Sasuke being manipulated by Tobi

[Bigfoot34501]

Alright so I was reading one of our many lovely threads about Sasuke (sarcasm intended) and came across a post about how Sasuke is being completely illogical joining Akatsuki and blindly following Tobi's orders.

Now it's pretty obvious Sasuke's behavior has taken a turn for the worst ever since Tobi talked to him. Even Suigetsu and Karin noticed how evil he has become.

Now here's what I'm thinking, Ao noted that the Fourth Mizukage was being manipulated using Shisui's genjutsu (presumably Kotoamatsukami)

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And we all know Tobi was the one that really was controlling the Fourth Mizukage because Kisame identified him and met him before

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Now ignore the fact that both of Shisui's eyes were not in Tobi's possession for a second, lets say Tobi does have Kotoamatsukami for some reason. Now what if Tobi felt like he wouldn't be able to manipulate Sasuke with words because he didn't trust him. What if Tobi used Kotoamatsukami on Sasuke and embedded the command for Sasuke to kill Danzo, the elders, and all of Konoha. What if he also ordered Sasuke to follow his every order?

This would explain Sasuke's negative change in behavior. If he is under Kotoamatsukami there's no way Naruto's talk no jutsu will ever affect him. Of course Tobi just might be that good at Talk no justu himself.

So the question is there a possibility that Tobi using Kotoamatsukami to make Sasuke do everything Tobi wants? Or is Sasuke just that easy to fall for Tobi's talk no jutsu?

EDIT: More proof that Tobi has Kotoamatsukami:

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[bartel]

tobi has a genjutsu stronger than kotoamatsukami and sasuke is using tobi

 

[ostap98]

it's possible but then why did sasuke rape one of tobi zetsus

 

[Erzo]

Sasuke is just that easy to manipulate.

 

[Bigfoot34501]

Sasuke is just that easy to manipulate.

Probably, it's just a thought I had considering its hinted that Tobi has Kotoamatsukami

 

[bestevawuz]

tobi has a genjutsu stronger than kotoamatsukami and sasuke is using tobi

orly and what might that be?

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

He's doing the same thing he did to negato...

Setup all kind of shit to fuel their hate
Looks out for him to gain his trust
Shows them they have a common goal

(my theory) Once they're powerful enough to beat him maybe kotoasukami command destroy kohona.

(my theory) Sasuke has more control over his actions than negato and still plans to kill tobi. We know sasuke sets goals and sticks to um even if takes years

 

[MissShakra]

what if danzou put the elders under that same jutsu to manipulate his way into hokage? just a thought...i could see that being very likely..i find it hard to believe that sasuke has really gone that crazy..but then again that wouldnt surprise me either...

 

[Owarij]

Tobi doesnt have ka , he wanted it badly.....

He used a unknown mid/high level genjutsu to take control over the mizukage , Itachi used something like it also to take control of a woman in part 1, although shikkaku and ao stated itachi can control his victims from a far far range outside that of sensors, tobi had to be relatively near the mizukage.....

 

[AOS]

He's doing the same thing he did to negato...

Setup all kind of shit to fuel their hate
Looks out for him to gain his trust
Shows them they have a common goal

(my theory) Once they're powerful enough to beat him maybe kotoasukami command destroy kohona.

(my theory) Sasuke has more control over his actions than negato and still plans to kill tobi. We know sasuke sets goals and sticks to um even if takes years

Well you could be right, but i like this new idea better. Something new that i havnt seen...

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

He's doing the same thing he did to negato...

Setup all kind of shit to fuel their hate
Looks out for him to gain his trust
Shows them they have a common goal

(my theory) Once they're powerful enough to beat him maybe kotoasukami command destroy kohona.

(my theory) Sasuke has more control over his actions than negato and still plans to kill tobi. We know sasuke sets goals and sticks to um even if takes years

This could be highly likely as that's typically how Sasuke works..I'm looking forward to unexpected events

 

[Bigfoot34501]

Tobi doesnt have ka , he wanted it badly.....

He used a unknown mid/high level genjutsu to take control over the mizukage , Itachi used something like it also to take control of a woman in part 1, although shikkaku and ao stated itachi can control his victims from a far far range outside that of sensors, tobi had to be relatively near the mizukage.....

Idk about that. I think Ao was about to say it was the genjutsu that was used on the 4th Mizukage, but he was cut off. And Mei clearly said the two techniques were related to each other in the degree of control on a person. That degree of control is unique to Kotoamatsukami

 

[YoItsJo]

"Sasuke's heart is still a blank canvas. The right person could paint it any color he wanted." - Uchiha Itachi.

While your theory may be possible and somewhat plausible, you have to remember Sasuke has a tendency to easily be influenced and allows others to point him in the direction they want him to go. First Itachi and now Tobi. I don't think he really listens to Tobi, but he has corrupted him, surely. Sasuke is just easily influenced. He's probably planning to kill him, but Tobi has still influenced him and his actions.

 

[iSpeak]

Alright so I was reading one of our many lovely threads about Sasuke (sarcasm intended) and came across a post about how Sasuke is being completely illogical joining Akatsuki and blindly following Tobi's orders.

Now it's pretty obvious Sasuke's behavior has taken a turn for the worst ever since Tobi talked to him. Even Suigetsu and Karin noticed how evil he has become.

Now here's what I'm thinking, Ao noted that the Fourth Mizukage was being manipulated using Shisui's genjutsu (presumably Kotoamatsukami)

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And we all know Tobi was the one that really was controlling the Fourth Mizukage because Kisame identified him and met him before

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Now ignore the fact that both of Shisui's eyes were not in Tobi's possession for a second, lets say Tobi does have Kotoamatsukami for some reason. Now what if Tobi felt like he wouldn't be able to manipulate Sasuke with words because he didn't trust him. What if Tobi used Kotoamatsukami on Sasuke and embedded the command for Sasuke to kill Danzo, the elders, and all of Konoha. What if he also ordered Sasuke to follow his every order?

This would explain Sasuke's negative change in behavior. If he is under Kotoamatsukami there's no way Naruto's talk no jutsu will ever affect him. Of course Tobi just might be that good at Talk no justu himself.

So the question is there a possibility that Tobi using Kotoamatsukami to make Sasuke do everything Tobi wants? Or is Sasuke just that easy to fall for Tobi's talk no jutsu?

EDIT: More proof that Tobi has Kotoamatsukami:

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Nice thread, I think it is a good theory. + Rep
There is one problem though. We know that Tobi has Senju cells (since he is able to use Izanagi), and we know that senju cells speed up the time taken to use Koto (to where you can use it around 2-3 times a day). Which would mean Tobi has the same rest time on his Koto as Danzo has. If this was true, he should have caused much more havok with it. But then again, Danzo didn't really do much with his Koto either.

 

[Noble Armada]

Sasuke is just that easy to manipulate.

This.

Tobi is redirecting Sasuke's intense hatred, which was originally directed at Itachi, to something that suits his own goals.

 

[Bigfoot34501]

Nice thread, I think it is a good theory. + Rep
There is one problem though. We know that Tobi has Senju cells (since he is able to use Izanagi), and we know that senju cells speed up the time taken to use Koto (to where you can use it around 2-3 times a day). Which would mean Tobi has the same rest time on his Koto as Danzo has. If this was true, he should have caused much more havok with it. But then again, Danzo didn't really do much with his Koto either.

Honestly even if he doesn't have Koto he's already caused a s***load of havok. Koto just might explain how he so easily manipulates and controls people and the tailed beasts