afew feets away from him to throw his Rasengan at him while he will take care of the rest , and then magically Madara popped right in between them , and that is haxed as hell cuz the majority of the universe are gonna be screwed when they find themselves in the same situation .
* And if speed is a problem Sasuke can just teleport others MID-STRIKE and they'll just popped up with a chidori right in the heart or the head , or cut off their heads with his sword .

So without Susanoo , Sasuke is still more than capable of beating characters like Hashirama , EMS Madara , BM Minato , Itachi , Nagato and everyone below or in between .
Pretty Awesome how Sasuke can still beat Top tiers withot using his full power isn't it ?

 

[Unorthodox]

Sasuke is still the strongest

 

[EZQ]

Sasuke is still the strongest

The strongest of the most ruined manga in history

Oh wait... just read Bleach's chapter

 

[Kyle storm]

Sasuke is still the strongest

Strong enough to beat any top tier like madara / hashirama / itachi / nagato / without using any stage of Susano'o

 

[TheSages456]

Sasuke would need Perfect Susano'o in order to defeat Nagato much less the shinobi above him.

 

[Kyle storm]

Sasuke would need Perfect Susano'o in order to defeat Nagato much less the shinobi above him.

Hmmmm ? sure about that ?

Take away Naruto , and replace JJ Madara with Nagato , EMS Madara or Hashirama :

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Should i remind you that Hashirama couldn't even react to Madara who got his back many time and shoved 6-8 black receivers in his skin ? That was Edo Madara by the way , who's far far slower , and less reactive than JJ Madara

Hmmmm , wonder what would Hashi or Nagato do if their necks appeared on the edge of Sasuke's blade after he teleports them MID STRIKE to the line of his attack

Hinte : they die horribly .......... !

 

[TheSages456]

Hmmmm ? sure about that ?

Take away Naruto , and replace JJ Madara with Nagato , EMS Madara or Hashirama :

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No, I'm going to use Sasuke's feats with the jutsu in 1v1 situations since that produces the most realistic simulation for 1v1 fights, not a fight where he has the breathing room to use the jutsu more flagrantly because of support.
The only way that he has ever used the jutsu in 1v1 fights is shifting himself into a favorable position because that is the most practical application of the jutsu 1v1.

Shin reacted to his Amenotejikara blindside by sacrificing his clone.
Nagato blows him away with Shinra Tensei, Madara simply activates Susano'o and Hashirama shoots out Mokuton from his back to counter.

Should i remind you that Hashirama couldn't even react to Madara who got his back many time and shoved 6-8 black receivers in his skin ? That was Edo Madara by the way , who's far far slower , and less reactive than JJ Madara

You need to learn the difference between someone not being capable of reacting and simply receiving damage during a fight. Hashirama & Madara were shown on multiple occasions to have equal prowess.

Naruto & Sasuke weren't blitzing each other over and over again during their final fight just because both received damage.

Hmmmm , wonder what would Hashi or Nagato do if their necks appeared on the edge of Sasuke's blade after he teleports them MID STRIKE to the line of his attack

Hinte : they die horribly .......... !

I wonder too, since it would never happen if they actually fought.

I'm not getting into some kind of extended "debate" here.
I've already seen enough to know that you don't listen to anything that's not blatantly biased towards your viewpoint.

 

[Kyle storm]

No, I'm going to use Sasuke's feats with the jutsu in 1v1 situations since that produces the most realistic simulation for 1v1 fights, not a fight where he has the breathing room to use the jutsu more flagrantly because of support.
The only way that he has ever used the jutsu in 1v1 fights is shifting himself into a favorable position because that is the most practical application of the jutsu 1v1.

Shin reacted to his Amenotejikara blindside by sacrificing his clone.
Nagato blows him away with Shinra Tensei, Madara simply activates Susano'o and Hashirama shoots out Mokuton from his back to counter.





You need to learn the difference between someone not being capable of reacting and simply receiving damage during a fight. Hashirama & Madara were shown on multiple occasions to have equal prowess.

Naruto & Sasuke weren't blitzing each other over and over again during their final fight just because both received damage.




I wonder too, since it would never happen if they actually fought.

I'm not getting into some kind of extended "debate" here.
I've already seen enough to know that you don't listen to anything that's not blatantly biased towards your viewpoint.

A - Translation : " i am going to pick only the things that fits my agenda " ...... Ok then .
Naruto had nothing to do with Sasuke's ability of shifting Madara in between them MID STRIKE , he was only there because BOTH of them were needed to performe the sealing thing AKA six paths chibaku tensei .
So , what if Sasuke used it only to shift himself not to shift others to his attack ? does that automaticly means that he won't use the second tactic in any fight ? i suppose no ?
Shin never reacted to Sasuke blind siding him , since Sasuke didn't use Ameno to blind side him to begin with , he used it to dodge his attack , and Sasuke wasn't even serious in the first place , all what he wanted to do is to take informations and he also had kids to protect , the second time he fodderized Shin easily

Anyway , his feats against Fused Momoshiki confirmed that he was gimped , and we all saw what he can do when he went full power in Boruto movie against fused Momoshiki .

Unless of course you think Shin is >>> JJ Madara in reaction speed ???
Madara not only got blitzed once , but twice , the second time when he rushed at Sasuke to take his eye , only to get a Sword shoved in his body lol
He even had to run away lol

B - Errr , I don't think that those black receivers got to Hashirama's back by themselves , and Hashirama won't let Madara hit him with it anyway , so Madara must've got Hashirama many times from his back , without hashi being able to react
What is Hashirama's best reacting feats anyway ? All what i remember is his fans giving him Madara's feats !

C - Indeed , there's nothing to discuss here
Genjutsu that impressed Hagoromo himself and was stated that it reached unparallelled level
Multi Coreless Chibaku Tense
Shunshin that destroys and burns the ground under his feets
And A space time technique that even Naruto , Kaguya and Madara had problems with .
And a Chidori that can destroy a meteor in base

Yeah , there's nothing to discuss really when feats , manga , logic are at my side .

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Same goes for RSM Naruto and Kurama avatar or JJ Madara/Obito and Susanoo.

They are all Rikudo charachters so they can beat any other non rikudo charachter except 8 gates Gai.

 

[Kyle storm]

The funny thing is this :

Sasuke used only Amenotejikara twice , chidori once , and that was enough for JJ Madara to run away and get his other Rinnegan knowing that he would get stomp if he stay .

 

[Mellow]

Well he is the strongest

 

[Eng nawashi]

He only has a chance to blitz them right from the beginning by his space time jutsu provided that the starting distance is within his range and no Intel on his jutsu .but he is nowhere near top shinobi level of power without susano .it is quite similar to how 1 MS Kakashi can properly snipe top tier shinobi right off the beginning but he gets stomped by their full power speaking about vote Madara and Hashirama .lol he even loses to EMS Sasuke and BM Naruto if they start in their avatars .

 

[Megax Rocker7]

Sasuke traps them in core less CT and moves them around and plays billiards with all of them at the same time.